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My Final Shift Away From Christianity by bemind(f): 7:25pm On Nov 26, 2016
I have been a Christian all my life but fortunately or unfortunately in November 2015, I decided to get more serious with my relationship with Christ. I immersed myself in all things of Christ. Fasting during the day and only listening to my bible app on long journeys to and fro my workplace. During breaks at work, I'd run to the bathroom, get on my knees with my hands sometimes in the air, praying, praying and praying. Praying to turn a new leaf, praying for insight and guidance in this new path, praying for forgiveness, praying to receive the Holy Spirit, praying to be heard, praying to transition to a true child of God a disciple of Christ.

Let me tell you what happened to me. I started to uncover codes in the Bible. I realized the Old Testament was an allegory of the New Testament. A lot of revelations about Christ being the messiah was deeply coded in the Old Testament. I downloaded several versions and translations of the Bible for deeper understanding of the word. If you read carefully, Moses parting of the sea was done using the sign of the cross, the blood marks on the entrance of the homes of the Jews in Exodus was also done using the cross sign. So many subtle revelations of Christ is deeply encoded in so many parts of the Old Testament. But they come allegorized. The book of Revelations I realized is a summary of all the major stories of the Bible spanning both Old and New Testament and is basically the story of the elect and the elect only. The beatitudes are to the elect of God and them only. A lot of Solomon and other prophets’ soliloquies were in reference to the burdens, pains and sorrows of the elect whom will be appointed to serve Christ selflessly and completely, as the journey is not likely to be a bed of roses. Paul spoke more about this group of disciples.

These revelations continued, until one day on my way home listening to Paul as usual, I heard a statement in the book of Hebrews about the repercussions of receiving the Holy Spirit and then going back to sin. Those words from Paul resonated so well with me and It was clear that I had received some kind of clarity, guidance particularly with uncovering truths in the Bible.
It meant that If I slipped, just a pinch, I was doomed. I panicked because at the time I believed I had been living what I can only describe as a purist but not perfectly, I couldn't guarantee I would be in this repentant state forever, at all times. It hit me, then fear started to creep in.
What followed were a series of fearful and sleepless nights. I lost a ton of weight but continued to hold on to the Word but this time in great fear.

Eventually I had had enough. Fear I figured is the great energy driving this force, it is the overriding fuel of the religious path. Without it the religion can't stand. So I quit. Quitting was certainly not a walk in the park. Then the veil was unveiled!

You see once you get to this stage in your journey either of two things happen. You become psychotic and start believing witches or the devil or some relative is out to get you. Either that or you start to see the cheer evil in the acts penned in the "holy book". The goriness of the blood which you supposedly soak yourself in for safety, the tribalism and racism purported by a particular sect, the hot hell fire etc these are not acts of a God ingrained in Love. I attained freedom at last.

I now follow the “religion” of love your neighbor as yourself, empathy and compassion for all. The religion of pointing out the ills and sins of others is one of pure hypocrisy. The day you realize you are not any different from the so called sinners (gays, prostitutes, bobrisky) you berate and condemn to hell, that is the day your veil would be removed. You don't even have to denounce any religion, just try love and abore judgements.

One last thing I learnt is as long as you live under the laws of this planet, be careful as what you wish for others, you have unknowingly wished for yourself. If you wish hell and misery for others, you unknowingly get hell and misery yourself. If you wish love and health to your fellow man, the universe rewards you same.

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by bemind(f): 7:26pm On Nov 26, 2016
This post from LeoVirgo was a starting point in my transition. I enjoyed her point of view on the subject of anarchy in the bible. This post in particular caught my attention and led me to review my approach to studying the word. This is an excerpt of her response on the subject of contradictions in the Bible, I saved it on my phone and refer to it all the time:

The Bible, is meant to be the way it is. In the sense that it offers two natures...one of Earth, of flesh...and one of Spirit, of God. Its not meant to be a book that lays all the answers in the lap. It is meant to be a book that will reflect the inner nature of each person.

If the people choose to accept the jealous wrathful God. This shows where they are it in growth and understanding. It is a marker. If people choose to seek further, seek within, and discern all things through the Holy Spirit, they will see the wheat and the tares are both within the book, they will see things of Earthly wisdom's (jealousy, pride, greed, and lust) are there, they will see things of Spiritual wisdom (unconditional love, compassion, understanding, and forgiveness) are there.

