damariox:


Why should an apostate be disfelowshiped? Is disfelowshiping or expelling the right word?

What's your scriptural backup to shunning and dehumanizing an ex jw who disagrees let's say with blood transfusion if you're nothing but a cult group, controlling information?

Who protects the sheep from drifting? The Sheppard?? Who's the Sheppard? Jesus Christ!!

TopeBush:
Why attend a three day convention just to criticise it?...you could have spent the time doing things that will end up good.
Someone asked if people still "attend JW"
Yes, people still do. And infact the number keeps Increasing there are close to 9 million active JW's on earth.
We only recognise Jesus as the Son of God-Jehovah. But we don't worship Jesus we Worship Only Jehovah.

Image123:


What is the meaning of the word "apostate"? What part is a lie in the OP? Is it that there was no regional convention themed 'REMAIN LOYAL TO JEHOVAH'? Is it that they did not say those things that the OP said were said?

olaolaking:

Disfelowshiping is just a way of disciplining. It does not mean that you are not wanted. It is done to bring sanity to the group. It is done to make you feel sober for doing the wrong thing. This is usually after investigation shows that the wrong doing is not a mistake.

It is also supported by the bible

damariox:



How? Which of there believes? Do you even understand the academic arrangements of the various books in the Bible? If I cherry pick verses to find a word that suites my believes could I right to say the whole chapter of I found those matching words was just for those cherry picked verses?

My dear read the Bible in whole. Ask yourself what each and every author of any Bible thinks, his background and beliefs as to every issue raised by him? Don't be fooled by Bible manipulators, every Bible book is independent of each other.

sweetestboi:
an apostate simply put is a believer who has backslided & have turn into a staunch opposer of his previous faith or belief...that being said...I'd like 2 let u knw emphatically none dose the op mentioned was taught @ the convention"

Troubleking:
I probably have read and know the bible more than you. So chill and stop assuming what you don't know.

The real Bible manipulators are those your pastor frauds who keep using an obsolete tithing law to fleece their sheep. They only quote the bible when they want to make you pay tithes and offering; or make divine promises they are in no position to make, so you can pay money; or threaten you with spiritual enemies so you can pay money for prayers and voodoo water.

They are empty, all of them. I doubt they even believe in God.

JW is the only group that has actively encouraged me to study the bible for myself and ask never be afraid to questions. The rest of you, na to threaten person with hellfire if he questions your beliefs.

damariox:




Why should a disfelowshiped fellow be shunned by his own family and friends?? Is that in line with Jesus very teachings of love and compassion even to those who disagree with us? Do you think Paul corrupted Jesus teachings?

olaolaking:
Disfelowshiped fellows will not feel sober if he enjoys all the benefits of association with even family.
Paul did not corrupt Jesus' teaching. Unless you see Disfelowship as hatred. A Disfelowshiped person is still cared and pray for. A Disfelowshiped person will be encouraged to right the wrong as quickly as possible and everyone will be looking to welcome him back and warmly. The joy and happiness is much when a punished person is announced to have come back. That shows love not hate.

damariox:



Jws don't know the Bible.. They are only Evangelicaly informed. No academic knowledge whatsoever, even how they got the Bible.. How can they be vast in knowledge when they are controlled to read only watchtower publications

olaolaking:
Disfelowshiped fellows will not feel sober if he enjoys all the benefits of association with even family.
Paul did not corrupt Jesus' teaching. Unless you see Disfelowship as hatred. A Disfelowshiped person is still cared and pray for. A Disfelowshiped person will be encouraged to right the wrong as quickly as possible and everyone will be looking to welcome him back and warmly. The joy and happiness is much when a punished person is announced to have come back. That shows love not hate.

Troubleking:
I probably have read and know the bible more than you. So chill and stop assuming what you don't know.

The real Bible manipulators are those your pastor frauds who keep using an obsolete tithing law to fleece their sheep. They only quote the bible when they want to make you pay tithes and offering; or make divine promises they are in no position to make, so you can pay money; or threaten you with spiritual enemies so you can pay money for prayers and voodoo water.

They are empty, all of them. I know many pastors personally... Their calling is pure business. I doubt they even believe in God.

