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Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by RedTarantula: 11:33am On Sep 15, 2016
There is a trend on nairaland I have observed.

Whenever there is a call for Biafra or any thread about Biafra, you will notice people shouting at Igbos asking why they want another war.

Some will even say they don't want another refugee situation, bla bla bla.

My question therefore is why is a call for separate existence seen as a call for war?

If a partner in a marriage says they want a divorce how is that seen as a call to take up knives and clubs to fight?

Someone educate me please.

Where have you heard people shouting 'One Germany, One Ghana, One Canada, etc' before?

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by agwom(m): 11:36am On Sep 15, 2016
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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Fidelismaria: 11:40am On Sep 15, 2016
undecided
warris dis one saying

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by kenny987(f): 11:50am On Sep 15, 2016
That's because there is the ignorance factor at work. Beyond that though is mischief in that they refuse to be honest and consciously address obvious problems that give rise to the calls for separation. They rather bullishly insist on an obviously unworkable solution and then throw in d fear factor to deliberately squelch the voices that need to be heard.

The primary questions that need to be addressed are: What is the basis of this unity? Where are the terms of agreement upon which we agree to be united? If there are none then can we discuss terms? What is d basis or procedure of power rotation? What are the terms of engagement to ensure peace and maximum productivity? Once these can be honestly addressed, we can be on our way to some semblance of development. While this being done, the fear of separation should be muted completely and that option must be on the table. If after terms are agreed upon one region or another is not satisfied, they should be free to step out without rancour!

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by RedTarantula: 11:50am On Sep 15, 2016
Fidelismaria:
undecided

warris dis one saying

Read again and ask God for some understanding of English language.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by ajaophobia(m): 11:54am On Sep 15, 2016
because the first one lead to war....

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Nkem4040: 11:54am On Sep 15, 2016
Because without One Nigeria, hunger will kill Hausa-Fulani and yorubaa. Remember yorubas are no different from Hausa-Fulani if you have lived in core south west states and see their living conditions . No difference except yorubas have used propaganda and media to hide their true backwardness. They know if One Nigeria ends, Yorubaa will be exposed as one of the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humanity.

The first two posters below you are Yorubas. You see how they rush enter this thread, it's because they know that their survival as a people depends on One Nigeria. Many of them carry Biaafra for head pass IPOB. Lol! In fact if you gave a knife to a yoruba to kill either Shekau Boko haram leader or Nnamdi Kanu, they kill Nnamdi Kanu without even blinking because again he is threatening their existence as a people...to end One Nigeria.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Omonigeriarere: 11:54am On Sep 15, 2016
RedTarantula:
There is a trend on nairaland I have observed.

Whenever there is a call for Biafra or any thread about Biafra, you will notice people shouting at Igbos asking why they want another war.

Some will even say they don't want another refugee situation, bla bla bla.

My question therefore is why is a call for separate existence seen as a call for war?

If a partner in a marriage says they want a divorce how is that seen as a call to take up knives and clubs to fight?

Someone educate me please.

Where have you heard people shouting 'One Germany, One Ghana, One Canada, etc' before?

What do you expect when the agitators behave like hooligans?

Even online here, you will be hearing statements like "We now have enough equipment to defeat FG" "PMB will think this is still the era of using cassava stick to fight Nigerian armies" etc 'Our dilector' even solicited for guns abroad while addressing Ibos in one of the video clips I watch on YouTube.