Every religion has both. Its meant to be this way. The Spirits true wisdom is within the blueprint of the Universe and this very Earth...the life of he Spirit runs through all things of life itself, and therein is spiritual wisdom's. They have always been here for those that seek. Never hidden, never kept secret, if you seek to be guided by the Spirits, you will be shown.

Just as though its not meant to be to bring others to God through fear....its also not meant to be to drive others away from their beliefs through fear. Fear is not a way, for truth of any kind. Only, understanding, can get you there.

The Bible is meant to be what it is. It offers both natures we are of....of flesh and of Spirit. It is up to us to discern between the two and decide which one we will live for.

You are accepting too much truth about Yahweh...the Serpent...the Devil. It is more allegory, about our Earthly nature, which is jealous, which is greedy, which is prideful, which is lustful. To accept that God is those things...is a marker for those not discerning between what is Holy and Divine and what is not Holy and Divine.

To say there is a Devil, a enemy of God.....is no better then what the religions teach of. God does not boast, is not jealous, is not prideful, and there is nothing that is a threat to Thee.

The plan is perfect, there have been no mistakes or errors. There are many markers for man....and these are used to show ourselves, when we must look through the Divine Eye after death, what our inner nature is and what it needs to become. We all relearn, we reap what we sow, it is a cycle and a order.

There will be destruction and chaos...for those that believe in the Earthly wisdoms are creating with their very thoughts. We will have war, there will be catalysts...but this must happen, for we must learn how powerful our thoughts (beliefs) are. For us to find the path that is...we must as a unit, walk the paths that are not. Both, the path that is, and the path that is not...are within the book and both are meant to be there.

The Spirit that has offered life to the Earth is the same Spirit that has offered us the experience of 'life'.

From here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread587522/pg2

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by edebemba(m): 7:47pm On Nov 26, 2016
I thank God for your life. At least now, you are among those who have received this divine gift: '...it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given'.(Mathew 13:11). The kingdom of heaven is not for everybody. It is for only those who believe in Jesus Christ and do His will. There is no other name given among men by which we can be saved. No other!

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Tiffbuxas: 8:02pm On Nov 26, 2016
edebemba:
I thank God for your life. At least now, you are among those who have received this divine gift: '...it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given'.(Mathew 13:11). The kingdom of heaven is not for everybody. It is for only those who believe in Jesus Christ and do His will. There is no other name given among men by which we can be saved. No other!
I don't get you.... this guy just shifted from Christianity..... so wish one are u praising his twisted insight which I believe is an inspired error
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by thorpido(m): 8:11pm On Nov 26, 2016
Jesus is Lord.
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by edebemba(m): 8:12pm On Nov 26, 2016
Tiffbuxas:
I don't get you.... this guy just shifted from Christianity..... so wish one are u praising his twisted insight which I believe is an inspired error

At first he received the divine gift and later lost it. I am only trying to let let him know that the kingdom of heaven is not for everybody and that whatever he thinks or feels cannot change the fact that only Jesus saves.
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Tiffbuxas: 8:12pm On Nov 26, 2016
edebemba:

At first he received the divine gift and later lost it. I am only trying to let let him know that the kingdom of heaven is not for everybody and that whatever he thinks or feels cannot change the fact that only Jesus saves.
Ooh Sori for the missup
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by sonoforogun(m): 8:15pm On Nov 26, 2016
Na wa! Wetin we no go believe?
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 8:26pm On Nov 26, 2016
Tiffbuxas:
I don't get you.... this guy just shifted from Christianity..... so wish one are u praising his twisted insight which I believe is an inspired error

My brother, I can't help but wonder what's happening...truly the devil has taken his battle to people's minds.