JW is the only group that has actively encouraged me to study the bible for myself and ask never be afraid to questions. The rest of you, na to threaten person with hellfire if he questions your beliefs. You don't even preach, and you would be pretending to be christians too.

damariox:


You should cover your face in shame... Shameless jw defender.
What of the great tribulation videos? A brother shunning his own very blood brother's generous gifts of assistance.. Reason he's no more a witness.

A girl shunned and sent away by her parents cus she disagrees with the teachings of the watchtower. Her parents refused even to pick their daughters phone calls.

So disgusting all of you sat down happy and glad to view the bunker videos how jws should treat non jws especially ex jws... Shun them, disgrace them in public.. If possible avoid eye contacts.


What a cult

uzuede4:
Christianfreedo

It is no doubt that you are an "APOSTATE". You are one of the wolves that is in the organisation to carry whoever falls prey to it. Even when he was on earth, Jesus refused to be worshipped or even called "GOOD". He ascibed all such honor to his father Jehovah. check matthew 4:1-11. Mark 10:17,18.

Jehovah remains the only true God. Loyalty to him is a step to guarantee ur survival into His kingdom. Jesus never even said he akmighty and deserves to be worshipped. He recognised Jehovah's sovreignty. Deut6:4,5. Mark12:29,30. John14:28.

For anyone who does not know, Jehovah's Witnesses expel from among their midst any unrepentant wrong doer.1Corinthians5:1-11. Op, kindly tell nairalanders what you have done that you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. On the other hand, if you no longer want to be one kindly leave.

From your post it is obvious that you are an "APOSTATE". But remember,"Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap." Galatians 6:7. Op, be careful what you say against Jehovah for "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of (Jehovah) the living God. Hebrews 10:31.

A word they say, is enough for the wise. He that had ears, let him listen.

sweetestboi:
hmm...I see u too have a mistaken view about the witnesses & wah u claim u saw on that video,,,the discipline given to erring individuals in the Christian congregation is for the purpose of readjusting them and helping them regain their severed relationship with their God Jehovah...it's not in anyway meant 2 disgrace or embarrass them as u just described it""about Jehovah's witnesses being a cult group,in my opinion, if dis is what cultism look like, then it should be promoted"

olaolaking:
The Op does not deserve reply. He had opened almost 30 threads in the past and all are about JW. Yet he still attends meetings till date and greet and laugh with brothers.

Very mentally, he is not balanced

ChristianFreedo:


well, you can continue with the insult, that how the Governing body insult anyone who disagree with their non biblical teachings. However, I have a responsibilty before God and man to expose a religious organisation that has been teaching errors as truth, even lying about their own errors. You may never liked it, no one does. But, in the future, it will be remember that they were some who stood up and exposed the false watchtower's teachings.

Maybe you have forgottten so soon, it was even said in the convention, the church fathers persecuted, expelled and even purnished those that rose to expose their false reasoning. Today, the watchtower publications speaks of those people with glowing terms, as those that stood firm for the "truth". But they fail to recognise that they are playing exactly the same role the church fathers of those period played. They want everything to run through them, even when they are wrong, exactly the same attitute the pharisees of Jesus days had, and exactly the attitute the church fathers that they say all sort of things of.

I think what the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses need to do is to seek jehovah, humbly pray that he forgive them for their actions, seek to make amends and look critically at their doctrines that has been proven to be false and change them. Or they can continue to feel superior to everyone, but they should surely know this, they have a heavy burden before Jehovah for all the lies they have been peddling. They surely do.

They should remember Moses, he only err ones, but as a leader, Jehovah did not take it kindly with him and his brother, Aaron. But will they? Evidence suggest they will not. In the future, I will show this with prove that they are more interested in their claim of being the chosen leaders that they are willing to cover their past lies with more lies.

When I do, I will personally tag you. Let me give you a clue, the lies, misrepresentation and deliberate distortion is in the book "God's Kingdom Rules". That why I said, they will never change their ways. They simple disgust me. What's wrong in showing humility and accepting that you had published falsehood in the past?

