MrGerald:
They would not have been guilty sin if I had not come and spoken to them; as it is, they no longer have any excuse for their sin John 15:22 and John 15:24a, what do you think on this?.

Thank you. Jesus was saying that he had spoken to men about their sin and they have no more excuse.

How did he speak? one would ask; He spoke through the Law. Before the law, men where sinners but were not guilty.

Why where they not guilty? Because there was no law that made them accountable for their sins. But when the Law came, men then realised there was something wrong with them.

The Law was holy and perfect but the law brought the knowledge of sin and slayed us. The law declared us guilty.

Romans 7:5-25.

That LAW was the voice of Jesus. If He had not spoken, we would not be guilty. But with the law, we have no excuse.

andycoal40:


errant nonsense.....

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An2elect2:
Thank you. Jesus was saying that he had spoken to men about their sin and they have no more excuse.

How did he speak? one would ask; He spoke through the Law. Before the law, men where sinners but were not guilty.

Why where they not guilty? Because there was no law that made them accountable for their sins. But when the Law came, men then realised there was something wrong with them.

The Law was holy and perfect but the law brought the knowledge of sin and slayed us. The law declared us guilty.

Romans 7:5-25.

That LAW was the voice of Jesus. If He had not spoken, we would not be guilty. But with the law, we have no excuse.

And what abt those who have not heard of Jesus and his message? anyway thank you.

malvisguy212:
NO. Everything begin with christ and end with Him. The law was reveal to us for learning purpose, paul say this in romans. Christ is the ONLY way, that's why many religious talk highly of Him but NOT knowing who He really is.

so after rapture how would doz who ddnt accept d mark go to heaven or a person who had been born b4 christ or who havnt heard anything about christ

Nothing

Religion is a fantasy

Other Worlds have been prepared to receive each Soul after the Death of its Earthly Body — Our Destination justly depends on the state of our Souls at that time, how we have spent our Allotted time on Earth, and what is yet to be accomplished in us on the Other Side.

Which of these Worlds {Regions or Mansions} awaits them depends upon the state of each Soul at the closing of its window of earthly time. Each of these Worlds provides exactly what is necessary for the status of the Souls who come there, where each Soul's redemption progressively continues, as the Soul cooperates, until purgation is completed and passage onward is made for it, to return with ALL Souls who are to be brought back to their original Nativity.

http://www.passtheword.org/GOSPEL-REDISCOVERY/lead-theafterlife.htm

https://www.nairaland.com/3288251/what-awaits-human-soul-after

Thank You o.p dese are what our pastors should be dissecting every sunday instead of tithe everyday. God help me, but what would happen to the millions of Saudi's who have never seen a bible before? the million north koreans who are in a close economy with no religion? will they also burn because they didnt accept Christianity? God didn't create this people in THAT LOCATION, to destroy them eventually. there has to be an explanation

EyeHateGod:
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I dont think Christ would do that

Does this mean that our great great great grandfathers in Nigeria who existed before the missionaries came here will go to hell? Was it their fault that they were born at that time?



And I know that morality then was higher than now. Virginity was something to be proud of, then. And trust me, if they catch you stealing someone's yam then, just say goodbye to your right arm

Fast forward to this modern era, but to some islamic parts of the world where getting news from the foreign media is a luxury and so they have no chance of being evangelized. Will a Muslim who has a good heart go to hell because of his 'ignorance'?. Will a child born in Saudi Arabia who dies at the age of 7 go to hell because he's a Muslim??

I just think that Christ would judge those that haven't heard of the Gospel according to their consciences

EyeHateGod:
@bolded Ain't heard of that b4

I TIRE OOOO

lmao , why do you people do this, arguing what you don't understand.please y'all should stop this.
it's pathetic.

Is there anybody that has not heard the gospel? I think the problem is believing not hearing...

malvisguy212:
Thank you bro for your wonderful post, what about Luke 12:47-48 ? the parable seem to point to two different people. those who know the will of God but did not do it and those who did not known God's will. Their punishment is different.

