Newnas:
Praise be to Allah, His Solah and salam be upon the last of messengers, his household, companions and all those who follow them till the day of recompense.



When Islam came, and expanded through conquests during the reign of Uthman bn Affaan rodiyaLLaahu anhu, the fire of jealousy and hatred ignited in the heart of AbduLLah bn Saba the Jew (who claimed to accept Islam), he wished to revive the honour of his fathers the banu Qoynuqa, banu nadir and banu quraydha tribes. So he and the Jews of San'a (a city in Yemen) planned and pretended to be lovers of Ali bn Abu Talib rodiyaLLaahu anhu, but Ali knew the extent of their misguidances and danger on the true Islam, so also did his children and offspring abhorred them.

Imam Ibn Hajar said: AbduLLah bn Saba is a heretic misguided and misguiding infidel (lisaanul meezan 3/289).

Zayd bn Wahb also reports: Suwayd bn Ghaflah entered upon Ali during his reign, and said: I met some people mentioning (negatively) Abu Bakr and Umar, they believe that you also have the same (negative) thought about them, among them is AbduLLah bn Saba, and AbduLLah bn Saba was the first to show that, Ali said: what have I got to do with this black filth (i.e Abdullah bn Saba) and said: refuge with Allah from holding anything against them both except beautiful praise. Then he sent for AbduLLah bn Saba, and expelled him far away saying : He won't live with me in this city ever, then he mounted the mimbar till the people gathered and mentioned the story of his praise upon them both (i.e Abu Bakr and Umar) and said : listen people! I should ever hear of anyone raising my rank above theirs except that I give him the lashing of false accuser. (lisaanul meezan 3/290 the men of its chain are all reliable as graded in fitnah maqtal Uthman (1/147).

This is history bearing witness against their fabrications and falsehood.

Demmzy15:
Very educative, meanwhile, Shi'as are coming for you intestines!

Newnas:
For the newbies in the section AlBaqir is a shite.

AlBaqir:
^ A loser and propagandist.

Newnas:


Thanks so much, It's a compliment.

Many worse statements have been said by criminals to the Messengers of Allah alyhimussolaat wassalaam, so there is nothing new in your insult.

Why would I even be offended by the insult of a man who knows no bounds in insulting Abu Bakr and Umar?!


Being insulted by you only increases my reward with Allah.

I have just one word for you:

REPENT!!!

lexiconkabir:


Or a man who is more ignorant of the Quran than a five year old Sunni kid.

lexiconkabir:
Honestly at times i dont worry much about the Shī`ah because their history is even laughable and ugly, In the past, we do not know them for their Jihad in the name of Islam, but we do know them as follows:

# Their support of the Mongols who invaded Baghdad and destroyed it. This was through the Shī`ah minister Ibn al-`Alqami and the Shī`ah scholar al-Nasīr al-tūsī.

The Shī`ah scholar, al-Mīrza Muhammad Bāqir al-Musawi al-Khawansārī al-Asbahānī said in the biography of Nasīr-ul-Dīn al-tūsī:

“He is the wise, outspoken, venerated researcher… from what is known and popular about him is he was granted the ministry in the protected land of Iran by Sultan Hulagu Khan (grandson of Genghis Khan), from the great Sultans of the Mongols. He came as part of the escort for the (Mongol) Sultan to Baghdad in order to guide the servants of God and attempt to reform the lands and extinguish tyranny and corruption by removing the capital of the kingdom of Banu al-`Abbās and causing a mass slaughter directed at the followers of those oppressors until their filthy blood spilled to form rivers. It gushed into the river of al-Dajlah and from it to the fires of hell and the dwelling place of the evildoers.”

Al-Khomeinī as well blessed Tusī’s action and considered it a victory for Islam. He said, “If the circumstance of Taqiyyah forced any of us (i.e. Shī`ah) to be from the servants of the Sultans, then we must refrain from doing so even if it leads to our death. Unless, presenting oneself as an apparent follower will lead to a real victory for Islam and Muslims, such as what `Alī bin Yaqtīn and Nasīr-ul-Dīn al-Tusī did.”

We learned what Nasīr-ul-Din al-Tusī did, so what did `Alī bin Yaqtīn do?

Their Shī`ah scholar Ni`matullah al-Jaza’irī writes: “In the narrations, `Alī bin Yaqtīn was the minister of (`Abbāsi Caliph) al-Rasheed, when a group from the opponents (i.e Sunnies) were gathered in a prison he was in charge of. Ibn Yaqtin ordered his servants to demolish the ceiling on their heads and he managed to kill around five hundred of them. He then wished to rid himself of the blood on his hands, so he sent a letter to the Imam, our master Musa al-Kadhim who told him: “If you had asked me before then you wouldn’t have had their blood on your hand but since you didn’t then repent for each one by sacrificing a goat and the goat is more valuable than they are.” So look at this good way of offering blood-money, it is less than that the blood-money paid for their younger brother, which is the blood-money price of a hunting dog (twenty Dirhams), and less than that of their elder brothers, the Jews and Zoroastrians (eight hundred Dirhams). They will be even more worth even less in the after-life.”

# Their support for the crusaders against the Muslims during the crusades and opening the fronts for them to enter.

# Conducting celebrations when the Ottoman army was beaten by the Russians and their constant wars against the Ottoman Empire.

