royallord1:

not too long i changed the outer shaft head before dis gave way...
note this did give any sign...although i blamed my mechanic cos he should habe detected .. he claimed it was completly sealed and no way to find out...
i really dont blame him cause the road to my house id terrible... but yet my benz doesnt give me problems at all

when you change at intervals change all. and most importantly don't buy anything tokunbo parts or Chinese new... get the OEM...they last.. the Benz has a more sturdy build but has a lot of problems bedevilling it too

when you encounter a smart key problem with SAM problems or fuel sender issues as well as a plethora of other things like harness wires for the engine... baba Benz Mechanics are not too full of joy

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NgcoboP:

yes he's correct. small entry level sedans....

the Camry is a midlevel executive sedan same as the E klasse Benz ... this has been trashed severally on Nairaland
and if you want a response from me next timeo please address me politely or I'd be happy to ignore you.

i really dont give any thoughts if u responded or not just dont support what is nt correct.
@ BOLDED -royallord didnt argue majorly on d comparison of camry and e class even though the dude used the word response; all he is trying to say is that d dude should not equate c class and corolla as the are not the same -like royal said, it would have been fair comparing it to the avensis not corolla.
kapish!
mind you the c class is no small level entry... if that is wat u implied

abbacar:

i really dont give any thoughts if u responded or not just dont support what is nt correct.
@ BOLDED -royallord didnt argue majorly on d comparison of camry and e class even though the dude used the word response; all he is trying to say is that d dude should not equate c class and corolla as the are not the same -like royal said, it would have been fair comparing it to the avensis not corolla.
kapish!

I agree with him based on the given classification

NgcoboP:

when you change at intervals change all. and most importantly don't buy anything tokunbo parts or Chinese new... get the OEM...they last.. the Benz has a more sturdy build but has a lot of problems bedevilling it too

when you encounter a smart key problem with SAM problems or fuel sender issues as well as a plethora of other things like harness wires for the engine... baba Benz Mechanics are not too full of joy

like i said earlier when some one who raised this same issues ..
the cars in comparism has no such problems...
non the less.. even toyota has similiar problem
from various key sensor issues .. to electrical problem
and yes i buy new oem parts..

Jazzlite:


a perfect adjective for you if you have been in 5 benz whatsapp forums and still spew rubbish... well thick skull has no cure

You just even exposed your ignorance the more. You're calling kingreign; how many benz WhatsApp group is he in before he comes to defend you that are in 5 benz WhatsApp group ?- FYI, I am in one of those your "5 benz whatsapp group". I even happen to be one of the pioneers of that WhatsApp group. Smartchoice is in one but Shoppy, Bigmeat and Engr. Kells are in the other. Or should I call more names for you that you don't even know? It's either you don't know how to read or you lack basic understanding of English or you're blind (maybe you have cataract, glaucoma or something) which may have been the cause of you not reading and understanding this thread.
Here are the basis for the comparison (in bold) from the topic:
"[quote author=Philadelphia post=50905285]It's now a cliché to new entrants and old vehicle users that if you want a car that is cheap, easy to maintain and fuel economical that you should go for camry or anything Toyota. Everyday, we hear and see people's Toyota cars (especially camry) stolen. I created this thread to compare these cars in terms or reality and not "dem say" or my mechanic say.
Let's compare these cars in terms of
1.) Price of shock absorbers.
2.) Price of break lads.
3.) Engine and gear prices.
4.) Fuel pumps price
5.) Anything else fuel consumption, how much to get a clean Nigerian used (tokunboh fit high because of exchange rates)."

If you can't understand this from here, then I have to leave you to wallow and rot further in your dilapidated state of ignorance.

abbacar:

i really dont give any thoughts if u responded or not just dont support what is nt correct.
@ BOLDED -royallord didnt argue majorly on d comparison of camry and e class even though the dude used the word response; all he is trying to say is that d dude should not equate c class and corolla as the are not the same -like royal said, it would have been fair comparing it to the avensis not corolla.
kapish!
mind you the c class is no small level entry... if that is wat u implied

Seconded! All in favour like this post and all against share it.
The I's have it; even for senate, na them dey get am

NgcoboP:

don't be ignorant. that man is very correct.

Explain how he is correct so we don't classify you with him. We may end up comparing you both or should I say you are a response to him?

NgcoboP:

who tells you that Benz is cheaper to maintain? you must be dreaming

Prove it to us that it is not cheaper to maintain. That's why I have created this thread.

Philadelphia:


Explain how he is correct so we don't classify you with him. We may end up comparing you both or should I say you are a response to him?

hnnnn

Philadelphia:


Prove it to us that it is not cheaper to maintain. That's why I have created this thread.

