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Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by truthmans2012: 3:55pm On Dec 28, 2016
There were many pagans' religions in most parts of the then world before the advent of islam, which their symbol was the Moon. Who then chose the same moon symbol for Islam? What is the reason for having a uniform symbol with those muslims call kafir? What is the relationship between Muslims' Allah and the gods of the pagans?

Why would the true God identify with the moon symbol being used by idol worshippers, not just in Saudi Arabia but throughout the world?

Why would Abraham who is claimed to be the founder of Islam in Mecca choose the symbol of the moon following the ways of idolaters?

Archeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most widespread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjøberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites."
In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. For example, Istar was a daughter of Sin. Sacrifices to the Moon-god are described in the Pas Shamra texts. In the Ugaritic texts, the Moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia, as well as in Egypt, the Moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues. He was the Judge of men and gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the Moon-god (see: Deut. 4:19;17:3; II Kngs. 21:3,5; 23:5; Jer. 8:2; 19:13; Zeph. 1:5, etc.) When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually the cult of the Moon-god. As a matter of fact, everywhere in the ancient world, the symbol of the crescent moon can be found on seal impressions, steles, pottery, amulets, clay tablets, cylinders, weights, earrings, necklaces, wal murals, etc. In Tell-el-Obeid, a copper calf was found with a crescent moon on its forehead. An idol with the body of a bull and the head of man has a crescent moon inlaid on its forehead with shells. In Ur, the Stela of Ur-Nammu has the crescent symbol placed at the top of the register of gods because the Moon-god was the head of the gods. Even bread was baked in the form of a crescent as an act of devotion to the Moon-god. The Ur of the Chaldees was so devoted to the Moon-god that it was sometimes called Nannar in tablets from that time period.

During the nineteenth century, Amaud, Halevy and Glaser went to Southern Arabia and dug up thousands of Sabean, Minaean, and Qatabanian inscriptions which were subsequently translated. In the 1940's, the archeologists G. Caton Thompson and Carleton S. Coon made some amazing discoveries in Arabia. During the 1950's, Wendell Phillips, W.F. Albright, Richard Bower and others excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib (the ancient capital of Sheba). Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 8:04am On Dec 29, 2016
Why is nobody answering the questions posed by the op?

Could it be Yahweh the God of the Bible who seriously warned against moon worship as stated in the op that would still approve of moon symbol for muslims?

Going by the op, it should be reasonable for anyone to conclude that Yahweh and Allah are not the same Being, otherwise Allah would not have approved what Yahweh hated. Then, who is Yahweh and who is Allah?

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 29, 2016
ومن ءايٰته الّيل و النهار و الشمس و القمر لا تسجدوا للشمس و لا للقمر و سجدوا لله الذي خلقهن ان كنتم اياه تعبدون

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2016
lexiconkabir:
ومن ءايٰته الّيل و النهار و الشمس و القمر لا تسجدوا للشمس و لا للقمر و سجدوا لله الذي خلقهن ان كنتم اياه تعبدون

Wh did you answer in Arabic questions asked in English? What are you hiding?

Who chose moon symbol for Islam?

Why the choice of moon symbol for islam since idolaters of various countries had been using it before Islam?

You often claim the various pagan rituals done in Mecca today were what Abraham and Ishmael were doing before pagans hijacked it, which prophet Muhammad restored to Islam. Why is the moon symbol which was the symbol of various idolaters outside of Saudi Arabia and inside it adopted as Islamic symbol? Why the compatibility of pagan rituals and moon symbol with Islam?

I want your answer in English please. Thank you.

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Nobody: 8:27pm On Dec 29, 2016
talkingtruth:


Wh did you answer in Arabic questions asked in English? What are you hiding?

Who chose moon symbol for Islam?

Why the choice of moon symbol for islam since idolaters of various countries had been using it before Islam?

You often claim the various pagan rituals done in Mecca today were what Abraham and Ishmael were doing before pagans hijacked it, which prophet Muhammad restored to Islam. Why is the moon symbol which was the symbol of various idolaters outside of Saudi Arabia and inside it adopted as Islamic symbol?

I want your answer in English please. Thank you.

يا ايها الناس اعبدوا ربكم الذي خلقكم والذين من قبلكم لعلكم تتقون

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 8:38pm On Dec 29, 2016
lexiconkabir:


يا ايها الناس اعبدوا ربكم الذي خلقكم والذين من قبلكم لعلكم تتقون

Readers would now know you have no point.

But one thing is certain: you can't worship an idol believing it is God and make heaven. You have no excuse before God as the truth has been made known to you.

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Nobody: 9:03pm On Dec 29, 2016
talkingtruth:


Readers would now know you have no point.

But one thing is certain: you can't worship an idol believing it is God and make heaven. You have no excuse before God as the truth has been made known to you.