Think about the wisdom in the picture below

Nwaiberibe:
I believe in God and Christ his son but I don't believe in the teachings of these mushroom churches. They seem to know how to manipulate their members through false teachings. There are over 16 churches in my street alone, so you can imagine the noise pollution we suffer every Sunday. Nevertheless, I admire are the Jehova Witness people a lot. They always look neat and they're intelligent, and they don't make shout with microphones when they preach. If at all I'd go back to church it must be that church. Only problem is that I'm a chronic sinner and don't deem myself fit to associate with them. But I've made a vow to let my kids attend their church.

damariox:



Let's take a look at how jws deal with suffering.. Do you think they have a biblical support that God does not cause evil... When all the prophets writers continuously emphatically reminds the Israelite how God will bring suffering to them if they disobey his command.

God said it himself. Am The maker of evil and bad. Do you want verses?? Is better you don't


Jws annoyingly are selective in answering this question probably they got you to believe that God is innocent. They bring up James 1 vs 13 and and jobs commentary in chapter 42.. They only backup they got.... The rest of the thousands of verses that disagrees with them kwanu

How misleading.. And you're telling me they study the Bible. For more info join our activist group. We need to save the children from cultism


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damariox:
wow.. Excellent I've been wishing to write this article... Very true. Jw is just a cult.

Christianity has only one leader. Jesus Christ

He is our only High Priest

Jw is not not a religion but a cult.
How?
1)Mind and extreme information control

2) Shunning and disfelowshiping of people who disagree with watchtower (non biblical teachings)

3) Shunning and disfelowshiping those that oppose local elders ( shamelessly citting korah rebellion)

4)thoughts control and membership friendliness regulation (very strict) DONT INTERACT OR SAY HI TO AN EX MEMBER (he might give you information that will definitely stir doubts)

5) In group affection and out group hatred (is wrong to make friends with people who are not jws) BAD ASSOCIATION!!

6) Coded Languages (Eg publishers, pioneers, etc)

damariox:


You should cover your face in shame... Shameless jw defender.
What of the great tribulation videos? A brother shunning his own very blood brother's generous gifts of assistance.. Reason he's no more a witness.

A girl shunned and sent away by her parents cus she disagrees with the teachings of the watchtower. Her parents refused even to pick their daughters phone calls.

So disgusting all of you sat down happy and glad to view the bunker videos how jws should treat non jws especially ex jws... Shun them, disgrace them in public.. If possible avoid eye contacts.


What a cult

dolphinheart:

what is the name of your church and what do they do to those who rebel against its teachings

olaolaking:

Again, your sincerity is at zero level. I never insulted you. I only say the truth. Do you still attend their meetings at their kingdom hall? Do you smile with them as they use to do in that place? Do you shake hands with them? Do you still participate in their activities even if you know it is wrong as you claim? Why? Again, this is not about religion anymore. Your personality should be questioned.
I was so disturbed few years ago that I stopped all activities relating to them. I questioned myself and because I wasn't convinced about the questions. I stopped.

So what do you tell them when in their mist? You pretend laugh and accept them? How many of them have you revealed your true mind to? This alone disqualifies you as a person of integrity.

So I can still translate you to be a lier if you still give them impression that you are one of them when you are truly not. If truly there is a God, do you think he will be happy with this your attitude?

I have always respected the opinions of others but your case is pathetic. A reasonable person should question you if all the questions raised here are true. A true chameleon

ChristianFreedo:


You can continue to question all you want. That is your opinion. When it's time, of I so desire, I'll leave them, not at your behest.

However, I have the moral burden to exposed what I know is wrong. Or have you never heard of whistle blower?

wellmax:


JW says....
"To get one's name written in that book of life will depend on one's works, whether they are in fulfillment of God's will and approved by his Judge and King." (Watchtower, August 15, 1972). ...


but the Bible says...
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9, NIV)

damariox:



Other churches (protestants, Catholics) do nothing rather than simply expel an apostate. That's what the Greek word implies. Why would you add cultist actions to an apostate.. Actions like shunning, labeling "mentally diseased " and demon agent. That someone doesn't agree with a church teachings doesn't make him an anti Christ