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A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 9:10am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Those who haven't watched it already can Watch it here Last night, I watched Ray Comfort‘s latest film The Atheist Delusion… because I’m a masochist and it’s one of the requirements. I’ll admit I was curious what the movie would look like after our interview. After all, the film’s tagline is “Atheism destroyed with one scientific question.” Since atheism is still around, I figured this must be a new question no one has heard before! But my atheism wasn’t destroyed. It wasn’t even nicked. If anything, it’s stronger than ever before since the big “scientific question” turned out to be a version of a question we’ve all thought about many times before. Before we get to the science, Comfort talks about books. Books have a designer. Someone had to illustrate the pages, write the words, put the product together, etc. They don’t come together on their own. They’re too complex, he implies, to have “evolved” on their own. Comfort’s interviewees readily concede this point. Then he pivots to DNA. It’s complex. It has a lot of information. Surely someone had to create it. We’ve heard that argument before. William Paley famously said it about a watch, that if you came across one on the ground, you’d reasonably think it fell off someone’s wrist or was put there on purpose. You would never say it evolved like that by chance. But it’s a horrible analogy for evolution. Richard Dawkins wrote an entire book, appropriately titled The Blind Watchmaker, detailing all the ways that logic makes no sense. Comfort clearly hasn’t read Dawkins’ book since he’s still working off of the same 200-year-old analogy. However, his subjects, who aren’t well-versed in biology, aren’t sure how to respond to that argument. They want to say DNA evolved, but they don’t know the details, so they appear flummoxed when asked to explain where DNA came from. There’s a reason for that. We don’t know the exact process yet. We have a pretty damn good idea of how it happened, but it’s not like we’ve created life in a lab. We’re working off of theories based on all the available evidence. That’s the best anyone can do for now, and perhaps it’s all we’ll ever have. Comfort even interviews physicist Lawrence Krauss at one point, asking him the same question about DNA: Could it really have created itself? Krauss goes through the stock scientific answer, including a bit about the Illusion Of Design that tricks our minds. But because he, like the rest of the scientific community, doesn’t have all the answers in a nice, tidy format, Comfort sees it as a sign of surrender. In Comfort’s mind, everything has to come from somewhere, and that “First Cause” is God. (Where did God come from, then? Don’t ask.) The entire movie is just the latest iteration of an argument we’ve heard so many times before. It’s God of the Gaps: The Movie. It’s ignorance parading around as evidence for God’s existence. And it’s that sort of faulty thinking that leads Comfort to claim we can’t have “half an eye” (which is the wrong way of thinking about it), and that the alternative to not knowing everything is automatically Christianity. That’s perhaps the biggest logical failure in the film. Comfort argues evolution is impossible, and then claims that “establishes the Bible” as true. How’s that for a leap of faith? He goes from “We don’t understand this” to “the Christian version of the story is totally accurate,” jumping from Point A to Point Z without any steps in between. He doesn’t argue that a generic God exists. He doesn’t even pay lip service to other religions. He goes directly from DNA couldn’t have evolved to Adam and Eve must exist. By the way, we’re only 20 minutes into the movie at this point. And the science portion is done. The next part is Comfort sharing his personal journey to Jesus with the people he’s interviewing. He tells people, unfairly, “You know in your heart God exists,” as if we’re denying reality instead of rejecting mythology. He tells one person that he’s fighting the obvious existence of God because “you love your porn.” And he attributes happiness and joy and the “blueness of the sky” to God’s love. There’s a hodgepodge of arguments about absolute morality coming from God, a commercial for one of his books, and a long segment featuring the “Good Person” test. In other words, all things we’ve seen Comfort do many times before, all of which have rebuttals publicly available. It might have been interesting if he incorporated those responses and built off of them, but he just reverts to the same old playbook. It’d be unfair to call this movie original because it’s not. It’s not even a sequel. It’s literally the same thing Comfort has done for decades… but with different packaging and fancier cameras. At least his previous movie Audacity was cringeworthy enough to hate-watch. Much like Christianity, this film doesn’t live up to the hype and leaves you wanting your money back. And if anyone’s atheism is destroyed by watching it, it must not have been very strong to begin with. source 21 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 9:22am On Oct 24, 2016 |