You will notice that the passage speaks of both servants being under the same Lord and the passage there speaks of reward for servants and their obedience to the Lord's will. Hence we may not apply it to the Gospel and the lost

malvisguy212:
Will all those people who have never heard of Jesus Christ be sent to hell? First we must note that the Bible says God will judge all people
righteously. It seems Their would be STRICT judgment to those who REJECT the Gospel than those who have never heard of it.

14 For when Gentiles who do not have the
Law do INSTINCTIVELY THE THINGS OF THE LAW,
these, not having the Law, are a law to
themselves,
15 in that THEY SHOW the work of the Law
WRITTEN IN THEIR HEART, their conscience bearing
witness and their thoughts alternately accusing
or else defending them,
Their are two type of people here standing for judgment here, those who know God's will but reject it and those who does not know it or here about it at all.

In conclusion; I know many christians believe that anyone who did not hear the gospel is condemn to hell, but scripture say otherwise.

This is one of the many reasons why christianity is a joke...
This creates a lotta problems

Problem #1: God makes getting into heaven more difficult for some than others

If a man is born to Christian parents in a Christian
culture, and he violates one of God’s Laws, his
Christian culture tells him of the consequences and
provides him with a way out. He can sin a thousand
times, and still be forgiven...
But if a man is born away from any Christian
influence, then he is ignorant of how to obtain
forgiveness for his sin. When he breaks one of
God’s “natural laws,” he remains condemned,
because the escape route is not as obvious...
He'll still go to hell..
No one comes to the Father except through
me.
— John 14:6
what a Superb plan right?



Problem #2: God did not write all his laws on our hearts
Presumably, it would be just as easy for God to
write his entire message on our hearts as part of it.
In the same way newborns instinctively know how
to suckle their mothers, or birds know how to build
nests, we should instinctively know how to repent
through Jesus to his Father in order to receive forgiveness.
Why write a “natural law” on our hearts, and give
us the “gifts” of conscience and guilt, and then not
tell us exactly how to repent? And to whom? This
seems like an important detail to leave out.Why must the answer be delivered by an external
source? Missionaries wouldn’t even be necessary if
God would’ve written his entire message on our
hearts, and we wouldn’t have the confusion over
which missionaries were the ones to believe.?



Problem #3: How can we obey God’s natural laws when we’re not sure what they are?

If God has written a subset of his laws on our
hearts, what exactly are they? According to Romans 2:14-15, God’s laws are an
instinctive part of our conscience that accuse us
when we do wrong. So if we desired to make a list
of God’s Natural Laws, we might start by looking for
“instinctive” morals that most humans seem to
share. Also, violating these morals should result in a guilty conscience.
Let’s imagine we performed such a study and
found several behaviors that were universally
viewed as immoral, things like: Murder Rape Injuring others Lying Cheating Stealing Torture Infidelity Slavery and downloading movies and music illegally.
If we then began promoting this list as “God’s List
of Natural Laws,”
I can think of a few objections we
might encounter. Firstly, did these rules need to originate with a God,
or are they self-evident? All of these behaviors have
observable negative consequences, or we can
easily reason that we wouldn’t want others to do
these things to us as they hinder survival. If any reasonable person can
understand why such behaviors would be undesirable, do we really need God to write them
on our hearts?
Secondly, God’s Laws (according to the Bible)
sometimes contradict God’s Natural Laws. For example: Natural law tells us that killing healthy babies is
wrong, but God’s Law says it’s sometimes okay
(Gen. 7:21, Exodus 12:12, Psalm 137:9). Natural law tells us that owning and beating
slaves is wrong, but God’s Law provides us with
a how-to manual (Exodus 21). Natural law tells us it’s wrong to steal and rape,
but God’s Law says he may personally send men
to steal from you and rape you (Zechariah 14:2). Natural law also tells us it’s always wrong for a
man to rape a woman, and then to force her to
marry her rapist; but God’s Law says this is totally permissible (Deut. 22:28-29).
Third, feelings of guilt are often unreliable
measures of right and wrong.