He who brings an ant-infested wood into the compound has indirectly invited lizard to festivity: get it right

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 11:59am On Sep 15, 2016
Because the first Biafra led to a war and millions lost their lives. We Nigerians are simply telling u biafrans the truth, there is no way u will not leave Nigeria without war, u can keep denying the fact. We owe the igbos nothing, u surrendered unconditionally, u surrendered without any condition. We did not promise u any territory to use to build Biafra after the war. That is why the Nigeria has every legitimacy to use brute force against u people. One other reason is that Nigeria see u people as weak, we already know if there is another war, u will never win, because u will never outgun the army, the worst that will happen is that the war will be prolonged for many years.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by attackgat: 12:02pm On Sep 15, 2016
It is part of the propaganda the Federal Government initiated after the war in other to silence Biafra. Biafra was made to represent war. Many people, even younger generation Igbos imbibed this false ideology to the extent that just mentioning Biafra, some will say you are calling for war. Remarkably, the Biafran agitation has always been a peaceful thing right from when Ojukwu declared it on 30th May 1967 to this day. Some silly people will say that Ojukwu started the war but when you remind them that it was Nigeria that came down to the East to start fighting, they have nothing to say. It has always been Nigeria that brought violence and war into the issue of Biafra. Not one Biafra agitator has ever been found with arms, but they are the ones who are at the recieving end of bullets of the Nigerian security agencies. Since the year 1999 when Uwazuruike formed MASSOB to this day, nobody has lost their life to Biafran agitators and protesters, but many have been gunned down by the Army and Police. It has always been Nigeria that brings violence and war into the issue of Biafra, all the time.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by CSTR2: 12:04pm On Sep 15, 2016
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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by attackgat: 12:07pm On Sep 15, 2016
Omonigeriarere:


What do you expect when the agitators behave like hooligans?

Even online here, you will be hearing statements like "We now have enough equipment to defeat FG" "PMB will think this is still the era of using cassava stick to fight Nigerian armies" etc 'Our dilector' even solicited for guns abroad while addressing Ibos in one of the video clips I watch on YouTube.

He who brings an ant-infested wood into the compound has indirectly invited lizard to festivity: get it right

This picture you posted, how do you know it is Biafran protesters? How do you know it's even in Nigeria? I have looked at that picture well and it could be anywhere in Africa.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 12:10pm On Sep 15, 2016
attackgat:
It is part of the propaganda the Federal Government initiated after the war in other to silence Biafra. Biafra was made to represent war. Many people, even younger generation Igbos imbibed this false ideology to the extent that just mentioning Biafra, some will say you are calling for war. Remarkably, the Biafran agitation has always been a peaceful thing right from when Ojukwu declared it on 30th May 1967 to this day. Some silly people will say that Ojukwu started the war but when you remind them that it was Nigeria that came down to the East to start fighting, they have nothing to say. It has always been Nigeria that brought violence and war into the issue of Biafra. Not one Biafra agitator has ever been found with arms, but they are the ones who are at the recieving end of bullets of the Nigerian security agencies. Since the year 1999 when Uwazuruike formed MASSOB to this day, nobody has lost their life to Biafran agitators and protesters, but many have been gunned down by the Army and Police. It has always been Nigeria that brings violence and war into the issue of Biafra, all the time.

Spot on. cool
Though I don't expect Arewaoduanistanis to understand the above.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Omonigeriarere: 12:12pm On Sep 15, 2016
attackgat:


This picture you posted, how do you know it is Biafran protesters? How do you know it's even in Nigeria? I have looked at that picture well and it could be anywhere in Africa.

Firstly, study the number of flat heads there.

Secondly, do their mode of dressing or appearance resemble that of Hausas or Yorubas?

Even you know within yourself that they are from the land of yeast.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Nkem4040: 12:12pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:
[s] Because the first Biafra led to a war and millions lost their lives. We Nigerians are simply telling u biafrans the truth, there is no way u will not leave Nigeria without war, u can keep denying the fact. We owe the igbos nothing, u surrendered unconditionally, u surrendered without any condition. We did not promise u any territory to use to build Biafra after the war. That is why the Nigeria has every legitimacy to use brute force against u people. One other reason is that Nigeria see u people as weak, we already know if there is another war, u will never win, because u will never outgun the army, the worst that will happen is that the war will be prolonged for many years. [/s]

