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If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 4:23pm On Sep 19, 2016
Do you remember Cinderella?

That blond princess whose miserable life was instantly transformed by her gorgeous-smooth-move-well-dressed-billionaire prince charming. Well, I never knew her. She sounds like an evil step-daughter.

But I do know Cindy.

Cindy’s friends were telling her about this guy she might like. His name was Ryan, and he looked like David Beckham.

The next night Cindy and her friends went to one of his professional games. Her friends introduced them afterwards.

He took her hand, kissed it, and looked into her eyes.

“Next time we meet, it will be just you and me,” he said.

That did it. She was swept off her feet.

As they got to know each other, the intensity grew. They seemed to deeply understand one another. They enjoyed the same things; food, working out, and exotic beach towns. They both thought, the slipper fits!

It was like a damn Disney movie.

After a few months, Ryan became moody. Actually, he had always been moody, but it didn’t show at first. This bothered Cindy. She wanted to talk about what was bothering him, but he got irritated when she tried.

“Just leave me alone.”

Cindy felt shut out.

Once in a while they planned a romantic night on the town.

Sometimes Ryan didn’t want to go. Other times, Cindy would endure his silence over the candlelit dinner. Anytime she would say something, he would show his disappointment by saying something like, “I thought you knew me.”

Their friends, knowing how much they cared about each other, urged them to work on this problem. But the couple felt sad and frustrated.

Why should we work on it? If we were right for each other, we would be able to understand each other’s needs. We wouldn’t have any problems.

The relationship ended.

One of the most destructive beliefs for any relationship is this thought process.

“If we need to work at it, there’s something seriously wrong with our relationship.” — Aaron Beck
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 4:27pm On Sep 19, 2016
In essence, choosing a romantic partner is choosing a set of problems.

Believing that being compatible with your partner means everything should come naturally is a sure way to naturally end any relationship you will have.

“Every [relationship] demands an effort to keep it on the right track; there is constant tension . . . between forces that hold you together and those that tear you apart.” — John Gottman.

The belief that relationship success should not need effort robs relationships of the fire they need to burn. So many relationships turn their hot and passionate fire of love into ashes, just because the couple believes that being in love means never having to do anything demanding.

This toxic belief shows up in two different ways:

Mind Reading

Part of the no-effort relationship fairy-tale is the belief that couples can read each other’s minds. My partner knows what I think, feel, and need, and I know the same for them.

The truth is, all couples are incapable of reading minds. Just the other day, my girlfriend said, “Kyle, I need more space.”

I’ve heard that before.

My heart dropped. I went into shock. Was our relationship doomed? I couldn’t believe it. I thought everything was going so well. We were laughing until our stomachs hurt, kissing all the time . . . what did I do wrong?

Finally I summoned the courage to ask, “What do you mean?”

“Your fat ass is taking up too much of our chair,” she said as she kissed me.

Oh. I’m so glad I asked.

In Nicholas Epley’s book, Mindwise, he asked couples to guess their partner’s self-worth, abilities, and preferences on house chores on a scale from 1-5. He found that couples were accurate 44% of the time, despite believing they were right 82% of the time.

Even more time together doesn’t help. Rather, longer-term relationships “create an illusion of insight that far surpasses actual insight.”

The quality of your relationship depends on your ability to understand your partner, and vice versa. The secret to understanding each other better seems not to come from mind reading, but through the hard work of putting our partners in a position where they can tell us their minds openly and honestly.

It’s quite delusional to believe in mind reading. But it makes sense when many couples who believe this also believe that a couple should share 100% of each other’s view on everything

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Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 4:30pm On Sep 19, 2016
We Agree on Everything

This belief ties well with reading minds. If you can read each other’s mind, then you don’t need communication; you can just assume your partner sees the world the way you do.

Even though you two speak the same language, you both grew up in a sea of different experiences. You were given separate dictionaries on life. This makes it impossible to share ALL of each other’s assumptions and expectations.

Take Leah and David, for instance. They had just finished undergrad and were planning on getting married. David, a minimalist, went and signed a lease for a small apartment outside of Portland.

He thought she’d be delighted.

When he opened the door, she flipped.

A couple may agree on traditional roles or have similar views, but that’s very different from assuming it as an entitlement.

Leah had been living in tiny-ass apartments her entire life. Married couples were supposed to live in nice houses with new cars in the garage.

She felt betrayed. He felt confused. The relationship didn’t last much longer.

A couple may agree on traditional roles or have similar views, but that’s very different from assuming it as an entitlement.

A no-effort relationship is not a great relationship; it’s a doomed relationship. It takes effort to communicate and understand each other. Love takes work. It takes work to expose and resolve conflicting beliefs and expectations.

However, that doesn’t mean there is no “happily ever after.”

It’s more like, “they worked happily ever after.”