For example, an anorexic girl may feel guilty about
eating a sandwich, but is she right? Is God using
guilt as a natural way of condemning her for
inappropriate behavior? Or does she feel guilty only
because she did something she believed was
wrong? And her mind is now wrestling with the logical contradiction?
Guilt seems to stem from what
we believe is wrong, and not what God says is
wrong, but if God’s Natural Law really exists,
should’t we only feel guilty for doing things that are
actually violations of God’s law? And finally, with regards to conscience, many early
cultures once independently reached the rather
natural conclusion that sun was a god. How did
they all “just know” this? Did God write this
message on the hearts of the Aztecs, Incas,
Egyptians, Greeks, Hindus, Persians, West Africans, Celtics and others? Did God guide their conscience
to this conclusion? How can we obey God’s “natural laws” when these
laws can be so misleading?

Akshow:
Modern Church, Monster Church.

Practices in the modern evangelical church that I will NEVER ever get over.

1. Comedy Shows or StandUp Comedy in Churches.
Is the Church about Jokes now?

2. Award/Dinner Nights in churches.
What happens to selfless christian service and heavenly rewards?

3. Bodyguards or Ushers in churches looking like FBI/CIA Agents running everywhere.
Is the church under siege? This really freaks me out.

4. POS Machines in churches.
Maybe worshippers should pay their offerings into a designated bank account the next Monday morning. It gives the church some replica of sacred sanity, rather than look like a glorified Casino. Or maybe churches are scared their 'magic' would wear off before Monday?

5. Pulpit looking too much like a Concert Stage. Too many light works and special effects.
What is our main attraction? Christ or the others?

6. Everybody speaks in tongues that no one understands, yet nobody interprets.
How am I encouraged or edified if you motivate me in Latin where I'm Yoruba?

7. Special King-size Seats for the Presiding Pastor and his Mrs.
Are you the Lord or Jesus?

8. Special Stooges who carry even the Pastor's mobile phones and wife's bag.
Are they amputees?

9. Sharing the grace with the guy/girl beside you in church, yet you leave in your car without offering him/her a lift to a nearby bus stop.
Why not share your car and keep your grace?

10. You've not paid your rent, fees or tax but your tithe never suffers.
Always remember: God is merciful, but your landlord or government is not.

There are simply too many abominable practices today in the modern church, fast evolving into a monster church. Too many to even remember. Do you Believers know any?


Selah.

u forget to add the major law of jesus...about not storing up treasures on earth but rather giving all you have to the poor...
Which pastors repeatedly disobey by preying on their gullible followers..scamming the poor and increasing their fat bank account..
Owning masses of assets private jets etc..but the masses cannot see this legal scam they are carrying out

Scholar8200:
You will notice that the passage speaks of both servants being under the same Lord and the passage there speaks of reward for servants and their obedience to the Lord's will. Hence we may not apply it to the Gospel and the lost

Very Good. You say the passage speak of reward for the servant and their obedience to God will. Alright, The same passage seems to imply that their are some servant who are not aware of God will, the passage prescribe lesser punishment for this servant. Does not this mean that their are different type of punishment in hell ? Those who know more are held in a higher degree of accountability and responsibility. If you know the truth about God and reject it, you will be punished more than someone who doesn’t yet know better.

Look at these three statements made by Jesus, all in the Gospel of John:

John 9:41
Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you
would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’
your sin remains.”
John 15:22
“If I had not come and spoken to them, they
would not have sin, but now they have no
excuse for their sin.”
John 15:24
“If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well.”

Over and over again, Jesus said knowledge of
the truth is important, and upon this knowledge sin is judged. The more you know, the more you should know better.
Thank you.

James actually advised we avoid being teachers of law because stiffer judgement awaits all preachers. That's why when I see people jumping into preaching and call themselves apostles, pastors and prophets, I wonder if they don't study the Bible. The first question God will ask will be "did you practiced what you preached? " and if the answer is "no", then sorry.

As a preacher, you are expected by God to be perfect and must not fall short. I envy the true evangelists who work day and night, travel long distances to ensure souls are won for Christ and they do all these without expecting reward from anyone but from God.

All what some people do this days is build a small buiding and call it "fire for fire temple" and claim they had a calling from God and their main aim is to extort their members and buy big cars.

Look, I tell you the truth. To work for God is not to work for fun. It's a job that comes with enormous responsibilty and must be done whole heartedly and selflessly.

Stop giving yourself headache guys, the Christian religion is a fraud



There's no heaven or hell anywhere