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Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:44am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: This fallacy is the reason I asked : " gnashing of Teeth" , is the TEETH not physical ?
So confuse set of people, soon they will say God is immaterial. Yet he is been presented as a man who needs a tongue to speak, what about vocal cord ? Sighs Okay, basically your god is an humanoid, needs a fleshly tongue to speak . awesome 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by wirinet(m): 6:51am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet:So you have not realized that their God is a Jewish man who speaks only Aramaic, with blue eyes and was circumsized according to Jewish customs. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by oglalasioux(m): 8:15am On Aug 26, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: In as much as we are simply debating like educated people I believe it's up to you to first condemn the death threat to my person by that poster. If you don't then it's hypocrisy for you to continue to condemn Muslims for their killings. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 8:17am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: Oh so without the tonegue one SPEAK WELL? Speaking well was what i asked you so drop the vocal cord defence. Explain to me how one can pronouce words clearly without the tonegue and stop blabbing. And spirit being immaterial means they dont possess tongue? You are really confused. 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by ifenes(m): 9:43am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: I like that point |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MrMontella(m): 10:01am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:people who have gone to hell and back?..oh u mean the six year old boy who went to heaven and back and then 10-16 years later he admitted that he lied? Millions? What a fallacy.. muslims who have met allah nko? Christians who have met allah nko? What are u saying bruh?.. Gimme something to chew on..not these stuffs..ive dealt with it on nde's.. in other words ''snow white is real''....i hope u know different movies have been made about her?...different opinions etc..therefore snow white and the rest are real.. Well then extend my greetings to peter pan when u see him in heaven... serzly? 1 john 4:7,8,16...enjoy... Even john 3:16 sef....? What u saying ni? what does holy mean?(for a God) can a holy god hate? Dude...isaiah 27:4 ...habakkuk 1:13... he said his mercy has no limit... do u know what eternal punishment means? What does all merciful mean? I created these bible verse abi? Jer3:12...micah 7:18 1 chro 16:34...jer 33:11 funny! [/quote] [s]Where did the bible claim all loving and says that it means he cant be angry or punish?[/s] na wa! 1 john 3:20 its like u dont understand the word everything... U experience emotions as a result of new information gained...fact... ur bible said god changes his mind though..lol...and he even sinned in the bible...a lot..so? wrong idea! The biblical god didnt create me... eternal punishment contrasts all merciful...get it.. keep on deceiving urself that i am going to give account to your imaginary friend... Sin is jst a name for negative survival traits.. Morals are independent of god... Morals of different communities are different.. Do u accept marriage by rape? Or slavery? 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by analice107: 10:18am On Aug 26, 2016 |
ifenes:hahahahahahahahahahahaha. Amongst the so called atheists in this place, you are the least serious. gerarahia man 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 10:19am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: That makes them material. A spirit having a fleshly tongue. Lolzzzz , And if you are so sure provide proof from your bible where it ever say spirit have tongue ! Tongue remains a Body part! |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 11:04am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: This is not the issue. You are dodging my question. Here is it again- Can one pronounce words well without the tongue? How come the spirit pronounce words clearly since they dont have tongue? Kindly explain to me. I have told you that your spirit is same shape/form/appearance as you but the difference is that its not physical or mortal. You just want to be going round and confusing yourself. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 11:13am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: As human , you can't . but for an immaterial being its not needed, is your God human ?
