The city of David established over 3800 years ago and the temple built by King Solomon unto God. Which all have empirical substantiation archaeologically. Are by your reasoning Imaginary
I watched Benjamin Netanyahu trace his heritage 2000 years to Jerusalem city of David a city 3800 years old.
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
What I am saying is that temporary control does not give you ownership or changes the very unique historical inheritance of the city of David.
Let me ask you a simple question. And please answer it honestly.
Using modern scientific tools, if you to trace your own ancestry down to the last 3800 yrs, and your trace lands you in the middle of the biggest gold deposits in Ghana or diamond deposits in Liberia or rich fertile lands in the Congo, would claim a legitimate right of return as the original owners or inhabitants of any of the above mentioned lands?
Do you get my drift?
At the end of the day, you see that your arguments, your position on this issue is based or greatly influenced by Religious sentiments, and nothing else.
[size=18pt]Why Sanusi supports Palestinian Independence with Jerusalem as it's capital[/size] "But what they do not know is that, once they allow us to vote, we will all vote for Islamic parties because we do not believe in left and right. This will make us win local councils and as we begin to accumulate power in the Catalan autonomous region, Islam will begin to be implemented."
— Abdelwahab Huzi, Salafist preacher, Lleida
The issue of Israeli "occupation" of what is referred to as Palestine is one that may appear as a socio-political struggle for an independent Arab state with Jerusalem as it's capital.
This is what most of you naively tap into similar to the anti-Apartheid struggle of black South Africans.
But is the Palestine issue simply a political struggle to "liberate" the Arabs from Israeli "occupation"?
The answer is not as simple as one will expect it be but rather at the heart of the Palestine issue is actually a dark struggle of validating an Islamic prophecy handed down by the Prophet of Islam (Mohammed) to his followers that Jerusalem will become the capital of the global Caliphate ruled by the Iman Mahdi.
As long as Israel and the Jews still occupy Palestine and control Jerusalem, this prophetic claim and it's prophesier become more invalidated!
This is why the Palestine cause is more of a religious struggle with virtually every muslim on the planet taking sides with their fellow Muslim Arabs.
Amir Sanusi is no ordinary Muslim. He is in effect, by virtue of his current office, the head or leader of the Muslim population of Kano. His position isn't a traditional tittle but more of a religious one.
This is why Amir Sanusi is venting his frustrations on GEJ opting to remain neutral (as we have always done) on the Palestinian vote.
One of the biggest misconceptions most people have of islam and it's holy sites is assuming wrongly that Mecca is the most holiest of all Islamic sites. The most holy site in Islam isn't Mecca but Jerusalem and at the centre is the Alqas Mosque.
Mohammed in one of his many dubious claims, told his followers that he fell into a trance and found himself at the centre of the ancient ruins of the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem from where he further claimed he ascended to heaven. It was while he was in Heaven that he was told that Jerusalem will be the future Capital of the global Islamic empire from where the Iman Mahdi will rule the world.
The Palestinian Cause is thus a religious quest to juxtapose a long dead prophetic claim unto the world.
This is why the likes of Sanusi are throwing their weight on Palestine!
blackpanda: Just look at the ignorance displayed by some of the people above me. Its like they never went to school or dont bother watching or reading news. If you have no clue about the dispute between palestine and israel, the least u can do is google it or just shut up. Even someone is comparing palestine to biafra Smh
If Nigeria knows whats good for it...it berra shut the hell up on the issue of Palestine
plainol: The conflict is about land grabbing. Isreal wants to steal Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Golgotta, West Bank, Gaza and Samaria from the Palestinians so they can complete their imaginary history.
If Palestina is given independence today, they will have definite boundary hence the craze for continuous occupation.
Aside Aza(Gaza), all those other places you mentioned belonged to the Jews
plainol: [s]The conflict is about land grabbing. Isreal wants to steal Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Golgotta, West Bank, Gaza and Samaria from the Palestinians so they can complete their imaginary history.
If Palestina is given independence today, they will have definite boundary hence the craze for continuous occupation[/s].
The conflict is about proving Muhammed's prophecy of Jerusalem as the capital of the future global Islamic caliphate!