اعوذ بالله ان اكون من الجاهلين

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 9:10pm On Dec 29, 2016
lexiconkabir:


اعوذ بالله ان اكون من الجاهلين

grin grin grin

No answers !!!!
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 12:52pm On Dec 30, 2016
Circumambulation is to go in circles around a particular object. In Islam, worshippers and pilgrims do this around the Ka'aba at Mecca. Pre-Islamic pagans used do it to please the moon god Hubal, the 360 deities and Allah (who was merely one among the many deities worshipped there). Muhammad himself used to do it, even before the 360 idols inside the Ka'aba were removed.

Judaism and Christianity (the religions of those who are considered People of the Book) do not practice ritual circumambulation to please God. Two other faiths which do are Hinduism and Buddhism, are eligions older than Islam and accused by Islam of “paganism” and practicing idolatry.

Why would Abraham and Ishmael be practising in Mecca the same thing the Hindus and Buddhists were doing to their gods?

Then, how true could it be that Abraham and Ishmael were the originators of the Islamic rituals in Mecca, which were not known in Judaism and Christianity that existed before it?

Why should Allah be worshipped in the way of the Hindus and Buddhists and again have moon symbol like other pagan religions?

Let's leave religious sentiments apart and be objective for once.

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Mazeed(m): 3:18pm On Dec 30, 2016
Point of correction; Islam is already a symbolic religion from Allah by our way of unique form of worship, and mind out Allah said; {وَمِنْ آيَاتِهِ اللَّيْلُ وَالنَّهَارُ وَالشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ ۚ لَا تَسْجُدُوا لِلشَّمْسِ وَلَا لِلْقَمَرِ وَاسْجُدُوا لِلَّهِ الَّذِي خَلَقَهُنَّ إِن كُنتُمْ إِيَّاهُ تَعْبُدُونَ} 41:37) And of His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate yourselves before the sun, nor before the moon, but prostrate yourselves before Allah Who created them, if it is Him that you serve. [فصلت : 37]
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Mazeed(m): 3:19pm On Dec 30, 2016
Point of correction; Islam is already a symbolic religion from Allah by our way of unique form of worship, and mind you Allah said; {وَمِنْ آيَاتِهِ اللَّيْلُ وَالنَّهَارُ وَالشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ ۚ لَا تَسْجُدُوا لِلشَّمْسِ وَلَا لِلْقَمَرِ وَاسْجُدُوا لِلَّهِ الَّذِي خَلَقَهُنَّ إِن كُنتُمْ إِيَّاهُ تَعْبُدُونَ} 41:37) And of His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate yourselves before the sun, nor before the moon, but prostrate yourselves before Allah Who created them, if it is Him that you serve. [فصلت : 37]
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 5:07pm On Dec 30, 2016
Mazeed:
Point of correction; Islam is already a symbolic religion from Allah by our way of unique form of worship, and mind you Allah said; {وَمِنْ آيَاتِهِ اللَّيْلُ وَالنَّهَارُ وَالشَّمْسُ وَالْقَمَرُ ۚ لَا تَسْجُدُوا لِلشَّمْسِ وَلَا لِلْقَمَرِ وَاسْجُدُوا لِلَّهِ الَّذِي خَلَقَهُنَّ إِن كُنتُمْ إِيَّاهُ تَعْبُدُونَ} 41:37) And of His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate yourselves before the sun, nor before the moon, but prostrate yourselves before Allah Who created them, if it is Him that you serve. [فصلت : 37]

The questions are: why the choice of moon as Islamic symbol, which had been in use by idolaters in the various parts of the world before islam?

Why are there so many similarities in islamic worship in Mecca and pagan worship the world over?

God specifically stated that He should not the worshiped the same ways pagans worship their gods (Deut. 12:31). Why then are Muslims worshiping Allah like pagans worship their idols?

The rituals that are being done in islam are not known or done by God:s prophets who lived after Abraham in the Bible, why such rituals in islam, which also tally with pagan worship: Buddhists, Hindus, and other pagan worship the world over?

That Abraham and Ishmael initiated islamic rituals in Mecca is unacceptable. Was it Abraham and Ishmael who also initiated it for the Hindus, Buddhists and other pagans everywhere? Why must Allah be worshipped like pagans worship their gods?

Please also note that when
circumambulating in Mecca, the way worshippers tie their clothes is the exact way Ogbonis, Ifa and other traditional Yoruba worshippers tie their clothes too when worshipping their gods.

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 5:40pm On Dec 30, 2016
To crown it all, the Quran confirms that islamic rituals they do in Mecca is the custom of the pagans and not the custom of Abraham and Ishmael:

[Qur'an 2:158 Pickthal] Lo! (the mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwah are among the indications of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who is on pilgrimage to the House (of Allah) or visiteth it, to go around them (as the pagan custom is). And he who doeth good of his own accord, (for him) lo! Allah is Responsive, Aware

Why would the true God say it is no sin to continue with the custom of the pagans, when he had once said he should not be worshipped like pagans worship their gods?

