honeyguy:

i frankly understand what y'all saying about this country. i think one of the major problems we have in Nigeria is that we are not exposed! alot of you complaining about NIGERIA getting worse and all that are obviously not exposed. most nigerians just go to school and gather degrees like note books but lack the understanding of what is going on in the real world. i saw someone comparing nigeria to china, fyi china has more poverty than nigeria. USA known as one of the worlds superpower country has begers on the street just as nigeria does, usa owes $12,250,000,000,000 while nigeria only owes $9,132,000,000 big difference.if you have been opportuned to visit north america, you'll understand that despite the fact that they seem better than nigeria, you will understand that its a credit world. you live and wake up in credits. why do you think that lots of foreingh investors want to invest in nigeria and canada? they are smart to understand that there is insecurity and lack electricity, yet they still wanna invest in nigeria. majority of the people complaining about nigeria would get visas to the so called developed countries to find out that the so called developed countries are not bed of roses; most of them result in fraud to survive. in economics, there are major objectives of government, they are mostly growth rate and equity. in the real world, is easier for a camel to pass through the needle than for an over populated country to attain equity. the economic growth rate of nigeria is 5.3, usa 1.1, south africa 3.2 big difference. of a truth our major problem is leadership and that is making nigeria lack behind but think about nigerian market, one of the best. nigeria is not as bad as people think, majorty of these so called developed countries only deceive people with the good parts of their land but when you actually find out the other side, you will appreciate nigeria, if you see majority of the jobs pople do in these so called developed countries, where they live, you will appreciate nigeria. most nigerians abroad are not happy in those developed countries but cannot go back home because of shame. imagine 7yrs ago in toronto, an ex room mate of mine, a nigerian was sick and the doctors told him he had only six months to live, his friends were ready to buy his ticket to nigeria so atleast he could see his family before he dies, he refused claiming that he rather die in toronto than to face the shame of not acuiring anything all his 10yrs abroad. yet he's in a developed country. let us change our ways from corruption and pray for our leaders and nigeria wll be great again

honsule:

we over blow our problems out of proportion.IF Nigeria is a failure @ 49 then you too a failure.The question is:what are u doing in your own ways to better things in this country.All fingers are not equal so,stop all these comparisons with USA,UK,China etc.Nigeria is just unique.No country like Naija.
NAIJA 4 LIFE.

honeyguy:

i frankly understand what y'all saying about this country. i think one of the major problems we have in Nigeria is that we are not exposed! alot of you complaining about NIGERIA getting worse and all that are obviously not exposed. most nigerians just go to school and gather degrees like note books but lack the understanding of what is going on in the real world. i saw someone comparing nigeria to china, fyi china has more poverty than nigeria. USA known as one of the worlds superpower country has begers on the street just as nigeria does, usa owes $12,250,000,000,000  while nigeria only owes $9,132,000,000 big difference.if you have been opportuned to visit north america, you'll understand that despite the fact that they seem better than nigeria, you will understand that its a credit world. you live and wake up in credits. why do you think that lots of foreingh investors want to invest in nigeria and canada? they are smart to understand that there is insecurity and lack electricity,  yet they still wanna invest in nigeria. majority of the people complaining about nigeria would get visas to the so called developed countries to find out that the so called developed countries are not bed of roses; most of them result in fraud to survive. in economics, there are major objectives of government, they are mostly growth rate and equity. in the real world, is easier for a camel to pass through the needle than for an over populated country to attain equity. the economic growth rate of nigeria is 5.3, usa 1.1, south africa 3.2 big difference. of a truth our major problem is leadership and that is making nigeria lack behind but think about nigerian market, one of the best. nigeria is not as bad as people think, majorty of these so called developed countries only deceive people with the good parts of their land but when you actually find out the other side, you will appreciate nigeria, if you see majority of the jobs pople do in these so called developed countries, where they live, you will appreciate nigeria. most nigerians abroad are not happy in those developed countries but cannot go back home because of shame. imagine 7yrs ago in toronto, an ex room mate of mine, a nigerian was sick and the doctors told him he had only six months to live, his friends were ready to buy his ticket to nigeria so atleast he could see his family before he dies, he refused claiming that he rather die in toronto than to face the shame of not acuiring anything all his 10yrs abroad. yet he's in a developed country. let us change our ways from corruption and pray for our leaders and nigeria wll be great again

Connoisseur:

I refuse to accept that we ve not achieved anything in our 49years. Nigeria has achieved more at 49 than most of the countries we call developed achieved at 70. We re not progressing as expected but we ll get there. All we need is a set of determined leaders to get us there. Long live Nigeria.

Nigeria has achieved more at 49 than most of the countries we call developed achieved at 70.

bidemi12:

@honeyguy well i must say that your arguement is well composed and somewhat logical but in some areas you made conjectures based on hearsay and not from direct experience. First of all i believe the Nigerians that are complaining are very much justified in doing so. There is no reason why we should be living in abject povery as we are right now. we are too blessed for that. 2) Granted America is owing money but at least we know what they are using the money for. Can you say the same of our county? I have lived here for years and i have never witnessed a minute of power failure. 3)Why in the first place will i want to live in another man's land if not for a better life for me and my family? And why wont i when the leadership in my country is stiffling me? 4)Apart from the value of the currency which is a goldmine back home, America represents the opportunity to become whatever and whoever you want to be. The whole society is structured in such a way that whether you like it or not you are encouraged to advance yourself to succeed. can you say the same about our beloved country? The credit system you mentioned applies only to Americans because that is their culture. I am a Nigerian with a background which taught me to save up for whatever i need. so why should i take credit? why should i buy a house when i can build one back home? why should i buy a new car when i can buy one cheaper at an auction. My point being that because a Nigerian lives abroad does not mean he forgets where he comes from. 5) the reason why people come here and achieve nothing is simply because America is not a lawless country. People come here with visitor visa and decide to stay. Big mistake. with that kind of visa nobody will employ you or rent an apartment for you or allow you to open an account. Ask anyone who has papers if he has achieved anything and see the answer you will get. Abject lesson, do not come here if you do not have the correct papers. And like i said before why would i want to come here in the first place if not for the situation back home. The investors you mentioned are business men. If we as Nigerians cannot see our potential does not mean others cant. When they make their profits do you think they keep it in our banks? of course not. They take it back home. No one in their right minds will ever compare Nigeria to a place like Ghana not to talk of America. God punish all those leaders who have put us in this situatuon