Originally published at kylebenson.net

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kyle-benson/if-love-requires-work-was_b_9974628.html

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Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 4:31pm On Sep 19, 2016
So peeps, what do we say?
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by Nobody: 5:00pm On Sep 19, 2016
Its delusional to say that a great relationship doesn't require work. It does, but the magnitude of the work depends on the individuals invovled.

For instance: Ability to tolerate my partner's excesses is work.

Making adjustments in my life style or say work schedules just to make to make time for US is work.

Everything good requires work.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 5:02pm On Sep 19, 2016
Adaobi12:
Its delusional to say that great relationship doesn't require work. It does, but the magnitude of the work depends on the individual invovled.

For instance: Ability to tolerate my partner's excesses is work.

Making re adjustments in my life style or say work schedules just to make to make time for US is work.

Everything good requires work.

Hmmm....

Good one cool
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Sep 19, 2016
The guy is moody, so what? All of us are moody to some extent. Do your thing - that is if you have a life outside the relationship - and let him be. He wil come back when his mood changes and since it changes quickly, that's why we call people moody, he will be back in the blink of an eye. wink

How annyoing can a partner be who demands you to be the way they need you to be instead of letting you be the way you are. They were not born to please you 24/7. Their job is to please themselves in the first place and it is your job to please yourself. And when you to become happy, the relationship will just flow and you will be able to give each other more than any of you ever dreamed of.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by byvan03: 8:19pm On Sep 19, 2016
The real 'work work on it' version of marriage, I don't really know what to say about it but am sure it's terribly exhausting.

A little effort to please here and there is cool but the word 'work' makes the whole thing sound torturous mehnn...
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by Nobody: 8:26pm On Sep 19, 2016
byvan03:
The real 'work work on it' version of marriage, I don't really know what to say about it but am sure it's terribly exhausting.

A little effort to please here and there is cool but the word 'work' makes the whole thing sound torturous mehnn...

There's is finally someone who understands me on NL. smiley

When people talk about marriage here, it all sounds so serious, exhausting and like a fun-free zone. undecided

And then they demand a trophy for giving up on ease and fun. cheesy
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by byvan03: 8:36pm On Sep 19, 2016
Mindfulness:


There's is finally someone who understands me on NL. smiley

When people talk about marriage here, it all sounds so serious, exhausting and like a fun-free zone. undecided

And then they demand a trophy for giving up on ease and fun. cheesy




I wonder how one will breathe with all that seriousness.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Sep 20, 2016
byvan03:


I wonder how one will breathe with all that seriousness.

It's a matter of choice. I will rather feel light-hearted. wink

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Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2016
byvan03:
The real 'work work on it' version of marriage, I don't really know what to say about it but am sure it's terribly exhausting.

A little effort to please here and there is cool but the word 'work' makes the whole thing sound torturous mehnn...

Marriage is hard work.. And they wonder why people run away from it.

And what is work in two people in love try to make each other happy?

The picture of marriage usually painted here is not palatable at all

Mindfulness:
The guy is moody, so what? All of us are moody to some extent. Do your thing - that is if you have a life outside the relationship - and let him be. He wil come back when his mood changes and since it changes quickly, that's why we call people moody, he will be back in the blink of an eye. wink
How annyoing can a partner be who demands you to be the way they need you to be instead of letting you be the way you are. They were not born to please you 24/7. Their job is to please themselves in the first place and it is your job to please yourself. And when you to become happy, the relationship will just flow and you will be able to give each other more than any of you ever dreamed of.


I agree with you that happy singles make happier spouses.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Sep 20, 2016
bukatyne:


Marriage is hard work.. And they wonder why people run away from it.

And what is work in two people in love try to make each other happy?

The picture of marriage usually painted here is not palatable at all



I agree with you that happy singles make happier spouses.

Ask Ryan. Poor guy has not learned how to be chronically happy, hence his mood swings, and Cindy expects him to save her.
How can he make her happy if he is not happy himself? And why would she expect him to do something for two people, that she can't do for one of them?

A good number of people find it hard to be constantly happy. Don't make these people responsible for your happiness on top of that because even if they were constantly happy, your own happiness is an inside job first and foremost. If you can't do it for yourself, nobody will. You are the person you spend all of your time with. wink
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by 5minsmadness: 5:50pm On Sep 20, 2016
bukatyne:
So peeps, what do we say?

Nice.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by bukatyne(f): 12:45pm On Sep 21, 2016
5minsmadness:


Nice.


What's nice?

The OP?
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by 5minsmadness: 12:56pm On Sep 21, 2016
bukatyne:


What's nice?

The OP?
Yes.
Re: If Love Requires Work, Was It Meant To Be? by jmoore(m): 1:30pm On Sep 21, 2016
Love is a duty.

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