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Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by braithwaite(m): 9:28am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Lemme sharply watch the clip |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by jonbellion(m): 9:52am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Ray comfort is a fucking idiot *facepalm* 2 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 10:00am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Nice 1 Like |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 10:12am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Ray comfort has no formal tertiary education he knows nothing of science. If DNA is too complex to come about by chance, then how can a God complex and intelligent enough to create the DNA come from nothing? And if God can come from nothing then why can't DNA which is less complex than God come by chance. 5 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by jonbellion(m): 10:23am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Lennycool:leave the idiot. Him and his sidekick kirk Cameron and his fellow Australian idiot ken ham are just out to destroy science. Ken ham has a creation museum that "TEACHES" children that dinosaurs and humans lived together Abeg what kind of a person is this man 2 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by jonbellion(m): 10:26am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Lennycool:leave the mumu. Him and his side kick kirk Cameron and his fellow Australian idiot ken ham are out to destroy science. Ken ham has a creation museum that actually "teaches" children that humans and dinosaurs lived together *facepalm* |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 10:31am On Oct 24, 2016 |
wow! The movie must have struck some nerves to cause a thread being opened to refute it and all these hate comments. Here we are seeing not an atheist Delusion but an Atheist deception. Deception in trying to refute the movie quickly especially since it is now accessible for free and everyone can watch it now. You even took the time to painstakingly gather all the monikers of your brethren just because of this movie. eeyah! #Atheistdeception.......Coldhardtruth you make a good decoy...wink wink. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 10:34am On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod: Same way his Banana Video struck a nerve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-OLG0KyR4 He quickly took the video down Youre Fishing for likes as usual KingEbukasblog(Naija), Winner01, Honourhim, Felixomor come and like 4evergod's comment 10 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by 1990news: 10:36am On Oct 24, 2016 |
no need to watch the video, i know it would be bullcraps... |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 10:41am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ColdHardTruth: Likes? naaaah I wasnt the one who painstakingly gathered the monikers of atheists was I? Funny enough I am privy to the fact that lots of Atheists eyes got opened by the movie especially the new atheists and lots of them ended up calling themselves names like STUPID...The movie has served its purpose and will keep doing so for a bit longer so your weak attempt to rip it up came too late. Your constituency is Nairaland Atheists but alas the world is bigger than Nairaland. Goodluck as you try to kill an Elephant by using a grain of sand. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 10:43am On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod: Painstakingly? Like I've always done in all my threads? All I needed do was copy and paste, perhaps you're using Charles Babbage's analytical engine so you think I typed every monicker one after the other Sure? it served the same purpose the Banana did 8 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 10:49am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ColdHardTruth: You really did not need to respond to my latest comment you know. I already congratulated you for trying to drop an elephant with a mismatched weapon. I guess you need to take your anger to CNN, BBC, FOX network and all other major media who gave glowing remarks about it. No be me do you....Or am I the reason you became an atheist? Write to CNN and BBC and FOX and let them air your comment as true and let billions worldwide see it. Nairaland is made up on perhaps 300 to 500 atheists so right there is your grain of sand. Lwtmb. |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by jonbellion(m): 10:52am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Which purpose did it serve. Ray comfort doesn't have a university education and yet he wants to analyze DNA better than an evolutionary biologist Talk about comedy 2 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 10:52am On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod: There are LOTS of reviews like this all over the internet A simple google search is enough You're the one And before you deny that, its funny how 4everGod: But you were not "privy enough" to know that there are many reviews like this all over the internet? Lwtmb. What will your internet be without Nairaland? Thanks for your attention, it is appreciated 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by ColdHardTruth: 10:53am On Oct 24, 2016 |
jonbellion: I tell you "You don't know? Goddidit" The Banana was a Farce 5 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Edenoscar(m): 11:27am On Oct 24, 2016 |
