Annunaki:


] Thankfully as a christian I don't subscribe to the trinity doctrine which is a catholic invention that has no basis in true christian faith..

truthman2012:
What is going on here ? Can two different faiths come from the same God ? I am seriously astonished to learn of this:
“The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.” (Catholic Catechism, page 841
So by Catholic belief, islam is also from their God. Surprise, surprise !!!

truthman2012:

It is because they are idol worshipers that they are supporting the muslims their co-idol worshipers, birds of the same feathers.
www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam

parisbookaddict:

i am a catholic and very open minded

Drinkwater06:
ANNUNAKI'S view on Catholic and Trinity.


https://www.nairaland.com/3086804/annunaki-read-old-testament#45332404

We should note that both truthman2012 and parisbookaddict subscribe to Trinity which makes them a false Christian according to annunaki.

Truthman2012 and parisbookaddict both believe those who don't believe in the Trinity concept of God are false Christian and are going to hell, unless they want to state otherwise here.

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TRUTHMAN2012 VIEW ON CATHOLICISM

Truth man have once said how the same satan that engineered the emergence of Catholics was also responsible for Islam.

In a nutshell, he sees Catholics as devil worshipping non Christians.

https://www.nairaland.com/3095303/catholic-fraternity-islam

He later said they are idol worshippers:


Other popular Christian sites don't see Catholics as Christians https://carm.org/is-catholicism-christian
https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

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unfortunately, her royal Majesty ifeann a.k.a parisbookaddict claims to be a Catholic


Although she once claimed not to be a Catholic, but she's finally come out open to say the truth...

But then according to truthman, she is Ian idol worshipper. Other Christians don't see her as a Christian

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In a nutshell, 2 of the above 3 guys are confused, the question then Is who and who?

parisbookaddict:

[s]Trying to get me upset with my good friends a.nnunaki and truthman.
I respect their rights to have their opinions.

By the way U dont need to call me her royal Majesty. Parisbookaddict or ifeann is fine..apparently u are not a regular in the religion section, people who follow my comments here know i am a catholic. I am of the view all christians are one as long as ur follow biblical requirements set by christ our lord.


2. The devil/allah is working hard sowing discord amongst christians. I dont care if annuki or other christians believe the trinity or not. If u deny that jesus is the christ, son of God and God and deny the father and the son then u are the anti thesis of a christian. If u dont follow the teachings of christ, accept him in ur life, get baptised and love ur neighbour as ur self etc then u have a long way to go before calling ur self a christian.

3. I have read that paragraph of the catechism and it is very at first disturbing . until i saw a commentary given by a catholic scholar. Now lets breakdown that statement.
The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

Yes we have a creator, one being , a diety whom has a plan of salvation for all mankind be them jew, muslim, buddist, hindu

in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;

This is the place i have an issue with this statement.. the frist place amongst them is the jews who believe in one absolute God, the christian who believe in one God comprising of the father, son and spirit.
Then believe it or not, the muslims who believe in one god living above the kabab in mecca..

The problem again with this statement is that muslims believe in an old pagan diety who had 3 daughters now known as allah..

Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt know islam well .

these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.

Yes all these faiths profess to hold the faith of abraham.. but muslims do not worship the God of Abraham..

Jehova is not allah..



In no text in judaism is it taught that;
1. You need to pray so demons dont get u in the toilet
2. Shaytan climbs in to ur nostrils in the night
3. U can clean ur butt with stones and
4. U can beat women
5. U should colect jizyah from non believers
6. U can rape women
7. U can marry your sons wife like mohammed did
8. U can rob people
9. U can perform nitah mutah
10. That jinns /invisible people exists to torment u.
Etc the list goes on and on


Yes i am catholic a proud one.. proud of the crusades that saved europe and liberated Jerusalem and spain,

proud of the countless catholic missionary schools,

proud of the countless catholic hospitals and charity organisations which take care of even muslims.

proud of the countless souls they brought to christ ..