The only state we should support in the middle east is Israel. The rest are blood thirsty, religious fanatics, with tendency to suppress and marginalize the black African. Shame on any leader who thinks he can use his position to drag Nigeria into the fundamentalism Islamic culture of the backward middle east.
Why does a northern Muslim feel that he's more related with a Muslim in the Middle East than a fellow Northerner from Middle Belt Naija who shares the same DNA? Why does an average northerner care about "injustice" in the Middle East but doesn't care about Muslim-Muslim or Muslim to Xtian injustice in the north??
adconline: Why does a northern Muslim feel that he's more related with a Muslim in the Middle East than a fellow Northerner from Middle Belt Naija who shares the same DNA? Why does an average northerner care about "injustice" in the Middle East but doesn't care about Muslim-Muslim or Muslim to Xtian justice in the north??
If you solve that problem, you will be nominated for a noble price! The dirty, unculktured, and fanatic muslim middle easterner is their role model. You see Buhari rushing to give support, money, and assistance to them while his own people are suffering. The corrupt Sanusi doesn't want to be left out. Meanwhile, his tenure at the CBN can't even be discussed because of a court order, yet his brother Buhari is busy chasing other people around.
adconline: Why does a northern Muslim feel that he's more related with a Muslim in the Middle East than a fellow Northerner from Middle Belt Naija who shares the same DNA? Why does an average northerner care about "injustice" in the Middle East but doesn't care about Muslim-Muslim or Muslim to Xtian justice in the north??
There is a driving club in Abuja composed of super rich young Hausa/Fulani men and boys .
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended). Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable. First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective. The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success. Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis. Here are the FACTS: Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you. The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof. Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture. And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews. Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question. What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
Nonsense ..not making sense at all[s][quote author=plaetton post=48453065]
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
Nonsense ..not making sense at all[/s][s][/s][quote author=plaetton post=48453065]
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander..
Nonsense ..not making sense at all, every indigenous people should be allowed to be free no matter who they are...!!! Now, we are Biafrans
they are Palestinians [quote author=plaetton post=48453065] This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended). Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable. First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective. The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success. Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis. Here are the FACTS: Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you. The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof. Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture. And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews. Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question. What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
Nonsense ..not making sense at all[s][quote author=plaetton post=48453065]
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander.
[s][quote author=plaetton post=48453065]
Nonsense ..not making sense at all[/s][s][/s][quote author=plaetton post=48453065]
This is both very hilarious and ignorant( again, no disrespect to you intended).
Natanyahu is a fanatical Zionist, a psychopath, and a war criminal. So, citing Natanyahu as a historical authority on Palestine is very very laughable.
First of all , my brother, the Bible is not history. Once you understand that, then you might see the issue from a different perspective.
The Israeli government has been digging up everywhere for more than 50 yrs, desperately looking for a historical or archeological link, or proof of ancestry, a historical Certificate Of Occupancy( C of O) to justify their continued illegal occupation of Palestinian lands, all with no success.
Every historical claim has one after another turned out to be archaeologically bogus. Every now and then they make spurious claims of finding this or that artifact that links them to king David, king Solomon, etc. But when put through critical archeological analysis, such claims always tend to show no scientific and historical basis.
Here are the FACTS:
Till date, there has been Zero historical and archeological proof that the so-called kingdoms of David and Solomon ever existed. I know this may shock you.
The ancient Hebrews were no more than few thousand moving tent dwellers who left ZERO historical and archeological proof that they settled anywhere for any extended period of time, talkless of building a sprawling empire. This is not merely my opinion. There just isn't any proof.
Archeological excavations throughout Israel have tended to reveal the presence of Canaanite tribes that occupied the areas at different eras. No sign of Hebrew culture.
And yes, the city of Jerusalem has changed hands many times over the last 1000yrs. How does that prove ownership in favor of the Jews.
Even in the Bible, the ancient Hebrews supposedly went on a genocidal org.y to drive away the inhabitants of the areas they occupied. Does that confer ownership to them ? If so, then whoever eventually drove them out Should also be the legitimate claimants to the lands in question.
What's good for the geese is also good for the gander..
Nonsense ..not making sense at all, every indigenous people should be allowed to be free no matter who they are...!!! Now, we are Biafrans