You believe in this things so you should explain, and spirit according to Christianity is immaterial, that's why they ain't believed to have vagin*a or pen*is , talkless. Of tongue which your bible identifies as a Body part. " the tongue is a small [size=28] part of the body, [/size] " says the Bible . Going by this analogy of spirit as immaterial, that rules, out the tongue option Unless , you want to tell me your god is a material being that will be interesting, then we can start from there |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by americanigga(m): 11:27am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: If truly he gave His son to the whole world why did the son live and die in a small town called Israel why did the son not travel to the whole world to present himself to them. Is Israel the whole world? Before the coming of Jesus how was Jehova relating to africans to show we were his children? Why is it that there was no record of any relationship between Jehova and Africans, Europe etc but only the Jews. Does that not tell you that the bible is simply an history of a nation and their relationship with their God. We Africans believe that anything that comes from the white man is superior why? The yorubas have their history how they were created by Oduduwa, the Benin people have their own, so also people in Asia. So my brother the issue of hell fire has nothing to do with me and you but the people of Israel. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by americanigga(m): 11:59am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: That is not true the spirit inside man does not have the shape of man. The spirit inside man does not have form, it is like a force. You can imagine it like a smoke, or air or electricity(current) with energy. To be more specific, let me quote the bible: the bible said God breath into man and man became a living soul. It is the breath that we refer to as spirit. Does breath have form? Can breath talk or walk. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:34pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MrMontella: Which six year old boy? And that supersedes the million others across the globe who stood by their testimonies? The atheists who had the experience and gave their life to Christ. The muslims, the hindus, the traditional worshippers, the occcultic men and others who have experienced this and gave their lives to Christ? These testimonies have been happening over the years. You are joking by using your so called six year old boy to cancel the overwhelming testimonies. See how you easily believed your six year old boy but find it hard to believe the millions of others who not only testified to this experience but also gave their lives to Christ. You are a hypocrite indeed. MrMontella: I have never seen a christian who have had an out of life experience and converted to Islam based on what he saw. What you see is christians converting to muslim due to marriage or money or politics etc. Not based on an out of life experience they had biko. Give me a link to such testimonies and i will provide you more to mine. MrMontella: Again you failed. The place you quoted does not show what i asked you to show me. I asked you to show me where it is written that God iis an all loving God who cannot punish people. Kindly show it to me and stop going round. MrMontella: Pls stop deceiving yourself. Read what led to that statement in verse 4. Start from Isaiah 25 and follow the writing and you will see the bible was describing of a particular time and event. Notice it kept saying- on that day. I dont do cut and join in the bible. you dont just cut a statement and portray it wrongly. MrMontella: Pls be sincere in reading the bible. The place you quoted in Jeremiah God told them to return from their backslidden state so that he will not cause his anger upon them. As long as they return he will show them his mercy and not keep his anger forever. God's anger upon a sinner ceases when the sinner repents. As long as you refused to repent his anger stays there and once you leave this life unrepented, then there is no more repentance room for you. The door of repentance closes. MrMontella: 1. I have told you that the fact that God knoweth everything doesnt mean he wont still show us that he is angry when we sin. He is dealing with human that is not all knowing and if he says he hates sin, he must show it to man when man sins. Its a simple thing to understand but your evil mind towards God will pretend not to understand. 2. when a sinner repents God changes his mind towards him. God cannot change his mind to youjust because you are angry with him. You can be angry and thats your business, he will still do what he wants to do. 3. You have no say in your creation. You didnt even ask to be created so you can continue to make the empty noise that God didnt create you. MrMontella: What you are saying would ve made sense if you had say in you creation. If you had say in how your life will run and when you will die. For now remain a noise maker that you are. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:42pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
americanigga: God is a spirit.So you mean God is a smoke that cannot talk? Angels are spirits. So you mean angels are smokes that cannot talk? Satan and demons are spirits so you mean they are smokes and cant talk? Stop deceiving yourself. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:47pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
americanigga: You are just making noise. I have shown you several places where the bible addresses the world and you are here telling me empty stories. I dont have time for your empty stories. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:55pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: God is a spirit, he talks to people, he hears prayers, he sees and moves. Angels are spirit, they talk, hear, sees and moves. Satan and demons are spirits, they talk, hear, see, move and they can be tormented. Then when it comes to man and his spirit you start playing games with what a material should possess and what an immaterial should not possess. keep deceiving yourself. you have failed woefully to tell me how the spirits mentioned above can pronounce words clearly without having a tongue. Why are you dodging this question? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by americanigga(m): 1:30pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: you are mixing things up. God,angels and satan are spirits. They can talk, walk, they have form like human beings. But man does not have a spirit inside him that has form like a man. What man has is a flesh made from dust and a breath that made him a living soul. Man is a a living soul. What is a living soul? A living soul is flesh and breath from God. The bible did not say God created spirit and put it inside flesh to make man. It is because you have been hearing such things for long that is why you think it is so. Take your time to sudy things. That is the reason God said when the trumpet sounds the grave shall give up the dead. If man actually has spirit what happens to the spirit when a man dies. Where will the spirit go to? You know spirit cannot die. Will the spirit go to heaven or hell, then when the trumpet sound the dead body will now resurate again to go and join him(the spirit) in heaven or hell? When Adam sinned against God. God said dust you are and dust shall you return. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 2:05pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: This is the most irrational and illogical post have ever read . I can as well ask you, CAN SOMEONE BE REFFERED TO AS " HE" IF THEY DONT HAVE THE MALE SEX ORGAN ? Don't dodge it, I just want you to see how sensible you are. the bolded statement disqualify your god from having tongue. And somewhere in the bible someone said spirit don't have flesh ~ Tongue is pure flesh man . and this same tongue mentioned in that story can taste water . lol god drink water. Very soon you will tell me God eat food Proof from the bible that god have tongue ? U no get na to dey assume. basically, the pictures in your head about the god u serve must be so humanoid having every part of man including sex organs ( aftrall he is used for him, denoting a male ) god have teeth too , hahahaha am trying to imagine the kind of picture in your head about how god looked like . so pathetic that rational thinking is exchanged when your indoctrination is scrutinized |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MrMontella(m): 4:52pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:is it only christ they convert to? The others who deconvert from christianity as a result of their hallucinations nko? where did i say i believed the six year old dude..where? I gave him as a classical example to what they are...smh people convert to various religions because of these hallucinations... the web is out there for u nderf if im not mistaken.. Just a single google search will ease u.. And why do u seem so concerned about numbers? Does numbers mean something is truth? what are u saying? How can hate spring out of love? Ur agument is like this.. God to moses--thou shall not kill ...it is not written that the killing applies only to humans..therefore killing trees and animals are bad.. ..smh
but u cut and join isaiah 7:14 and other bible verses.. What about habakkuk? lol o.. U said i should quote from the bible..i did just that...asin a lot of verses potray god as all merciful..i can bombard u with more... U only talked about jer... The rest nko? Esp psalms and that 1 chro 16:34.. then he is not all knowing.. IOW the scripture lied... And it was said all scriptures are inspired by god..so he lied? he hates sin and yet he sinned in the bible..and in the end will still claim to be all good and only holy one.. Who is deceiving who? Some ancient jewish writers or you? lol..the biblical god or another God? Who? no need for this.. if my parents hadnt done their stuff on their bed...i will not exist.. Simple as abc no need for this again! lol..i can decide to be a robber..i can decide to be an actor...i can decide to be a doctor...i can decide to have four kids...i can decide to have two kids...i can decide to have no kids of mine at all and adopt a kid... I can decide to eat beans...i can decide to eat rice... I see no point u made...i run my life mister i can stay in front of a road and kill myself... I can live unhealthily and increase my chances of death...i can live healthily and increase my years of survival...so? lol...not really hilarious tho |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 6:10pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Lol... Soul get teeth? Loooool I forgot, you guys need teeth to chop heavenly chicken |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 6:13pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: Lol... Did u forget that they need teeth to eat heavenly chicken |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 6:16pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Loooooool!!! So without tongue, spirit and even your God cannot talk? Do spirits also have intestine to digest their food? Sorry, do spirits go to toilet? I can't stop laughing here... See tears for my eyes. Sir, abeg does spirit like Amala and goat meat too? Lol |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 6:22pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Oga professional in spiritual matters... Touch your tongue , is it spirit or flesh... ? Do you think spirits eat? Ot drink stout? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 6:51pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
americanigga: Nope you are wrong.The spirit of man is not just his breathe. Now lets check this biblical statements and see whether spirit is the breathe- 1 Corinthians 2;11 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Here talks about the spirit of man having knowledge. Does this sound like just breathe or smoke? 1 corinthians 6; 20 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. Also does spirit as mentioned here look like breathe or smoke? 1 cor. 14 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.. This sounds like breath or smoke too? 1 Thess. 5 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 timothy 4 22 The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen. Finally 1 Peter 3 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. Now be sincere and tell me how spirit means just breath or smoke and not being from the few bible passages up there |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 6:59pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
frank317: The same you that does not believe in anything outside the physical is the one telling me how a spirit should be. Shows the hypocricy in your claim of atheism. You dont believe in God, you dont believe in spirits and spiritual realm yet here you are telling me how spirits should be? Hypocrisy. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 7:08pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: You pretend not to know that God created man in his image. While we have his image but in the flesh, He is a spirit. Keep pretending. Genesis 1 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. You dont believe in God, you dont believe in spirits yet you re here arguing with me how a spirit should or should not be. Hypocrisy of Naija atheists. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 7:17pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Don't mind him, he means God is a smoke that cannot shhiiittt... How the hell can a mere mortal think that the almighty God cannot shyte. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by frank317: 8:10pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Lol... Telling u what? I am asking u questions to show u how foolish u sound... I think u saw ur stupidity that why you are trying to assume u know not what I am talking about. Does spirit shyte? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 9:13pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
frank317: Now that i have pointed out your foolishness and stupldity you have started blabbing. Bunch of hypocrites. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:02am On Aug 27, 2016 |
honourhim:I can't laugh oooooooo @ bold , god has breast , vagina , penis ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:05am On Aug 27, 2016 |
frank317: Lol |
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