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The Abrogation in the Quran

The author : Father Zakaria Boutros
The publisher: www.fatherzakaria.com

What is meant by the abrogation?
-The word " to abrogate "{Nasekh in Arabic} means to copy as when someone copies an
article, but abrogation has many other meanings in language as ablation or cancellation, in
the quran to abrogate a verse means to remove it, replace it by another verse or to replace
the verse verdict by another verdict
- Ibn Kathir mentioned: narrated ibn-Jarir: the abrogation means transforming the lawful
into unlawful and the unlawful into lawful (1)
How many abrogated verses are there in the quran?
Abu-Gaafer Al-Nahas and many other scholars mentioned that abrogation exists in a total of
71 chapters out of the 114 quran chapters, so the abrogation is existing in about 62,28% of
the quran
The types of the abrogator and abrogated in the quran
The scholars of the abrogation divided it into three main types:
1) Those with abrogated letter and conserved verdict
2) Those with abrogated verdict and conserved letter
3) Those with abrogated verdict and letter
1) Those with abrogated letter and conserved verdict
Those are the verses that had been removed from the quran but their verdicts are still active
and valid
Actually the quran has many examples for that, of them:
1- the stoning of the adulterous and adulteress verse
2- the adult sucking verse
1- the stoning of the adulterous and adulteress verse
the stoning of the adulterous and adulteress verse was present in the quran during the
time of Muhammad, but it was abrogated, and it doesn’t exist any more in the current
Othman’s quran , but its verdict is still valid , and currently the adulterous and adulteress
should be stoned according to the Islamic legislation
2- the adult sucking verse
The adult sucking verse was present in the quran, as Aeisha when she wanted to meet a
man, she was asking her niece to suckle that man, and so by that he will be debarred for
her so she can meet him freely
Abu-Gaafer Al-Nahas mentioned that: Sahla , the daughter of Sohil came to the prophet
(PUH) saying: I had seen my husband (Abe Hozifa) is upset as he sees Salem (a servant of
them) coming to me, the prophet (PUH), told her then you suckle him (meaning that to let
Salem suck from her, in order to let him be like a son to her , so he will be debarred for her,
so her husband will not be upset from him anymore!!!), she replied but How could I suckle a
grown up man ?, the prophet (PUH) said : I know well that he is a grown up man, she went
and allowed that man to suck from her and came back to the prophet saying : I have suckled
him, and now my husband is not upset anymore from him when he comes to me (2)
2) Those with abrogated verdict and conserved letter
Those are verses that are still present in the quran but their verdicts were abrogated, or
invalid, of that type there are 550 verses
Among them were the verses concerning peace and forgiveness those descended while
Muhammad was in Makkah as he was a peaceful man , there were about 124 verses inciting
for living in peace and preaching forgiveness, all of those verses were abrogated by two
verses of the Repentance chapter (Surat At-Taubah), those verses are the sword and
fighting verses:
- Repentance chapter (Surat At-Taubah): 5." when the Sacred Months have passed, then kill
the disbelievers”
- Repentance chapter (Surat At-Taubah) 29:" Fight against those who believe not in Allah,
nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger
and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (Islam) among the people of the
Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the tribute with willing submission, and feel
themselves subdued".
Those two verses abrogated 124 verses that came before them
3) Those with abrogated verdict and abrogated letter
Those are verses that disappeared completely from the quran as regards their text and
verdict
It was mentioned that one of companions of the prophet wished to recite a verse of the
quran he had memorized , he couldn't remember it except only " in the name of Allah the
most gracious, most merciful" so he went to other people, to ask them but they were also
uncertain about that verse, so they decided to go to the prophet and ask him about it, then
the prophet remained silent for an hour ,then replied them saying " that verse was
abrogated by God yesterday (3)
- Narrated Aeisha:” the Confederates chapter (Surat Al-Ahzab) was recited during the time of
the prophet up to two hundred verses, then when Othman wrote the quran, we didn't find
except 73 verses “(4)
- Narrated Omer: “Actually big parts of the quran had gone, and not present now “(4)
Those are the verses with their text disappeared completely from the quran and also their
verdicts are not present any more
Hazardousness of the abrogation:
There is serious Hazardousness for the abrogation
1) The existence of abrogation in the quran is conflicting with other verses as:
- The Cattle chapter (Surat Al-An'am) 34:" none can alter the words of Allah"
And The Cave chapter (Surat Al-Kahf) 27:"None can change his words"
2) The abrogation is conflicting with the concept of the conserved plate
- The Big Stars chapter (Surat Al-Burooj) 21, 22:”This is a Glorious Quran, in Lauh Mahfûz
(Preserved Tablet)
Does the concept of the abrogator and abrogated, changing in the quran verses, canceling
and abating them accord with the verity of the quran being infinite in a conserved tablet? So
did the cancellation or change happen also in the conserved tablet? Or had the conserved
tablet revised or modified versions? and when the prophet forgot some verses , aren’t they
supposed to exist in the conserved tablet, so why He didn’t send Gabriel again to remind
him with what he had forgotten
3) The abrogation is conflicting with:
- The Rocky Tract chapter (Surat Al-Hijr) 9:" It is we who have sent down the Dhikr (the
Quran) and surely, we will guard it"
So according to the quran, God guards his words from changing or alternation, and what is
the abrogation? It is nothing but changing and alternation of the quran, so how did that
happen?
4) the most serious hazardousness of the abrogation is in the verse of the women chapter
(Surat An-Nisa') 82:" Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found
therein much contradiction
Isn't enough to have 550 quran verses, that had been abrogated, changed, or replaced,
from the quran , to prove the presence of much contradiction, and to satisfy the requirement
set forth by the verse " Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found
therein much contradiction"
Some claim that the abrogation exists also in the Holy Bible, as the Christ abrogated the Old
Testament
The word abrogation was not mentioned at all in the Holy Bible
The Christ said very clearly:” I did not come to annul, but to fulfill” Matthew 5:17
If a child who was in the primary school , grows up and gets into the high school, do they
cancel for him what he had learned in the primary school?, of course not, but they will just
complete the knowledge for him as he grows up
In the old testaments there were some legislations and symbols as regarding the sacrifices
and other things, those were fulfilled in the Christ , so they are no more valid by the coming
of the Christ , the Christ came and completed everything and gave the legislation of
perfection
(1) Ibn Kathir exegesis (Tafsir) part 1, page 104
(2) The abrogator and abrogated, by Abu-Gaafer Al-Nahas page 124
(3) The abrogates of the quran, by Jamal Al-Din Ibn Al- Jozy, page 589
(4) The perfection in the quran's sciences, by Jalal Al-Din Al-Syouty, part 2, page 26