Afonja as expected. If you you read my post above, you will understand why he is threatened. Let me tell you something Afonja...if there is ever another war Walahi talahi Hausa-Fulani will not sacrifice their own like they did in the first one were over 80% of fatalities on the Nigerian Military were Northerners. This time around, they must conscript by force Yorubaa men between the ages of 16-45. Since you so much love this One Nigeria, you must sacrifice also. Northerners know this and don't think you can sit back in the SW like in the first war while northerners were dying.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 12:16pm On Sep 15, 2016
CSTR2:
No nation can survive two civil wars. Not even the mighty soviet union.
This is 2016. A prolonged conflict due to seccession is not possible. The UN and co would sooner have a referendum than allow such madness to occur.
Just Read through your post now. You are a very ignorant human being. Talking about legitimacy and brute force against civilians.
I would see how much that brute force would help you against NATO invasion.
Lol, Ivory Coast just fought their second civil war not too long ago(2010-2011) but they re still together, maybe we should try a second one. Let us see who wins this one, hahahahah. Lol, keep dreaming waiting for NATO invasion, as if NATO invaded Chechnya when Putin fought a war with them in other to stop them from seceding (1999-2000) or as if The U.N or NATO intervened during the war between secessionist Western Sahara and Morocco. U go wait tire

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by allthingsgood: 12:22pm On Sep 15, 2016
Only ignorant unintelligent and naive individuals make noise about biafra. Many have no clue about this countries history but just join the few ignorant cretins to chant biafra. Wtf is that nonsense??

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:
Because the first Biafra led to a war and millions lost their lives. We Nigerians are simply telling u biafrans the truth, there is no way u will not leave Nigeria without war, u can keep denying the fact. We owe the igbos nothing, u surrendered unconditionally, u surrendered without any condition. We did not promise u any territory to use to build Biafra after the war. That is why the Nigeria has every legitimacy to use brute force against u people. One other reason is that Nigeria see u people as weak, we already know if there is another war, u will never win, because u will never outgun the army, the worst that will happen is that the war will be prolonged for many years.

No Sir,
First Biafra did not lead to any war.

It was Gowon who led Nigeria to war against Biafra

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by CSTR2: 12:31pm On Sep 15, 2016
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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Sep 15, 2016
The primary questions that need to be addressed are: What is the basis of this unity? Where are the terms of agreement upon which we agree to be united?
These questions really makes a lot of sense. Those who shouts "one Nigeria" should help answer this pls.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 12:38pm On Sep 15, 2016
allthingsgood:
Only ignorant unintelligent and naive individuals make noise about biafra. Many have no clue about this countries history but just join the few ignorant cretins to chant biafra. Wtf is that nonsense??

Go and sit down.

Its not by force to share a country with you lots.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 12:41pm On Sep 15, 2016
CSTR2:
That was not a civil war in ivory coast. More like an election skirmish. Besides, ivory coast does not have very vocal secessionists.
And now more self delusion - What correlation does Nigeria have Russia? Are you as strong, powerful or even united as Russia? Can you even compare putin to Nigerian leaders? Was Nigeria even as strong as Libya that fell to NATO invasion?.
You better be careful in that country. The UK just did a referendum, and the rest of the world would not sit by and allow a third world country with a genocidal dictator slaughtering people for exercising their rights.
Lol, u never see anything. Everybody knows Ivory Coast fought a civil war, because thousand died. How about u test buhari, then u can judge if he is man enough like Putin, or has an army that can be good enough like Putin army. And for ur information, there is no United Russia, even in Chechnya, there low level secessionist insurgency, and also there re autonomous regions in Russia that want secession since after the fall of the Soviet Union till now, but due to fear of Putin and the Russian army, they can't even try. The Chechnya-Russian war is like an example to them of what will happen to them if they dare Putin army by trying to secede. Also, is Morocco not a third world country located in Africa? Why did NATO and U.N not intervene in the war but allowed Morocco to kill and subdue the secessionist?. And for ur information, Buhari is not a genocidist, at least, the world does not recognize him as such, it's only u brainwashed biafrans that see him like that, just because he fought in a war that was NECESSARY.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 12:42pm On Sep 15, 2016
wizzyrich:
These questions really makes a lot of sense. Those who shouts "one Nigeria" should help answer this pls.