He's messing up their views on life, God, the Bible and everything that is of light. I really feel like talking to the OP, but honestly, where do I start?
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by LaClicKLaBenDin(m): 8:29pm On Nov 26, 2016
@bemind, can we talk privately?
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by MrMontella(m): 8:35pm On Nov 26, 2016
The op's posts are a bit confusing.. Anyone else feel that way?
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by olagbemi118(m): 8:36pm On Nov 26, 2016
People are falling away, the love of many are becoming dead cold. To the OP, I bliv u can trace ur steps back. Don't forget the zeal u once had, the peace & compassion dat once encompassed ur soul. Don't forget the comfort of the Spirit & the heavenly revelations given to u. Those things are not earthly & dey aint cheap. Only in Christ is salvation, it's not found in any other place. U fell or are falling bcoz u allowed fear to creap in & reside. U sure didn't get some things right. Christianity is not about u neva sinning or about u maintaining ur state of purity. We do commit sin but we go back to Him dat is sinless. Haven't u read from the scripture dat we are of many offences unto justification? Consider this & trace ur steps back again.
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by honourhim: 8:41pm On Nov 26, 2016
bemind:
I have been a Christian all my life but fortunately or unfortunately in November 2015, I decided to get more serious with my relationship with Christ. I immersed myself in all things of Christ. Fasting during the day and only listening to my bible app on long journeys to and fro my workplace. During breaks at work, I'd run to the bathroom, get on my knees with my hands sometimes in the air, praying, praying and praying. Praying to turn a new leaf, praying for insight and guidance in this new path, praying for forgiveness, praying to receive the Holy Spirit, praying to be heard, praying to transition to a true child of God a disciple of Christ.

Let me tell you what happened to me. I started to uncover codes in the Bible. I realized the Old Testament was an allegory of the New Testament. A lot of revelations about Christ being the messiah was deeply coded in the Old Testament. I downloaded several versions and translations of the Bible for deeper understanding of the word. If you read carefully, Moses parting of the sea was done using the sign of the cross, the blood marks on the entrance of the homes of the Jews in Exodus was also done using the cross sign. So many subtle revelations of Christ is deeply encoded in so many parts of the Old Testament. But they come allegorized. The book of Revelations I realized is a summary of all the major stories of the Bible spanning both Old and New Testament and is basically the story of the elect and the elect only. The beatitudes are to the elect of God and them only. A lot of Solomon and other prophets’ soliloquies were in reference to the burdens, pains and sorrows of the elect whom will be appointed to serve Christ selflessly and completely, as the journey is not likely to be a bed of roses. Paul spoke more about this group of disciples.

These revelations continued, until one day on my way home listening to Paul as usual, I heard a statement in the book of Hebrews about the repercussions of receiving the Holy Spirit and then going back to sin. Those words from Paul resonated so well with me and It was clear that I had received some kind of clarity, guidance particularly with uncovering truths in the Bible.
It meant that If I slipped, just a pinch, I was doomed. I panicked because at the time I believed I had been living what I can only describe as a purist but not perfectly, I couldn't guarantee I would be in this repentant state forever, at all times. It hit me, then fear started to creep in.
What followed were a series of fearful and sleepless nights. I lost a ton of weight but continued to hold on to the Word but this time in great fear.

Eventually I had had enough. Fear I figured is the great energy driving this force, it is the overriding fuel of the religious path. Without it the religion can't stand. So I quit. Quitting was certainly not a walk in the park. Then the veil was unveiled!

You see once you get to this stage in your journey either of two things happen. You become psychotic and start believing witches or the devil or some relative is out to get you. Either that or you start to see the cheer evil in the acts penned in the "holy book". The goriness of the blood which you supposedly soak yourself in for safety, the tribalism and racism purported by a particular sect, the hot hell fire etc these are not acts of a God ingrained in Love. I attained freedom at last.

I now follow the “religion” of love your neighbor as yourself, empathy and compassion for all. The religion of pointing out the ills and sins of others is one of pure hypocrisy. The day you realize you are not any different from the so called sinners (gays, prostitutes, bobrisky) you berate and condemn to hell, that is the day your veil would be removed. You don't even have to denounce any religion, just try love and abore judgements.

One last thing I learnt is as long as you live under the laws of this planet, be careful as what you wish for others, you have unknowingly wished for yourself. If you wish hell and misery for others, you unknowingly get hell and misery yourself. If you wish love and health to your fellow man, the universe rewards you same.