Like my favorite protestant christian preacher rick warren said, "some christians forget that Christianity didnt start with Luther, for hundreds of years after st. Peter, the catholic church spread and defended christianity"[/s]

Confused evangelist, who's a Christian? You're not a Christian according to Annunaki2 and truthmans2012 because you're an idol worshipping catholic. You and truthmans2012 don't consider annunaki2 a Christian because he doesn't believe in trinity, while annunaki2 doesn't consider you and truthmans2012 true Christians because you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity! So who's deceiving who here?

Demmzy15:
Confused evangelist, who's a Christian? You're not a Christian according to Annunaki2 and truthmans2012 because you're an idol worshipping catholic. You and truthmans2012 don't consider annunaki2 a Christian because he doesn't believe in trinity, while annunaki2 doesn't consider you and truthmans2012 true Christians because you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity! So who's deceiving who here?

Demmzy15:
Confused evangelist, who's a Christian? You're not a Christian according to Annunaki2 and truthmans2012 because you're an idol worshipping catholic. You and truthmans2012 don't consider annunaki2 a Christian because he doesn't believe in trinity, while annunaki2 doesn't consider you and truthmans2012 true Christians because you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity! So who's deceiving who here?

lexiconkabir:


, so much confusion....

Demmzy15:
I tell you bro!

parisbookaddict:

Trying to get me upset with my good friends a.nnunaki and truthman..

I respect their rights to have their opinions.

By the way U dont need to call me her royal Majesty..

Parisbookaddict or ifeann is fine..apparently u are not a regular in the religion section, people who follow my comments here know i am a catholic. I am of the view all christians are one as long as ur follow biblical requirements set by christ our lord.

Ifeann:



Please quote where I have ever said I am roman catholic.

2. The devil/allah is working hard sowing discord amongst christians.

I dont care if annuki or other christians believe the trinity or not. If u deny that jesus is the christ, son of God and God and deny the father and the son then u are the anti thesis of a christian.

If u dont follow the teachings of christ, accept him in ur life, get baptised and love ur neighbour as ur self etc then u have a long way to go before calling ur self a christian.

3. I have read that paragraph of the catechism and it is very at first disturbing . until i saw a commentary given by a catholic scholar. Now lets breakdown that statement.
The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator,

Yes we have a creator, one being , a diety whom has a plan of salvation for all mankind be them jew, muslim, buddist, hindu
[b]in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;

This is the place i have an issue with this statement.. the frist place amongst them is the jews who believe in one absolute God, the christian who believe in one God comprising of the father, son and spirit.
Then believe it or not, the muslims who believe in one god living above the kabab in mecca..
The problem again with this statement is that muslims believe in an old pagan diety who had 3 daughters now known as allah..
Whoever wrote this clearly doesnt know islam well .

In no text in judaism is it taught that;
1. You need to pray so demons dont get u in the toilet
2. Shaytan climbs in to ur nostrils in the night
3. U can clean ur butt with stones and
4. U can beat women
5. U should colect jizyah from non believers
6. U can rape women
7. U can marry your sons wife like mohammed did
8. U can rob people
9. U can perform nitah mutah
10. That jinns /invisible people exists to torment u.
Etc the list goes on and on

Yes i am catholic a proud one.. proud of the crusades that saved europe and liberated Jerusalem and spain,

proud of the countless catholic missionary schools,

proud of the countless catholic hospitals and charity organisations which take care of even muslims.

proud of the countless souls they brought to christ ..

Like my favorite protestant christian preacher rick warren said, "some christians forget that Christianity didnt start with Luther, for hundreds of years after st. Peter, the catholic church spread and defended christianity..

annunaki2:


Trust this Amebo to invade this thread and start writing thrash, I am busy now drinking beer with pork chops when I finish, I will have time to properly address the issues raised which by the way does not concern you.

Demmzy15:
Confused evangelist, who's a Christian? You're not a Christian according to Annunaki2 and truthmans2012 because you're an idol worshipping catholic. You and truthmans2012 don't consider annunaki2 a Christian because he doesn't believe in trinity, while annunaki2 doesn't consider you and truthmans2012 true Christians because you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity! So who's deceiving who here?

annunaki2:


Trust this Amebo to invade this thread and start writing thrash, I am busy now drinking beer with pork chops when I finish, I will have time to properly address the issues raised which by the way does not concern you.

truthmans2012:
@ OP

Your attempt to pitch us against one another has failed woefully.