Their idea of "one Nigeria" is one built on injustice where they can achieve their selfish interests at the expense of others. It was never about patriotism to Nigeria, it's about what they stood to gain from Nigeria unity.

Ojukwu asked the same questions for Nigerian unity in Aburi. Those who stood to entrench injustice rejected all agreements reached at Aburi and went about screaming "One Nigeria".

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 12:43pm On Sep 15, 2016
wizzyrich:
These questions really makes a lot of sense. Those who shouts "one Nigeria" should help answer this pls.
U go ask that question tire. So it was until Buhari was elected president, that u now started asking this question. When Jonathan was there, u did not bother to ask on what basis would one nigerian be. Egbon, if u want Biafra, come and collect it, hahahahahahaha

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 12:46pm On Sep 15, 2016
Igboid:


Their idea of "one Nigeria" is one built on injustice where they can achieve their selfish interests at the expense of others. It was never about patriotism to Nigeria, it's about what they stood to gain from Nigeria unity.

Ojukwu asked the same questions for Nigerian unity in Aburi. Those who stood to entrench injustice rejected all agreements reached at Aburi and went about screaming "One Nigeria".
Lol, Ojukwu too was a selfish man, he want a Nigeria that will benefit only the easterners. The Aburi accord was more like telling other Nigerians that they have no right over the crude oil resources in the Niger delta. Ojukwu was selfish, he wanted confederation, he wanted greater autonomy over the oil resources, which means that the Nigerian government won't have any say over the crude resources.he only wanted the oil for u easterners alone . But we no agree. We all know that Nigeria will never agree to such deal. The oil resources must be shared among everyone. No wonder u people are so selfish
Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by CSTR2: 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2016
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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:

Lol, u never see anything. Everybody knows Ivory Coast fought a civil war, because thousand died. How about u test buhari, then u can judge if he is man enough like Putin, or has an army that can be good enough like Putin army. And for ur information, there is no United Russia, even in Chechnya, there low level secessionist insurgency, and also there re autonomous region in Russia that want secession, but due to fear of Putin and the Russian army, they can't even try. The Chechnya-Russian war is like an example to them of what will happen to them if they dare Putin army by trying to secede. Also, is Morocco not a third world country located in Africa? Why did NATO and U.N not intervene in the war but allowed Morocco to kill and subdue the secessionist?. And for ur information, Buhari is not a genocidist, at least, the world does not recognize him as such, it's only u brainwashed biafrans that see him like that, just because he fought in a war that was NECESSARY.

You are silly to be comparing Russia with Nigeria. Russia is a world power capable of manufacturing military weapons, Nigeria is a failed state that imports even tooth picks.

You needed foreign support for continuous supply of weapons to suppress Biafra the last time around. You can't defeat Biafra without those foreign support as they are more determined than you.

Foreign support don't come cheap,the Caucasian powers or their Asian brothers are not father Christmas,they won't provide you with those weapons without concessions on your own part, you will need to sell off the soul of your already failed colonial entity to keep them on your side, and even with that, it won't be easy for you to put down Biafrans, but even if you succeed, you will end up with even more useless state than you have today, with your Caucasian masters squeezing tight on your neck with concessions you desperately made to them during your war time desperation. You will never realize your utopian African Giant status, but instead will remain a perpetual vassal state.

Damn, as far back as 60's you needed to concession off Bakassi to Cameroun to win them over your side even with a Fulani Cameroonian president on seat. I bet this time around, you might need to concession off the entire Adamawa and Taraba states to Cameroon to win them over, now that the Fulani there are no longer in power. cheesy grin
They could even go for the jugular and demand for oil rich Akwa Ibom and Cross river states. After all, there is no love found between Nigerians and Cameroonians, and Cameroon could as well capitalize on your desperation again, like they did before.

