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Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 11:15pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
MrMontella: And the millions of people who have passed out of life and back and experienced the horrors of hell are not undeniable evidences for themselves and a confirmation of what we are preaching? You are deceiving yourself. Moreover its not only christians that have experienced this. It includes people of various religious and cultural backgrounds who at the end of the day give their lives to Christ. You turn blind eyes to such testimonies because you want to keep deceiving yourself that hell is not real. MrMontella: O yeah kindly show me where God told you in the bible that he is an all loving God and for that reason he cannot hate, he cannot be angry and he cannot punish people for their sins. You just created what you think you can use as an excuse but you are deceiving yourself. If he did not state these things in the bible then you would ve scored a point by telling us that he is doing what he is not known to do in the bible. MrMontella: Where did the bible claim all loving and says that it means he cant be angry or punish? All knowing doesnt mean that if he has forseen that you will sin he wouldnt be angry when you commit the sin. He has said he hates sin and frowns at it and he cannot change because of you. You dont want to change for God but you want him to change for you. How silly you reason. A creator changing for his creature. He is all knowing but there is still need for him to show us that he is angry when we sin. Or you want him to keep silence to sin because he is all knowing so that you will start feeling that he is very cool with us sinning? MrMontella: And what stops you from rejecting the finite sin so as to escape the infinite consequences if not for your undying love for the infinite sin? If humans like you are rejecting sin why not you? stop deceiving yourself bro you have no excuse. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 11:38pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
frank317: The crap you people always present to defend yourself but we christians cant fall for your foolishness. When muslims are talking about God they are talking about the supreme being. Same goes for christians. The hell that both religions refer to is the one created by the supreme being. There is only one supreme God what differs is our views/approach. Moreover, the Koran acknowledges Moses, Abraham, Jesus and some other bible personalities as prophets of God. Our bible does not recognize their Muhammed at all talk more of calling him prophet of God. Now use your tongue and count your teeth if you are wise. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 11:42pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
MizJanet: Experience is the best teacher. Since you dont understand him, maybe experience will teach you better but i pray God saves you now so that you dont experience it. Amen. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 11:44pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
honourhim: experience what exactly ? 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 11:55pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
MizJanet: Yes the body and the soul will be tormented in the lake of fire forever and ever after the final judgment as recorded in Revelations. Thats why the second ressurection will take place which is for sinners who are dead to be judged and cast into the lake of fire. The talk about spirit/soul being tormented in hell is concerning sinners that are dead. The one of both body and soul is at the final judgment. Nobody is begging you to believe but whether you like it or not you will face it when the time comes if you dont repent. I dont paint words for people on this matter. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by ifenes(m): 11:56pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
honourhim: So you truly believe hell fire is real? You have a long way to go 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by ifenes(m): 11:58pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
analice107: So you are trying to convince me that santa is real too? Too bad,an adult like yourself thinks hell is real. I cannot help you. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 12:06am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: see explanation , the one of , as if he is in a supermarket telling the prices of goods @ blue, @ red he is not even sure whether its spirit or soul all is spirit/soul that's what happen when you talk about fiction . where in your bible did you get the statements in red and blue ? soul/spirit is for dead sinners while body and soul is for final judgement . where ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by americanigga(m): 12:18am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: when Jehova was talking all that he was talking to the children of Israel. He never mentioned Africa, europ or Americ. Do have any evidence of Jehava relating to African during the time of Abraham. What is our business with another countrys religion? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by Deicide: 12:19am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:And what point are U trying to mk? I ain't the one that believe that am gonna see them again or Am I? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 12:19am On Aug 26, 2016 |
this people won't stop amazing me o, when their Lord said body and soul in hell , he no mean when they die as usually preached anymore it means after the final judgement . |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by 4kings: 12:23am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:What do u mean by "hypocritical"? To us, they're dead(gone or no longer in existence), not tormented in Hell, for what they did in their short life. What do u also mean by "why didn't you kill yourself", don't u have emotions?, or it has been covered by Heaven and Hell? 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:24am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: Just show me where Jesus said it will be when they die. If it is about natural death then Jesus wouldnt be talking about sinners being destroyed in hell since both the righteous and the sinners die the natural death. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:27am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Deicide: You see how you reason? I mean dont you mourn their death? Why dont you join them to die since you love them so much? Why do you have to be relieved of the impact of their death and starts laughing and merrying again after sometime as if you never lost any? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 12:35am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: so all the I die and go to Hell story na wash, aftrall Jesus didn't say people will go to hell when they die . interesting . more evidence that you guys just give baseless assumptions e.g the one of body and soul is final judgement , the one of spirit/soul is for dead sinners