I knew q'uran to be evil

Hillarious.

Won't comment on the thread; yet will like to ask: Do you know there is myriad abrogation in the Bible as well?

You are doing the same thing you blamed people for doing on your thread. Shame on you hypocrite!

muhsin:

Hillarious.

Won't comment on the thread; yet will like to ask: Do you know there is myriad abrogation in the Bible as well?

No response?

lightwalk:

You are doing the same thing you blamed people for doing on your thread. Shame on you hypocrite!

Who?

muhsin:

No response?

Who?

The topic is abrogation in the quran, i thought you opened a thread saying the quran has never been changed, and please kindly show us the parts of the bible removed because they were said to be ''satanic'', or the ones that contradict other verses, Jesus said that he did not come to nullify or abrogate but to fulfill that which has been written before.

sleek29:


The topic is abrogation in the quran,

That was why I asked for forgiveness.

i thought you opened a thread saying the quran has never been changed,

Yes. And if it has, prove it.

and please kindly show us the parts of the bible removed because they were said to be ''satanic'', or the ones that contradict other verses, Jesus said that he did not come to nullify or abrogate but to fulfill that which has been written before.

For e.g. on divorce: read these two verses--the first abrogates/contradicts(?) the second one:

1st

"If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, (Deutronomy 24:1-2).

2nd

"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.' But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32).

You are asking who You opened a thread on contradictions of the Bible and when instead of countering them people started talking about the fallacies of the Quran and you blamed them for doing so.

muhsin:

Hillarious.

Won't comment on the thread; yet will like to ask: Do you know there is myriad abrogation in the Bible as well?

Repent and become a Christian, else there's no hope for you!

:d :d :d

muhsin:

That was why I asked for forgiveness.

Yes. And if it has, prove it.
For e.g. on divorce: read these two verses--the first abrogates/contradicts(?) the second one:

1st

"If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, (Deutronomy 24:1-2).

2nd

"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.' But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:31-32).

First, read the article, you'll find that some verses were totally removed from the quran.

Contradiction is a little offence while complete removal is totally unacceptable.

''except for unfaithfulness'', this was for those who misinterpreted the law, these people just divorced their wives for no just reason and then married another, Christ came to fulfill not annul, study the scriptures and not just read through.

any more cases?

Hello guys! There is no abrogation nor contradiction in the Holy Quran. Lets judge this with the Quran itself and the Bible,and lets not include the writting or sayings of any one except the book of tradition of the both religion,because the books should be able to steak for itself .
Firstly, provide the verse that infer that there is abrogation in the holy Quran. As for the bible,the following verses points its pollution;'they have transgressed the law,changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant' (isaiah 24:5) 'when there is a change of priesthood, there must also be a change of the law'(heb. 7:12).
Then as for contradiction, you present the verses that are contradicting each other from the Quran and i present those that are contradicting in the Bible which goes thus: Jesus was made accursed (Gal. 3:13) Jesus was not made a curse (1. Cor. 12:3)
Jesus is the only begotten son of God (John 3:16) David is only begotten son of God (Psalms 2:7)

sleek29:

First, read the article, you'll find that some verses were totally removed from the quran.

Contradiction is a little offence while complete removal is totally unacceptable.

''except for unfaithfulness'', this was for those who misinterpreted the law, these people just divorced their wives for no just reason and then married another, Christ came to fulfill not annul, study the scriptures and not just read through.

any more cases?

The one in point is not yet explained.