mmsen:


You need to direct your request towards the OP - I have only quoted that which he claims to have pulled from the Quran.

Not that it matters, this is far from the only instruction of violence in that book.

tintingz:
The Quran talk about both fornication and adultery(unlawful sex).

I'm not here to argue about this.

The Quran talk about ablution so also the Hadith, there is no aguement on this.

The case where punishment for adultery differ from each books?

Farmerforlife:


This is only perceived as an instruction of violence by those whose mind is violent. Figures of speech, or other communication can be interpreted by different people in different ways based on their mentality. The Roscharch test in psychiatry is applied based on the same principle, just to show you that what I say does have scientific backing. For those who read the hadith and understand its figure of speech in the original language in which it was spoken, and have pure hearts and minds, it implies no intent to burn any houses. For those who nurse a burning hatred for Islamic monotheism and seek to acquire tithe payers by all means to help bear the cost of fueling their Pastor's private jets, any statement is grist for their propaganda mill.

mmsen:


Telling people to set fire to someone's home because they won't pray with you is violence.

But keep lying to yourself that it's somehow a message a peace if that is what soothes your fragile mind...

Rilwayne001:


No it's not. It's a compliment.


Since that's what you feel and it flies your jet, then so be it. But he aware that it is subjective to you and not to reality.



Swearing words? Where? I'm just imploring you embrace love and not hate. You are always filled with hatred for those who don't accept your views. I ask you, are there compulsion in religion? If you try to propagate what you deem as truth and people refuse to accept it, why is it always hard for you to mind you business instead of calling them names?

Your activities here speaks volume. If you are not attacking Albaqi.r, it would be empiree and other brothers who don't follow your creed. I repeat your kind is the reason why people generalize that Muslims are violent. Like i said the other day, your kind will crush people that have a different belief with stone. If you say what you feel to be the truth and people refuse to accept, then leave them be.



Burst like balloon lol. Maybe you think I'm really perturbed by your arrogance and hatred. Sorry, I've seen more violent ignorant folks like you.



Why don't you kuku email Seun and tell him to make you and admin so that you can easily delete my posts and other posts that doesn't go down well with you? At least that'll be better.

Farmerforlife:


He told people to set fire to someone's home? And just who did he tell to set fire to someone's home, and did they disobey him, or were the homes set on fire? Do you see how you constantly try to change the actual statement in subtle ways just to arrive at your objective, knowing that the real meaning is not supportive of your assertion? The worst form of deceit is self-deceit.

mmsen:


I haven't changed anything.

You are claiming that he something that is written in ink isn't as it is recorded.

Maybe you need to address the author(s) of the Quran instead of wasting your time with me.

mmsen:


I haven't changed anything.

You are claiming that he something that is written in ink isn't as it is recorded.

Maybe you need to address the author(s) of the Quran instead of wasting your time with me.

Farmerforlife:


Explain to me how "I was thinking of establishing the iqamah, then ordering...etc (your own citation and interpretation)" translates as "go and set people's homes on fire". Basically you lied, he did not tell anyone to set people's homes on fire, but you said he did.

And it is not even in the Quran. Your ignorance just adds to the mix of your other endearing traits.

Try to reason in a logical and objective manner.

Demmzy15:
From all observations you're confused. Can't you take simple explanations, stop implying what was never meant in the hadith.

My advice to brothers here is to let the issue slide, this is the 4th page for crying out loud, explaining the same thing over and over again is annoying.

mmsen:


“I was thinking of ordering a
man to give the iqaamah, then I would order
a man to lead the people in prayer, and I
would go with some men carrying bundles
of firewood, to people who do not attend the
prayer in congregation, and I would burn
their houses down around them.”

Are you still going to lie and claim that this is not in the Quran or are you going to revert to the original lie that it was 'mistranslated'?

Farmerforlife:


At least have the decency to quote the hadith in full. You cited half the hadith a number of times, not once did you cite it correctly. How can you start a sentence with 'then'? Stop the insincerity. If you want to debate, base your reasoning on facts, not your personal fabrications.

tintingz:
The Sunnis have their hadith and the shias have their hadiths they follow and they call themselves Muslims. who is the hypocrite here?

RABIUSHILE04:
In a nutshell, yah ikhwanul Imaan, I salute ur sabr in explaining to halfwits like 'tintingz' and d oda fella.My CHILL no reach una level, I'm positively envious of u KB, F.choice. May Allaah grant us Jannatul firdaws.

Rilwayne001:


And there goes Mr 'fullwit' with his own name callings. Well, I'm not surprised. Birds of same feather - they say - flock together.

Rilwayne001:


Mr Albert Einstein, please believe whatever that makes you sleep and let me hold on to that makes me sleep too. Live and let's leave, that should be your mantra and not hate. Whatever you think you don't know, try to explain and if people don't accept your explanation, then keep shut and mind your fucking business instead of insulting them.

You see, i said it the other day that your kind will physically attack anyone that dare have a different view of the views you hold. Biko, allow flow of LOVE OF OTHER PEOPLE irrespective of whatever they believe — in your life. There's no compulsion in religion.

Enough said

RABIUSHILE04:
In a nutshell, yah ikhwanul Imaan, I salute ur sabr in explaining to halfwits like 'tintingz' and d oda fella.

My CHILL no reach una level, I'm positively envious of u KB, F.choice.

May Allaah grant us Jannatul firdaws.

RABIUSHILE04:


I think you're the HYPOCRITE here!

FriendChoice:



Let me just allow you. It's does not differs. Check the sahih translation of Qur'an. It says fornicator not adulterer. Unmarried person. Anyway bye bye.

tintingz:
Pickthall and Yusuf Ali translation said Adultery.

tintingz:
Mr man your insults is getting too much, don't push me to wall, I can insult you.

FriendChoice:


Sahih translation is the best translation.. And the verse after it explain who Qur'an is talking on, fornicator or adulterer. ?

The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.


The fornicator does not marry except a [female] fornicator or polytheist, and none marries her except a fornicator or a polytheist, and that has been made unlawful to the believers.

The Qur'an said a zani does not marry except a zaniyatu.

That means he is unmarried. Adulterer is already married, that's what makes him/her adulterer.

RABIUSHILE04:



Who cares if u insult me or not..shioo..

It is not an insult if it is the truth o 'tintingz'!!!

RABIUSHILE04:

I'm sure your name is Ridwan.

What is the full detail and meaning of
“Ridwan” )ﺭﺿﻮﺍﻥ( Pleasure, joy, happiness – Ridwan is the name of
the chief of the caretakers of Jannah.
Are you a good example!? Be a good example!

mmsen:
"then I would order a man to lead the people in prayer, and I would go with some men carrying bundles of firewood, to people who do not attend the prayer in congregation, and I would burn their houses down around them.”

Sound like terrorist activities.

mmsen:
"then I would order a man to lead the people in prayer, and I would go with some men carrying bundles of firewood, to people who do not attend the prayer in congregation, and I would burn their houses down around them.”

Sound like terrorist activities.

Rilwayne001:


Definitely.



I believe i am a good example of what my name signify. The question i have for you then is that, are you following the good example of your beliefs? Does your belief allow you to call your fellow names like "halfwit"? Do you really know the meaning of "halfwit"?

Here: In case you don't know

ˈhɑːfwɪt/

noun informal

a foolish or stupid person.

Apparently this is morally right according to your beliefs because i believe if not, you won't call your fellow brother with such informal word. It is people like you and Kabir that terrorize people who don't agree with their views about things. From direct insult it gets to physical attack and from physical attacking others it gets to terrorizing people. Keep it up ehn!!