globatop:

The problem of our country lies in implementation of LAW. What exactly will change the mindset of any youth when those that has been embezling money or run bad government (since 1960) are still walking the street freely.   Knowing fully well that they have been deprived of their legitimate social ammenities, after fighting tooth and nail to get to power, youth will even do worse.

The EFCC boss once said pple seeking public office should be examined pscharatically, that statement really mean that our present political leaders' sanity is questionable.
Think about that.

Oluschenco:

Nigeria has achieved unity, I mean people thought Nigeria should have fallen/divided by now.

Ajike:

somebody said this and I qoute: can Nigerians manage anyting? Oyinbos managed the country before 1960s, and we had roads, railway, telephone, running water, clean gutters, GRAs, ECN, well matained colonia buildings, a fantastic civil service (almost curruption free), a populance with good values, good government hsopitals, a good educational system (primary and secondary) and a first class university. Now what do we have? Bank Thieves and the most corrupt management team both in the civil service and the private sector. Look at the multinationals - Oyinbos have taken thier companies back before Nigerians ruin them - Unilever, Nestle, Cadbury, Nigerian Breweries, Guinnes,, P&G etc. Where there are no proper Oyinbos, they bring us Indians or some other Kora. Big shame! At 49, the country is still retarded. Good people of a Great nation, we can still make it. 2011 is around the corner let us salvage this country 2gether

Nezan:

@poster, you should have started by listing out your personal achievements at your age . . .

bidemi12:

@honeyguy   well i must say that your arguement is well composed and somewhat logical but in some areas you made conjectures based on hearsay and not from direct experience. First of all i believe the Nigerians that are complaining are very much justified in doing so. There is no reason why we should be living in abject povery as we are right now. we are too blessed for that. 2) Granted America is owing money but at least we know what they are using the money for. Can you say the same of our county? I have lived here for years and i have never witnessed a minute of power failure. 3)Why in the first place will i want to live in another man's land if not for a better life for me and my family? And why wont i when the leadership in my country is stiffling me? 4)Apart from the value of the currency which is a goldmine back home, America represents the opportunity to become whatever and whoever you want to be. The whole society is structured in such a way that whether you like it or not you are encouraged to advance yourself to succeed. can you say the same about our beloved country? The credit system you mentioned applies only to Americans because that is their culture. I am a Nigerian with a background which taught me to save up for whatever i need. so why should i take credit? why should i buy a house when i can build one back home? why should i buy a new car when i can buy one cheaper at an auction. My point being that because a Nigerian lives abroad does not mean he forgets where he comes from. 5) the reason why people come here and achieve nothing is simply because America is not a lawless
country. People come here with visitor visa and decide to stay. Big mistake. with that kind of visa nobody will employ you or rent an apartment for you or allow you to open an account. Ask anyone who has papers if he has achieved anything and see the answer you will get. Abject lesson, do not come here if you do not have the correct papers. And like i said before why would i want to come here in the first place if not for the situation back home. The investors you mentioned are business men. If we as Nigerians cannot see our potential does not mean others cant. When they make their profits do you think they keep it in our banks? of course not. They take it back home. No one in their right minds will ever compare Nigeria to a place like Ghana not to talk of America. God punish all those leaders who have put us in this situatuon

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@honeyguy,I agree with u. The fact that nigeria has not achieved anything at 49 is OLD NEWS.I believe like me, most people here have been complaining about the state of the nation since they could talk but for me I have quit complaining cause nothing has changed. The problem and solution of the situation naija is LEADERSHIP but how can we have good leaders when we don't have good people. Our nation is filled with civil servants who are corrupt, students who indulge in exam malpractice instead of reading their books,people who encourage lying and stealing(Yes! we encourage stealing because if your brother becomes the local govt chairman and does not build a mansion in 6 months you would consider him stupid. Yes! we encourage stealing because we all see this nation as a cake and are waiting patiently to get our own piece. We have the mentality of NOW NOW, SHARP SHARP the man who steals the most is the big boy .So, ask me why we will not have youths in prisons abroad when our mentality supports stealing and everything corrupt). The fact that we are not in leadership does not make us saints as we all share the same mentality. Whether we like it or not, it is the citizenry that would take up the leadership so if we don't start changing our mindset now, we will continue suffer under bad leadership as an ordinary citizen today would become a leader tomorrow. GOD BLESS NAIJA.

Louisidowu:

we've been described as a suffering and smiling nation but what can we possibly do,

Nigeria is actually dancing backwards 49 year after independence, and its a fact no matter how much of rebranding we feign doing!

gbagyiza:

A fool at 40 is a fool forever! I think all the shame should go to the so-called leaders, the prosperity will not forgive them for their unhuman contributions to the retrogression of this country. They should all be ashamed of themselves. What have they achieved?