Hi Phil long time.... Of course where the Toyota will forgive you Benz won't. Moreover it is better to do a comparison of the new condition of the two brands...

If you are looking at reliability of the two using brand new cars as example... The Toyota has the tendency to be more reliable going by online surveys..of users.. the reason might be due to the simplicity of the Toyota brand in comparison with the Mercedes Benz... But nothing compares to the feel of the Mercedes Benz on the road... I think that man is just equating or rather comparing based on the vehicle sizes

On cost of maintenance using OEM non aftermarket parts both are costs almost same if not exactly same... Toyota parts don't come cheap.... Just like Benz... and unfortunately the Toyota has a higher demand compared to Benz hence higher prices..... But comparing the c klasse W202 aftermarket parts with corolla or Camry of same year in Nigeria.... The Benz costs about three times less to maintain than the Toyota.... And Benz parts last three times more

c klasse is an entry level executive sedan at least until 1997. Don't argue.

abbacar:

i really dont give any thoughts if u responded or not just dont support what is nt correct.
@ BOLDED -royallord didnt argue majorly on d comparison of camry and e class even though the dude used the word response; all he is trying to say is that d dude should not equate c class and corolla as the are not the same -like royal said, it would have been fair comparing it to the avensis not corolla.
kapish!
mind you the c class is no small level entry... if that is wat u implied

https://www.nairaland.com/1895540/paying-car-kindly-advice
http://carsort.com/compare/Mercedes-Benz-C-Class-vs-Toyota-Corolla

https://www.nairaland.com/1814489/benz-c180-vs-toyota-camry

NgcoboP:

yes he's correct. small entry level sedans....

the Camry is a midlevel executive sedan same as the E klasse Benz... this has been trashed severally on Nairaland
and if you want a response from me next timeo please address me politely or I'd be happy to ignore you.

Not correct. Camry is not a mid-level executive sedan. It is entry level. Just like C-class and BMW 3 series. Mid-level executive sedans are E-class, Honda Legend, BMW 5 series, Jaguar XF, Nissan Maxima etc. Higher up you get the full luxury sedans which include Benz S-class, BMW 7 series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS 460 etc. Honda and Toyota do not have offerings in this sector, unless you call Lexus a Toyota. Of course there are pretences from the Koreans in the shape of Hyundai Genesis and Kia K9 but they can only realistically compete with the 5 series and E-class.

fabienjoe:


Not correct. Camry is not a mid-level executive sedan. It is entry level. Just like C-class and BMW 3 series. Mid-level executive sedans are E-class, Honda Legend, BMW 5 series, Jaguar XF, Nissan Maxima etc. Higher up you get the full luxury sedans which include Benz S-class, BMW 7 series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS 460 etc. Honda and Toyota do not have offerings in this sector, unless you call Lexus a Toyota. Of course there are pretences from the Koreans in the shape of Hyundai Genesis and Kia K9 but they can only realistically compete with the 5 series and E-class.

you are very wrong sir.... a corolla is an entry level executive sedan...

NgcoboP:

you are very wrong sir.... a corolla is an entry level executive sedan...

Corolla is never an executive sedan

fabienjoe:

Corolla is never an executive sedan

educate me please

fabienjoe:


Not correct. Camry is not a mid-level executive sedan. It is entry level. Just like C-class and BMW 3 series. Mid-level executive sedans are E-class, Honda Legend, BMW 5 series, Jaguar XF, Nissan Maxima etc. Higher up you get the full luxury sedans which include Benz S-class, BMW 7 series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS 460 etc. Honda and Toyota do not have offerings in this sector, unless you call Lexus a Toyota. Of course there are pretences from the Koreans in the shape of Hyundai Genesis and Kia K9 but they can only realistically compete with the 5 series and E-class.

Don't every compare A quoris (k9) to a E-class or 5series .

Corolla is never an executive sedan!!! Period.

A friend wants to buy a model 2000 c230 and it's 700k. its his first car so should he buy or not Please advice on fuel economy, etc.

idrezee:
A friend wants to buy a model 2000 c230 and it's 700k. its his first car so should he buy or not Please advice on fuel economy, etc.