# Slaughtering the pilgrims and removing the black-stone and taking it to al-Ihsa’.

As for modern times:

# Khomaynī’s statement that the road to Jerusalem must pass by `Iraq. Then his praise for Nasīr-ul-Dīn al-Tūsī who caused a massacre in Baghdad in the days of the Tattar.

# Murdering the preachers of Ahlul-Sunnah in Iran such as Ahmad Mufti Zādeh, Ahmad Kasravi, Al-Burqu`ī, Mudhaffariyān and many others.

# The Palestinian massacre of Sabra and Shateela at the hands of (the Shī`ah) Amal movement.

# Their statements about liberating the Ka`bah and the Prophet’s (peace be upon him) mosque. The explosions in the Haram of Makkah.

As well as many others but it is sufficient to take what their scholar al-Ahqaqī al-Ha’irī about the Islamic conquests on Persian: “The people of Rome and the people of Iran had both received big shocks as a result of the attacks of the Muslims. The treatment they endured at the hands of the primitive Bedouins who never understood the great spirit of Islam had created in them a hatred for the Arabs and their faith. is the harsh nature of the Bedouin thugs, coupled with the destruction they had inflicted on the most beautiful cities in the east and the west. The attacks by the worshippers of desires who had a thirst for the modesty of that kingdom and that empire…”

Observe well dear reader, see how this contemporary Shī`ah scholar describes the Companions who conquered the lands of Persia (that the nationalistic author longs to) he describes them as a bunch of primitive Bedouins, thugs who worship desires and thirst for the modesty of Persian women. We don’t comprehend what modesty was there in Persia at the time, when it was part of their culture for a brother to marry his sister!?

Would a Muslim say this? This is the main reason for the Shī`ah’s hatred towards `Umar, it is that he destroyed the Persian Empire. It is also the same reason that they glorify al-husayn’s children rather than those of al-hasan, for al-husayn’s children are the Persian uncles from his wife Shahrabanu bin Yezdagirt. Also their glorification for Salman al-Farisi without the rest of the Companions until they claimed he received revelation, of course because he’s Persian.

This is also why they narrated in their books from `Alī ibn Abī tālib, that he said about (Persian King) Chosroes: “Allāh has saved him from the torment of the fire, hell is forbidden for him.”

carinmom:


Jazakallah khayran, but you forgot to mention the stampede in Mina last hajj caused by the shi'as just to score cheap points and show to the world that Saudi Arabia is incapable of protecting lives during hajj.

lexiconkabir:


WAllaahi these people are filled with hate for Muslims, in this forum they try to use at-taquiyya to hide their true nature which sadly gets to some brothers that do not know these rawaafidh – shī`a...

May Allaah save us from their misguidance.. Ameen

carinmom:


They are pathetic beings, can you imagine their taqiyya when one of them here on Nairaland was denying that they engage in all kinds of promiscuity in the name of mut'a when they trekked from all parts of the country to Zaria.

Just as you said,may Allah save us from their misguidance.

lexiconkabir:


Yea, bāqir .......meanwhile he is coming for your head

carinmom:


Let him come na

lexiconkabir:


Anyway we will be here to defend you when he comes....

carinmom:

Thankyou ooo,

Since then i avoid any form of argument with him because its fruitless, i don't even open their threads.

lexiconkabir:


Well as for me, I cant avoid their threads, cuz if no one attack them, ignorant sunnis will take their submission as facts, at times when I'm bored i open threads to look for their trouble .....i opened threads about Abu bakr, Umar, Abu hurayra purposely because of them......people have to stand up to these shī`ahs cuz many lay sunnis are being deceived and initiated to shī'ism, thanks to brother sino, Newnas, Demnzy15, may Allaah preserve them, theyve(rawaafid) always failed because of these brothers.

lexiconkabir:


Well as for me, I cant avoid their threads, cuz if no one attack them, ignorant sunnis will take their submission as facts, at times when I'm bored i open threads to look for their trouble .....i opened threads about Abu bakr, Umar, Abu hurayra purposely because of them......people have to stand up to these shī`ahs cuz many lay sunnis are being deceived and initiated to shī'ism, thanks to brother sino, Newnas, Demnzy15, may Allaah preserve them, theyve(rawaafid) always failed because of these brothers.

Newnas:


It's the mercy of Allah First, then the striving of those brothers

lexiconkabir:

Noted

lexiconkabir:


Well as for me, I cant avoid their threads, cuz if no one attack them, ignorant sunnis will take their submission as facts, at times when I'm bored i open threads to look for their trouble .....i opened threads about Abu bakr, Umar, Abu hurayra purposely because of them......people have to stand up to these shī`ahs cuz many lay sunnis are being deceived and initiated to shī'ism, thanks to brother sino, Newnas, Demnzy15, may Allaah preserve them, theyve(rawaafid) always failed because of Allaah's mercy and the jihad of these brothers.

Newnas:


Im glad you understand me. I know you couldn't have intentionally made the error. But we are all prone to errors and correcting one another is a religious obligation.

Demmzy15:
You forgot brother farmerforlife, Mrolai, lexiconkabir, betathings!

lexiconkabir:


And brother BreadAndBeans he really gave baqir the finishing of his life about the 12 caliphs.