If a Second civil war don't disintegrate Nigeria, it will render her entirely useless for eternity.
Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Nobody: 12:54pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:

U go ask that question tire. So it was until Buhari was elected president, that u now started asking this question. When Jonathan was there, u did not bother to ask on what basis would one nigerian be. Egbon, if u want Biafra, come and collect it, hahahahahahaha
Incase you were in Zimbabwe during Jonathans tenure, I need to tell you that the call for Biafra didn't start of recent. Radio Biafra was broadcasting live during Jonathans tenure and people were already being enlightened about Biafra withing the period under discussion.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by victorvezx(m): 12:56pm On Sep 15, 2016
Igboid:


You are silly to be comparing Russia with Nigeria. Russia is a world power capable of manufacturing military weapons, Nigeria is a failed state that imports even tooth picks.

You needed foreign support for continuous supply of weapons to suppress Biafra the last time around. You can't defeat Biafra without those foreign support as they are more determined than you.

Foreign support don't come cheap,the Caucasian powers or their Asian brothers are not father Christmas,they won't provide you with those weapons without concessions on your own part, you will need to sell off the soul of your already failed colonial entity to keep them on your side, and even with that, it won't be easy for you to put down Biafrans, but even if you succeed, you will end up with even more useless state than you have today, with your Caucasian masters squeezing tight on your neck with concessions you desperately made to them during your war time desperation. You will never realize your utopian African Giant status, but instead will remain a perpetual vassal state.

If a Second civil war don't disintegrate Nigeria, it will render her entirely useless for eternity.
Lol, all what u said here is bull-shit, u are simply agreeing to the fact that Nigeria will defeat Biafra the second time again. But it will be bloody. No entity is useless as far as there are people, there is hope. just like every country that experienced war, we will start rebuilding again after war, while u biafrans will be busy burying ur dead, and getting bitter at the fact that u lost a second civil war with the same enemy.

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Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 1:01pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:

Lol, Ojukwu too was a selfish man, he want a Nigeria that will benefit only the easterners. The Aburi accord was more like telling other Nigerians that they have no right over the crude oil resources in the Niger delta. Ojukwu was selfish, he wanted confederation, he wanted greater autonomy over the oil resources, which means that the Nigerian government won't have any say over the crude resources.he only wanted the oil for u easterners alone . But we no agree. We all know that Nigeria will never agree to such deal. The oil resources must be shared among everyone. No wonder u people are so selfish

Lol! Atleast you are truthful to yourself. The reason for your demonic attachment the East is crude oil.

Well, Ndiigbo could care less about your attachments to crude oil. If you rhetorics are right, I wager that Isokos, Urhobos, Itsekiris, and even Ijaws are eager to continue enjoying your failed union with you.

As for Ndiigbo, we rejected you in 60's and NOTHING on earth will ever change how we see you lots.
Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Ngozi123(f): 1:03pm On Sep 15, 2016
RedTarantula:


Read again and ask God for some understanding of English language.
grin grin grin

To answer your question, it's because they have been conditioned to reason like uncivilised persons. What civilised country would automatically believe that calls for secession equals war? I'm racking my brains here trying to think of one.
Re: Why Is The Call For Biafra Always Seen As A Call For War By Nigerians? by Igboid: 1:04pm On Sep 15, 2016
victorvezx:

Lol, all what u said here is bull-shit, u are simply agreeing to the fact that Nigeria will defeat Biafra the second time again. But it will be bloody. No entity is useless as far as there are people, there is hope. just like every country that experienced war, we will start rebuilding again after war, while u biafrans will be busy burying ur dead, and getting bitter at the fact that u lost a second civil war with the same enemy.

You are silly. Nigeria won't defeat Biafrans. Foreign powers will, and Nigerian would have to pay them with the future of Nigeria to do so

So in the end , everyone loses out.

In other words, Nigeria can't win Biafra.

Nigeria is incapable of winning Biafra, not when she can't manufacture tooth picks. grin

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