We are Christians and can never fight against one another

unlike the Sunnis and Shia muslims who fight and kill themselves. Recently, the Sunnis killed Shia muslims in Saudi Arabia because islam cannot give life but take it. It is so in many other parts of islamic world. I never saw where Muhammad and his allaah healed anybody or raise any dead but could take the lives of a whole generation. What a religion. Every other religion can live peacefully with each other except islam. Islam is the weapon of Satan to destroy the world in the name forced conversion.

Firstly, all Christians have some common beliefs, and the areas of differences do not bring trouble.

All Christians believe the following:
1. There is God the Father
2. There is Jesus the Son of God
3. There is the Holy Spirit

It doesn't matter whether or not you call it Trinity or one-God.

Trinity does not mean three Gods but one-God functioning in three offices, at the same time,

He can function in only one office. In an egg, you have the shell, the white (I don't know what it is otherwise called) and the yoke. So an egg is made up of three components yet it is one-egg.

Even man is made of flesh, blood and water. Therefore, man is made of three components yet it is one-man. The Bible says God created man in His own image, hence the similarity.

Drinkwater06:


No not at all.. I was just asking a question about who is more confused between the 3 of you.

Do you accept that you are an idol worshipper as truthman2012 claim? If no, prove him wrong.

Why?



Here is your post:
https://www.nairaland.com/2273638/iranian-muslim-saw-jesus/1#33073111

Today you are a Roman Catholic and tomorrow you are not, are you this confused?

When truthman2012 said the same devil responsible for Catholic is also the one behind Islam. You are not a Christian according to truth man and other Christians btw, so what discord are you talking about? Perhaps the Catholic are the devil causing the discord.

For you to deny the Trinity means you don't believe Jesus is God Almighty, Annunaki don't believe this, so in essence are you saying he is not a Christian?

But if you worship a statue and see the pope as representative of God on earth, you are not an idolator right?
Both truth man and Annunaki said you are

You don't have to break it down, it is quite clear, isn't it?



Why didn't you come to that thread where truth man talked about this?

In other words, you know far better than whoever wrote the Catholic cathecism'? Do you think you know better that the incarnate of Jesus himself on earth ?

Does that change the fact that you are a devil worshipper as truthman2912 believe? What do you have to say about what those popular Christian site ales said about Catholic? Perhaps you didn't see it in my post?

What do you have to say about Luther king, remember he allegedly liberated Pentecostal from the shackles of the Catholic church. I expect you opinion about him.

Demmzy15:
Confused evangelist, who's a Christian? You're not a Christian according to Annunaki2 and truthmans2012 because you're an idol worshipping catholic. You and truthmans2012 don't consider annunaki2 a Christian because he doesn't believe in trinity, while annunaki2 doesn't consider you and truthmans2012 true Christians because you subscribe to the doctrine of trinity! So who's deceiving who here?

annunaki2:


Trust this Amebo to invade this thread and start writing thrash, I am busy now drinking beer with pork chops when I finish, I will have time to properly address the issues raised which by the way does not concern you.

Uyi168:
CHRISTIANITY as a body is so divided against itself...as far as pentecostalists re concern,d catholics re hell-bound,and vice versa..nt mentioning other christian groups with their strange doctrines..smh

parisbookaddict:


Christians essentially believe the same thing.

I have also explained the criteria for being a christian. Not going to dwell further on this issue.

If i worship idols then i become i idol worshipper..fortunately i dont.

The muslim and al taqiyya.. you have taken my comment out of context.. that comment was made in 2015,

when i had not mentioned my preferred denomination to avoid comments, threads and topic on catholism by u muslims and ignorant "christians"

who end up derailing my threads. I was called a catholic by a presumptuous muslim and i asked "where have i said i was one.. its a simple question. And he couldnt answer.

Never denied i was one.. have u ever told me you are a negro.. u are probably one but i cannot just assume and call u a negro... dig deeper you may find something else..

Did he say this.. really.. oh men .. i am so upset right now..

When did i deny the trinity.. more lies from a muslim.. what else is new..

Who worships a statue.. please where is this imaginary statue..

the pope is the spiritual leader of the catholic church.