Sorry you rather embarked on a journey that led you into being confused about the bible. This heavenly journey is not by human gragra. Just cool down and follow God with a simple heart.
Again the interpretation you gave to Hebrew 6;4-6 may not be right. In the letter to the seven churches in the book of Revelations, about five of them had various errors pointed out in their lives but they were asked to amend their ways. This is contrary to your views about that portion in the book of Hebrews..
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by hopefulLandlord: 8:42pm On Nov 26, 2016
honourhim:



Sorry you rather embarked on a journey that led you into being confused about the bible. This heavenly journey is not by human gragra. Just cool down and follow God with a simple heart.

Hehehehehehehehe

I expected this kinda comment
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by fijiano202(m): 8:45pm On Nov 26, 2016
LaClicKLaBenDin:
@bemind, can we talk privately?
I honestly wanted to suggest a private chat with the op,there are somethings in her write up that should have enlighten her more but i believe she needs counselling
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by honourhim: 8:51pm On Nov 26, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehehehehe

I expected this kinda comment

Yea see the explanation i gave her. You were too fast to grab my comment grin grin Ice water oo

Some christians take their biblical understanding far too wrong and that makes them quick to judge and condemn people to hell anyhow. Infact they preach message of condemnation more than that of hope. thats what she slided into
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by alBHAGDADI: 8:53pm On Nov 26, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehehehehe

I expected this kinda comment
This one doesn't believe God exists, yet he troubles himself about a non-existing God.

use your MB to download porn grin
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by unphilaz(m): 8:58pm On Nov 26, 2016
So ? Have you heard about d finished work of Christ that brings about rest... Rest is not part of your christian life but fear
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by benzics(m): 8:59pm On Nov 26, 2016
Welcome back to reality sweetheart... For you have broken the chains of religion.. don't let anyone tell you otherwise, religion is for unreasonable set of people, people who don't think.. But finally you are back dear.. Enjoy your life cool kiss

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by honourhim: 9:01pm On Nov 26, 2016
fijiano202:
I honestly wanted to suggest a private chat with the op,there are somethings in her write up that should have enlighten her more but i believe she needs counselling

Yea she needs some counseling. I pray God to help and put her on the right track and right understanding.
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by mrmrmister: 9:03pm On Nov 26, 2016
After hardmirror's issue, I don't think anyone is interested in "conversion" stories anymore.
Anyone who becomes an atheist should rather keep the tales to themselves and save us the stress of unnecessary events that may turn out

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by hopefulLandlord: 9:05pm On Nov 26, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
This one doesn't believe God exists, yet he troubles himself about a non-existing God.

use your MB to download porn grin

you're tired of getting owned by Muslims? or you forgot to reply my comment with one of your other monickers? or are all your other monickers banned?
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by hopefulLandlord: 9:08pm On Nov 26, 2016
mrmrmister:
After hardmirror's issue, I don't think anyone is interested in "conversion" stories anymore.
Anyone who becomes an atheist should rather keep the tales to themselves and save us the stress of unnecessary events that may turn out

I disagree, you can't say no one should post their conversion if they have any just because a lie was detected in another

let's be sincere with ourselves, everyone sensationalise tales and adds things that either didn't happen or happened but not the way such a person described (exaggeration) or memory getting deceived by hindsight

these things happen

let's not act like its some cosmic bullsheeet

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by marshalcarter: 9:10pm On Nov 26, 2016
I pray it wouldn't be late when ur eyes are opened
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by LiberaDeus: 9:11pm On Nov 26, 2016
The Christians are saying that the devil is fighting peoples minds but trenchant see that the only devil fighting the gospel is the devil of truth.

I have said it before and I will say it again, Christianity is like a vampire that can't stand the sunlight , once it is illuminated it starts to wither and fall by itself.

The light of reason is beginning to shine on it, due to the availability of information in the internet and the globalization going on that makes ideas to be shared easily, the light of truth is beginning to tear Christianity into shreds.

One of the posters said the devil is attacking peoples minds, the Christians don't know that their position on existence and life generally is more negative, horrific and evil than any devil can bring. In reality, speaking metaphorically, I can say that god is fighting and destroying the devil of religion that has held man captive. The god of truth and reason is freeing people from the mental cage of religion.

