benzics:

Good question, I give you that.

Now I might be believing the wrong persons to be my grandparents, but that doesn't mean I don't have real grandparents, the existence of my grandparents are facts ..

Now the case is different with a God, you don't even know if there is a god not to talk about him being the right god, you just hold "beliefs", the existence of God are not facts ...

Eastactivist:


Lol!!! The ten commandments was revealed to Moses...
I didn't see you arguing that o...
Hypocrite

benzics:

Good question, I give you that.

Now I might be believing the wrong persons to be my grandparents, but that doesn't mean I don't have real grandparents, the existence of my grandparents are facts ..

Now the case is different with a God, you don't even know if there is a god not to talk about him being the right god, you just hold "beliefs", the existence of God are not facts ...

randomperson:

I said both are lies... But some sound less stupid than the other

4kings:

@bolded
4evergod what do you think?

randomperson:

So how can we rely on stories that are passed through oral tradition... Those kind of stories are usually altered over the years and there's no way to confirm

benzics:
because simple and short, every human is a result of reproduction, so I had people reproducing before I was born!

Anas09:

benzics
AyeHateGod
HopefulLandlord.
Why can't you boys try doing what 4kings is doing here?

benzics, from the beginning of this thread, you have never touched one single point in the Op. What is so difficult in the Op?

Where is hahn?

DoctorAlien:


The first human being was as a result of what?

Eastactivist:


Surely the Bible can't contain all the events else it will be a whole lot of work that may end up not seeing its purpose.
However you relied on your fathers words and evidences to accept him as your father and your mother being your mother. This is how the Bible procress came to be through family chronological records.
Most of the things in the Bible are what happen before the Bible was made, the pieces of those events what was put together to make up the chapters of the Bible are what occurred in specific generation..
You can't deny this fact...

hahn:


I don't know if you have noticed but I am not a scientist. I am a business man and evolution o jawo

benzics:

I know I have an uncle because my dad has siblings, my grandfather existed because for someone like my father to come about, he must have been given birth to

KingEbukasBlog:

DoctorAlien:


The first human being was as a result of what?

randomperson:

That I believe my father is my biological father doesn't make it true... If he's not actually my father, me believing he is doesn't change that fact... Works the same way with the bible. U believe the stories but it doesn't make them true

randomperson:

Of course he can't say for sure... But u can't either.
It's just like asking... Did Adam have a navel- if he existed.

KingEbukasBlog:


There are enough archaeological evidences to support most bible stories - even Sodom and Gomorrah

https://www.nairaland.com/2674904/pics-archaeologists-discover-city-sodom

Stories like Jonah , Noah are sometimes taken as allegories

DoctorAlien:


But he was the one that said with certainty that "every human is as a result of reproduction."

I know for sure that not every human being who has existed was as a result of reproduction. The first human must necessarily be created by GOD. The Bible tells me so.

Now over to you. Prove that the Bible is not true.

randomperson:

Really?? The ones u presumably have evidence of are true but the ones that are scientifically impracticable are allegories?? That's speaking from both sides of your mouth

randomperson:

Really?? The ones u presumably have evidence of are true but the ones that are scientifically impracticable are allegories?? That's speaking from both sides of your mouth

4everGod:


Ebuka believes in micro mutations but sees Macro evolution as a huge farce which is true.

Regarding the rest he will change with further proof as i believe he holds loosely to them. However creation is solidly his foundation.

randomperson:

The onus of proof is on you... Even in the courts of law, u are not required to prove the negative. That's why the onus is on he who asserts

KingEbukasBlog:


How is this abstruse ? I clearly said 'sometimes' . There are so many Christians in the early centuries even before the archaeological evidences for many other bible stories who took the aforementioned events as allegorical .

KingEbukasBlog:


Nature serves as Evidence for God .

randomperson:

The onus of proof is on you... Even in the courts of law, u are not required to prove the negative. That's why the onus is on he who asserts

randomperson:

Why can noah's flood be allegorical and Sodom and Gomorrah not be... They are basically the same message

randomperson:

Nature is not evidence of god... If anything, it's evidence that there is no god... There are plants that kill people, there is a worm whose lifespan is only to eat the eyes of human beings, there are NATURAL disasters... People die from winter's frostbite and summer's heatstroke...
U cannot ascribe the beauty of nature to god whilst ignoring it's ugliness

DoctorAlien:


Calm down. I'm not asking you to prove the d(F(x))/dx = 2xyIn3xsin2. The Bible says that the first man was created by GOD. Prove that the Bible is wrong.

Stop running away from the proof. It is not mathematical induction.

randomperson:

Nature is not evidence of god... If anything, it's evidence that there is no god... There are plants that kill people, there is a worm whose lifespan is only to eat the eyes of human beings, there are NATURAL disasters... People die from winter's frostbite and summer's heatstroke...
U cannot ascribe the beauty of nature to god whilst ignoring it's ugliness

KingEbukasBlog:


Death is a part of life . Earthquakes and Tsunamis make earth more habitable for advanced life while it also check population . Some diseases developed due to the threat of other diseases to make the life form immune to the more deadly disease E.g Sickle cell repels the threat from Malaria . Diseases also help to check population when it leads to death . And knowledge of diseases helps man understand nature more .

All these are integral parts of life . It makes life what it is . For those who believe in reincarnation , the souls of those victims including death by natural cause go back to God , only to incarnate as flesh and bone to continue to add their quota in the cycle of life .

God is one Great Designer .

randomperson:

Nature is not evidence of god... If anything, it's evidence that there is no god... There are plants that kill people, there is a worm whose lifespan is only to eat the eyes of human beings, there are NATURAL disasters... People die from winter's frostbite and summer's heatstroke...
U cannot ascribe the beauty of nature to god whilst ignoring it's ugliness

KingEbukasBlog:


Dude , I said sometimes - this means some Christians see it as an allegorical and some see it as literal .

Here is MrPresident1 who sees almost everything as an allegory : https://www.nairaland.com/1573781/allegorical-stories-daniel-job-noah