Every Christian is a representative of christ on earth.. thats our command.. be christ-like.. represent christ, the son amd word of God at work, school, home etc.. its not a one man title mr muslim..

Who is the incarnate of Jesus. . Dont blaspheme. .
I guess u want to imply the pope wrote the cathecism. . Shows how little u know of what u talking about.

Like the ones that said pope john paul is the anti christ, then it became pope benedict.. now they say its pope Francis. . I'll probably leave the church when they get it right. . Plus that pope antichrist must have a good set of horns. .red horns...

parisbookaddict:


Believing or rejecting the theory of a trinity does not make u a christian..do u even know what Christians believe..

Drinkwater06


No one is urging you to fight one another.. I'm only concerned on your level of hypocrisy.

You believe Catholics are worshipping satan don't you? You believe those who don't believe Jesus is God are going to hell don't you? Why are you then shy of telling this to the face of your brethrens that have erred greatly,?

I will rather have a friend that will fight me for my mistakes than the one that will rather laugh with me without correcting my mistakes when actually he knows it would lead me to hell.

b] Tell me how Sango worshippers will make Jesus's heaven when actually they lived a peaceful live before their death? [/b]

Common beliefs is not the bone of contention here but whether those who worship idols are not going to hell. You said they are going to hell, are you now going to eat your vomit

Lol, Trinity or one god? Do trinitarians believe in 3gods, they will answer no, they will tell you the 1+1+1 = 1. And then you are making it seem as if trinitarians believe in 3 different gods. You are only fooling yourself

parisbookaddict:


Dude dont drink too much beer.. we need your head clear to address these sowers of discord

Drinkwater06:


Let him drink, Jesus was a drunkard too.

Drinkwater06:


Lol, this is an outright lie and I guess you are not aware of this. What do you mean by Christian believe the same thing actually your beliefs and that of Annunaki and truth man have their differences?

The fact the truthman2011 believe that you are an idol worshippers and that satan engineered the Catholic church makes your belief different from his. I don't know what you are trying so hard to prove here, maybe you think we are dummies.



Perhaps I skipped it, could you please outline it in detail?




You worship idol according to him and other Christians. I have articles that you cannot debunk here, I will advise you to beat it.




Your comment wasn't taken out of context Mr woman



woww! Why are you hiding your affiliation? Probably because you think you are in the wrong part different from your alleged Muslims and ignorant Christians like truthman2012 who would open thread to say Catholic are of the devil.. Hehe.



Continue lying. Any discerning mind reading the bolded question will know that you were trying to hide your belief that day.





If you call me a negro, I will certainly not say where did I say I am basically because I am. But if you call me something I am not, I will certainly ask you where you got that misconception about who I am. Why are you trying to deny the obvious





continues fooling yourself




You didn't get the point I was trying to raise.. " For one to deny the Trinity means you don't believe Jesus is God Almighty, Annunaki don't believe this, so in essence are you saying he is not a Christian? "




Catholic worship both Mary and Jesus's statue ask truthman2012, he will show you.



Otherwise the vicar of Christ, innit? Now please tell us what the vicar of Christ means according to Catholic belief.



Are all Christians vicar of Christ?





Those who are more grounded in Catholicism wrote the catechism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catechism the question then is do you know better than them?





Does that change the fact that they see you and your fellow as non Christians?

truthmans2012:


Where did I say so?

We are not compelled to believe Jesus as God, the primary Gospel is Jesus is the Son of God.

Christians don't fight to correct the mistakes of others, we only admonish them. It is muslims that fight and kill for people not believing in islam.

I had once posted a thread on Catholic. I'm not in the position to force anybody to believe me. There is no force in matters of faith, except in islam.

Living in peace with people alone is not enough to go to heaven. The Bible says "follow peace with all men and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord" You must live in peace with all people plus holiness. Holiness is the live of God in man.

Yes, idol worshipers are surely going to hell. That is why I pity the muslims who whorship an Arabian idol, allaah.

Islamic spirit is already working inside you here. I wonder what you would have done if this debate is one-on-one.

Didn't you read my post that Trinity doesn't mean three Gods? Where did you read me saying the trash you are saying?

[b] The issue of Trinity is far beyond your comprehension.