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by ambassagod: 9:15pm On Nov 26, 2016
alBHAGDADI:
This one doesn't believe God exists, yet he troubles himself about a non-existing God.

use your MB to download porn grin

hahahahahaha
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by benzics(m): 9:15pm On Nov 26, 2016
LiberaDeus:


One of the posters said the devil is attacking peoples minds, the Christians don't know that their position on existence and life generally is more negative, horrific and evil than any devil can bring. In reality, speaking metaphorically, I can say that god is fighting and destroying the devil of religion that has held man captive. The god of truth and reason is freeing people from the mental cage of religion.
Don't mind these dull people parading as intelligent Christians.
Christianity is the only place that you will believe a serial killer loves you, and that he is only killing because he loves you, like how will you love me and burn me for not believing in you? Christians need brains really

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by mrmrmister: 9:16pm On Nov 26, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


I disagree, you can't say no one should post their conversion if they have any just because a lie was detected in another

let's be sincere with ourselves, everyone sensationalise tales and adds things that either didn't happen or happened but not the way such a person described (exaggeration) or memory getting deceived by hindsight

these things happen

let's not act like its some cosmic bullsheeet

I dunno
Just felt he should have admitted, the whole drama could have been avoided
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by ambassagod: 9:17pm On Nov 26, 2016
unphilaz:
So ? Have you heard about d finished work of Christ that brings about rest... Rest is not part of your christian life but fear

point!
Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by hopefulLandlord: 9:20pm On Nov 26, 2016
marshalcarter:
I pray it wouldn't be late when ur eyes are opened

lol

same old veiled threats of hell fire

why not die in battle so that Odin would grant you access to Valhalla?

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by Wilgrea7(m): 9:24pm On Nov 26, 2016
@ bemind ... while your story is interesting, i would like to know how you came up with the conclusion of devil and God not being real people... cuz mere satanic websites seem to prove you wrong

also, how did you know that revelation was formed from the history?

I'm not asking sarcastically
i would really like to know

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Re: My Final Shift Away From Christianity by otemanuduno: 9:24pm On Nov 26, 2016
THANK YOU O GOD OF THE UNIVERSE FOR THIS THREAD. ANOTHER PERSON IS ON THE LOSE FROM THE RELIGION OF SATAN(YAHWEH), YET THEY WILL NOT REALISE THAT YAHWEH IS IN A SPIRITUAL CAGE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE HIS EVIL BELIEF IS ALREADY GETIING FOLDED UP.

4everGod, Wilgrea7, Jacksonville, did I not say that continuously the religion of satan(Yahweh) shall be diminishing in my country? PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY.

LET ME LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THIS PASSAGE OF THE DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH:

LISHIUS 3: 20-37

:
20. And some follow after real stories while majority follow after fictitious stories, which thing is called faith.
21. But I urge everyone to follow after real stories rather than fictitious stories.
[b]22. For real stories are not scary. But fictitious ones are both complex and misleading.
23. For when you believe in the fictitious stories of demons and you dream of your belief once, it shall be made real to you.
24. And you shall dream continuously of those things and fear shall set upon your soul.
25. But when you believe the realities of life, that all things can be done by the homos, then shall it become possible to read the minds of trees and of birds and of nature.
26. And you shall know that it shall rain in such place tomorrow and it shall not rain in this place.
27. Let your imaginations be not evil but good. Set your minds on good things for your lands and for the future homos rather than feeding them with tales of destruction like Jonas of the desert did and turned the generations after him into a generation of fearfulness.
28. For in the days of Eubius, the homos fear when they hear of cyclones and of volcanoes.
29. And they gave no rest to their minds when they see the hurricanes.
30. And they cry, it is the time of the end. And their eyes were blinded to histories to see that earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes, eclipse and all the likes has ever been happening even before the homo erectuses began to exist.[/b]
31. And they did not know how the Parakreets of old and the Dinosaurs and other great animals died.
32. For many of them died of great diseases and earthquakes and storms.
33. But Petra and Pol and Matteu and all those who went about to speak of Yeshu said that the occurrences of such things are the indications of the end of the world.
34. O how foolish it shall be for the homos of the future to accept all these things as the signs of the end of their world?
35. For it is like saying, the increase in birth rate is the indication of the end of the world.
36. For who does not know that birth rate shall increase as long as medicines get better.
37. And who does not know that the population of the world now shall become a fraction of the future population?

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