so sinners are now Destroyed in hell not burning forever ? man , in what form do people go to this hell ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:35am On Aug 26, 2016 |
americanigga: For God so love the WORLD that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER believeth in him will not perish but have everlasting life. Does this statement say JEWS? 1 Like |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:42am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: You are just trying to confuse things but its not me that you can do that to. I was trying to differentiate to you where body and soul comes into play. The story of Lazarus and the rich man is a clear case of the dead sinner being tormented. That is the soul/spirit. The body remains in the grave and decompose to be made alive at the second resurrection for judgment and eternal torment. If you like pretend as if you dont understand the difference i am drawing. My points are clear. They are tormented in hell fire. The reach man in hell said he is in torment. Jesus said it is a place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. At another point he described it as a place of eternal torment.Which destruction is worse than eternal torment anyway? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by EyeHateGod: 12:47am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:Like I said what point are U trying to make? How does it relate to after life? How does it relate to what I said? If I morn my lost ones here I know I won't see them again but U as a Christian know U would see them again weather in hell or in heaven but what if U mk heaven and they are in hell? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by EyeHateGod: 12:50am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 12:54am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Really, that is the soul/spirit ? But the text said the richman has a tongue and could taste water , . a spirit having a tongue, tongue a body part ! Touch your tongue, is it flesh or spirit ?
Body and soul in hell , he said " both" .. Not that soul go first and body join later , BODY AND soul in hell - Matthew 10:28 . its clear and direct . in another instance he said something along its better to have a body part gone than HAVE YOUR Whole Body in hell ! If that's the case, the body of humans should go to hell when it dies . is that happening ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 12:56am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: @ bold , your imaginary souls HAVE TEETH ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 12:58am On Aug 26, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: And did they receive him or kill him? Then when he resurrected from the dead and said go ye into the world and preach the gospel to ALL NATIONS baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy ghost, didnt you read that one and the numerous other places he spoke about his mission to the world? You didnt also read the ones that Paul wrote? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 1:01am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: You think your soul is just one shapeless thing different from you? Then you are missing it bigtime. Its exactly you as you are but not in the physical body. Thats just the difference. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by EyeHateGod: 1:02am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim:Paul contradict Jesus a lot Some of those things Jesus Never said! It was just inserted there. Go ye into the world? Was Jesus aware of a continent called Africa?? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:03am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Mtchew, Teeth is not physical ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 1:05am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: I have given you the difference . You can keep pretending not to understand it at your own peril. I am not begging you to believe. Your spirit appears exactly as you are but the difference is that its not in the physical body. Your spirit is not different from you. It is the real you thats why when it leaves, your body becomes motionless and dead. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:09am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: touch your tongue , is it Flesh or spirit ? Am not surprised though, too much of watching nollywood video editing of ghosts is clearly seen @ bold |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 1:16am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: Oh so in your belief a spirit is not supposed to have a tongue. How come the angels speak? They are spirits. God is a spirit, how come he speaks? Satan is a spirit how come he talks and will be tormented with his angels at last in the lake of fire? The demons that Jesus cast out in one the mad men he encountered screamed and asked Jesus why he has come to torment them. But demons are spirits. How come that some people that Jesus cast out demons from them when the demons were leaving they tore the persons garment and pushed him down. But they are spirits. |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:20am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Show me one single place in your bible that said this people u mention have tongue ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 1:26am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: O yeah now you are caught in the web i can see. You are now looking for cheap way of escape. Can you go through my post again then read what you wrote here to yourself and listen to yourself pls? I have clearly shown you that spirits can be tormented but you can keep pretending that you aint seeing it to your own peril. I am not forcing you to believe though |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by MizJanet(f): 1:29am On Aug 26, 2016 |
honourhim: Provide proof ? o yeah you are caught in the web, is that what I asked you ? Touch your tongue, is it Flesh or spirit ? |
Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by honourhim: 1:38am On Aug 26, 2016 |
MizJanet: I have told you that your spirit is exactly you but not in the physical. Asking me about tongue as if its not part of you makes no sense. And may be you can explain to me how a spirit (God, angels etc.) can talk well without tongue. |
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