That must be Nigeria used. How neat is the ride? A picture of it would help us advice you better

royallord1:
BENZ IS CHEAPER TO MAINTAIN
BRAKE PADS ARE ALMOST THE SAME PRICE..
But the benz hub and brake disc is more cheaper
the engine of the camry now is about 120k here without the gearbox while the benz engine and auto gearbox is not more than 110k...with manual gear box its abt 65k...
benz shock absorber is cheaper and tends to last longer than brandnew camry shock...
fuel consumption the difference is not noticeable....
a/c i would give the camry... (but u meet top shape benz ac even for hot sun the glass go gather water)
durability benz wins it.. less mechanic visit on a benz
body parts are generally cheaper.... benz complete door goes for about 13k while the camry door excluding engine lifter is about 15k...infact the door handles alone cost abt 6k.
benz body is more tougher than the camry..
you just feel that complete german technology uniqueness and difference in a benz compared to the weak bodied and japan cost cutting built camry...
my humble opinion
and yes the 1999 c class benz cost about the same as the camry... or about a 100k cheaper

You be spare parts dealer?

Complete engine in that Camry is 60k in Abuja, transmission is 50k. The body parts of that Camry us cheaper to buy and is very durable. Its only weakness are its bland nature and very soft tuned suspensions.

NgcoboP:

you are very wrong sir.... a corolla is an entry level executive sedan...

Its never marketed as an entry level executive sedan. Its a compact car (hatchback, sedan, wagon) by EPA classifications, its also an economy car and a family car by intended design aim.

kingreign:

Its never marketed as an entry level executive sedan. Its a compact car (hatchback, sedan, wagon) by EPA classifications, its also an economy car and a family car by intended design aim.

remove the executive... I still feel it can be compared fairly to the C class

NgcoboP:

remove the executive... I still feel it can be compared fairly to the C class

Dimension, yes. But reality of build and purpose NO. Rather, an IS Lexus does that job better and is closely matched.

kingreign:


You be spare parts dealer?

Complete engine in that Camry is 60k in Abuja, transmission is 50k. The body parts of that Camry us cheaper to buy and is very durable. Its only weakness are its bland nature and very soft tuned suspensions.

wrooong... sir
its either u where told price for half and top in abj or something else...
here in benin... ordinary 3sfe engine goes for 90k... i want to buy one for my carina e... i inquired about the camry engine 5sfe to humour myself it goes for btw 110k to 125k depending on if ac compressor and others are attached to it.... gearbox not included.... my carina manual gearbox goes for abt 25k while manual c class goes for abt 7k...
like i said ... we have both cars and am making comparism based on experience...
body parts of camry 2.2 is quite expensive compared to the benz c class... but when it comes to ac chilling ability the camry wins it
my humble submisssion...

royallord1:

wrooong... sir
its either u where told price for half and top in abj or something else...
here in benin... ordinary 3sfe engine goes for 90k... i want to buy one for my carina e... i inquired about the camry engine 5sfe to humour myself it goes for btw 110k to 125k depending on if ac compressor and others are attached to it.... gearbox not included.... my carina manual gearbox goes for abt 25k while manual c class goes for abt 7k...
like i said ... we have both cars and am making comparism based on experience...
body parts of camry 2.2 is quite expensive compared to the benz c class... but when it comes to ac chilling ability the camry wins it
my humble submisssion...

In Abuja I tell you, you'd buy 5S-FE with complete assessories (excluding AC compressor) for 60k. Direct Belgium. I know what I am talking about. If na Benin you dey and dem dey wound you like that, na una sabi.

kingreign:


In Abuja I tell you, you'd buy 5S-FE with complete assessories (excluding AC compressor) for 60k. Direct Belgium. I know what I am talking about. If na Benin you dey and dem dey wound you like that, na una sabi.

hmmmmmm....
the margin is too much to be believed... infact a friend purchased this same camry engine 3years back for 80k infact the reciept is with me will upload when i get home today... the sudden jump to 110k was attributed to the buhari factor.... meanwhile how much is bag of rice in abj cause its abt 18k here... make i knw if relocation would me needed

royallord1:

hmmmmmm....
the margin is too much to be believed... infact a friend purchased this same camry engine 3years back for 80k infact the reciept is with me will upload when i get home today... the sudden jump to 110k was attributed to the buhari factor.... meanwhile how much is bag of rice in abj cause its abt 18k here... make i knw if relocation would me needed

Then, if its too much, don't believe it.
Cheers!

kingreign:
Then, if its too much, don't believe it. Cheers!

please how much is Camry v6 orobo engine..

royallord1:

hmmmmmm....
the margin is too much to be believed... infact a friend purchased this same camry engine 3years back for 80k infact the reciept is with me will upload when i get home today... the sudden jump to 110k was attributed to the buhari factor.... meanwhile how much is bag of rice in abj cause its abt 18k here... make i knw if relocation would me needed

Just Passing........

hotice01:

Just Passing........

passing to where?
any way shall..... safe journey..
help me price bag of rice when u get there...

royallord1:
passing to where? any way shall..... safe journey.. help me price bag of rice when u get there...

For u,it's just 40k only....... accept cash only.