The movie tagline was 'atheism destroyed with one scientific question' please who knows what the scientific question is? |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Edenoscar(m): 11:30am On Oct 24, 2016 |
jonbellion:and you will see some people who didnt finish sec school coming here to defend him |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by winner01(m): 11:54am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Of course, the atheists will be angry. Even those who have never watched the clip. Proof does not really matter when you desperately want your presuppositions to be true. Look how even those who have only primary school knowledge of Biology are all over the place. I guess only atheists can be biologists. lol. 2 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
winner01: with all the 17 and 20 yr olds I see claiming atheists and running around on Nairaland I laugh when I see them claiming to be science gurus. This is why they depend solely on what more knowledgeable scientists say hence their over dependence on science as atheists. They know nothing on their own. |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by winner01(m): 12:18pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod:Lol. Trust our atheists. People like Boyle, Charles, Ayala e.t.c were not real Biologists. lol. Nothing can actually serve as proof, not even several documented miracles. Its much more difficult when you are constantly fighting against the holy spirit. The assertion "There is no God" is one which they want to be correct. They dont really need your proof even though they say it. Edenoscar:Below are some great evolutionists who finished secondary school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApJ-nvNoTSg 1 Like |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Edenoscar(m): 1:36pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod:you must personally know all atheist on nairaland for you to make that statement,besides i became an atheist when i didnt even know such a thing as evolution exist so what's your point |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Edenoscar(m): 1:39pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
winner01:who is talking about evolutionists, i meant dropouts who would come and defend that kirk cameron video,are you one of them |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by 1990news: 2:47pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
See finishing. You must be among the characters in Mortal Combat. Edenoscar: |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by kevoh(m): 3:42pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
I have already expressed my thoughts about the movie a few months ago before the movie went live. This review only helps to further buttress my thoughts. https://www.nairaland.com/3274591/christian-evangelist-dismantles-atheism-one#48285495
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Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by jonbellion(m): 3:53pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
Edenoscar:I checked the video and I saw Kent howind. Kent howind that his fellow creationist "scientists" don't agree with *facepalm* |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by JSoE(f): 5:20pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
Sometimes I wonder how so many stupid people came to occupy the Earth at the same time. Ray + Kent(in one video) = Full blown stupid. Ray 'Discomfort' is one bumbling idi-ot I've come to know and admire his high level stupidity(;Dyes, I mean it). I mean, sometimes I wish I could just be as stupid as he is for just a second but then I remember the danger therein and I wise up. He don upgrade in rank for me. 2 Likes
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Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:36pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
Lennycool: jonbellion:Do I still have to say anything 3 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by Pampee: 4:45am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Wait a minute. I just recently joined Nairaland and wasn't away that there are rationally sound minded Nigerians like u guys. I had already lost hope in Nigerians with these their God delusions and disconnection from reality. It's like a disease of the mind. I am so glad I stumbled onto this thread. Saying Ray comfort is stupid is an understatement. The guy is a total nut job seriously. I first heard about the documentary from patheos.com on saturday and decided to watch it. COLDHARDTRUTH nailed it in his review. I couldnt say it any better. Keep up the good work 1 Like |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by xnsandrxns: 7:46am On Oct 25, 2016 |
The best thing I've done in my whole life is to really sit down and ask myself if this god thing really exist. Although I've never been religious, but I always thought I was just being rebellious but now I know freedom was just born with me I pity some religious folks, especially the ones forced into it The ones that are too scared to be free, too scared to think Modern day slaves 3 Likes |
Re: A Review Of Ray Comfort’s The Atheist Delusion (yep, I Watched The Whole Thing) by 1990news: 7:48am On Oct 25, 2016 |
Welcome to the association of realist, the free thinker, the explorer, the wealth of the nation, the self God. Welcome. Pampee: 3 Likes |
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