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Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Mazeed(m): 8:35pm On Dec 30, 2016
You see, what you should understand here is this, we Muslims don't worship the moon it is only that the moon is significant in aspect of our worship, for instance; there are two standard way we use to begin and end our fast and the first one is that for the fact that we Muslims have our lunar calendar we do not fast nor end our fast unless and until the moon is sighted and if the moon is not seen then that previous month before the month of Ramadan would have to completed as 30 days. So when we now begin the fast the same procedure has to repeated before we break the fast for that month. To buttress more on it Islamic months are either 29 or 30 depending on when the moon is sighted. So we Muslims don't worship the moon and the symbol of Islam is not the moon or the star. The symbol of Islam is what Allah has describe in the Quran; (48:29) Muhammad is Allah's Messenger, and those who are with him are firm with the unbelievers but compassionate with one another. You see them occupied in bowing and prostrating and in seeking Allah's bounty and good pleasure. They are distinguished from others by the marks of prostration on their faces. Thus are they described in the Torah. And their parable in the Gospel is that of a tilth that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it so that it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem. This is a sight pleasing to the sowers and one by which the unbelievers will be enraged. As for those who believe and do righteous deeds, Allah has promised them forgiveness and a great reward.
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Nobody: 12:08am On Dec 31, 2016
@Mazeed for your own good, i think its better you don't argue with him...
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 3:15pm On Dec 31, 2016
Mazeed:
You see, what you should understand here is this, we Muslims don't worship the moon it is only that the moon is significant in aspect of our worship, for instance; there are two standard way we use to begin and end our fast and the first one is that for the fact that we Muslims have our lunar calendar we do not fast nor end our fast unless and until the moon is sighted and if the moon is not seen then that previous month before the month of Ramadan would have to completed as 30 days. So when we now begin the fast the same procedure has to repeated before we break the fast for that month. To buttress more on it Islamic months are either 29 or 30 depending on when the moon is sighted. So we Muslims don't worship the moon and the symbol of Islam is not the moon or the star. The symbol of Islam is what Allah has describe in the Quran; (48:29) Muhammad is Allah's Messenger, and those who are with him are firm with the unbelievers but compassionate with one another. You see them occupied in bowing and prostrating and in seeking Allah's bounty and good pleasure. They are distinguished from others by the marks of prostration on their faces. Thus are they described in the Torah. And their parable in the Gospel is that of a tilth that puts forth its shoot, then strengthens it so that it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem. This is a sight pleasing to the sowers and one by which the unbelievers will be enraged. As for those who believe and do righteous deeds, Allah has promised them forgiveness and a great reward.

Friend, thank you for taking your time to write the above post. It shows how zealous you are for God. But there is what is known as "faith and truth". Unfortunately, many people have strong faith in what is not the truth.

No one is accusing you of worshiping the moon. But since many pagans worshipped the moon and had moon as their symbol, it is just inappropriate for God's people to also have the same symbol for the true God who hates paganism. How could the true God tolerate a symbol the pagans use for their idol? Worshippers of Satan (pagans) should not have anything in common with worshippers of God, isn't that right? Then, why the common moon symbol between Muslims and pagans?

The Quran I cited above confirms that what pilgrims do in Mecca was the custom of the pagans. There are many other hadiths that support it. It is not said to be the custom of Abraham and Ishmael who Muslims say were the initiators of the rituals. If islamic rituals were done for God by Abraham and Ishmael, I tell you the truth, it would not be possible for pagans to perform the same rituals for their idols. You can not worship God and idols the same way. Idols cannot withstand the power and authority in true God's worship.


Besides, Abraham lived in Israel with Sarah, Isaac and Jacob. In fact, the Jews are descendants of Abraham. We are not told where Abraham directed them to go to Mecca to perform islamic rituals. If it is true Abraham initiated islamic rituals in Mecca, is it not reasonable that he should direct the other members of his family to worship Allah in Mecca islamically? You might have also noticed that none of the prophets in the Bible visited Kaaba for worship. Had Kaaba been built by Abraham for all mankind, would he not direct the Israelites to go there for worship? Nowhere, Bible, Qur'an or hadith make us to know that the Israelites were coming to Kaaba for worship, why?

If you want to know more about how Muslims rituals are the same as pagan worship, just click:

https://www.nairaland.com/2287893/allah-loves-pagans-hates-jews
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 8:16am On Jan 04, 2017
Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol? The question is simple and direct but nobody seems to know the answer. Why na?
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Amoto94(m): 12:59am On Jan 05, 2017
talkingtruth:
Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol? The question is simple and direct but nobody seems to know the answer. Why na?
The Moon symbol was popularized by the Ottomans and later adopted by majority of the Muslims in error.

Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by talkingtruth: 9:51pm On Jan 05, 2017
Amoto94:
The Moon symbol was popularized by the Ottomans and later adopted by majority of the Muslims in error.

Why would you say it was adopted in error? If it was an error, why has it not been corrected for years? The fact that it was adopted by the majority and in fact by all shows it was not in error.
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by Nobody: 10:28pm On Jan 05, 2017
lexiconkabir:
@Mazeed for your own good, i think its better you don't argue with him...

LOL, I was actually enjoying the Arabic replies o. Mazeed suppose tag along dey Arabicallise dey go!
Re: Who Chose Moon As Islamic Symbol ? by TheOtherRoom: 3:47pm On Jan 06, 2017
An Object of worship cheesy

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