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Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 3:11pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Junia: The height of your hypocrisy can make one's hair turn grey... u quoted from the Holy Koran and sed Islam is evil, I quoted from ur bible the evils commanded by ur God. suddenly yours is justified. Does ur God change? And I quoted whr Jesus said only God is good, yet u found another excuse. Can't u see the evil spirits have blocked ur head and blinded u to lead u to your eternal torment in hell. And Mohammed is a prophet of Allah sent to mankind. And i ask u again, how would the torture and bloodshed of someone forgive ur sins. why would God need to kill his son to forgive mankind. Does that make sense to u? yes it does because u were taught and indoctrinated that way so u can't reason anymore 1 Like |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
Otem, what about you? Did you lose your religion too? I mean the doctrine of the UFOs you're so passionate about |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 5:48pm On Jan 02, 2017 |
realmindz: There is no where in the Bible where God commanded Christians to kill The people of that time were not born again and they were religious Your quran commands that you should kill unbelievers And you must know that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins Christ came to suffer for us He died .. went to hell and took the penalty for our sins Again He rose again and went to sit at the right hand side of His Father If i were you .. i will pray to God to reveal the truth to me And stop following religion |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Anas09: 12:46am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz:You are preaching Islam but quoting the Bible. See who is calling another person low. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by hopefulLandlord: 1:24am On Jan 03, 2017 |
AnonyNymous: Otemanuduno needs to answer this query |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 1:26am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet:. The scripture had nothing to do with Christianity This was the teaching of Moses And as Christians .. we are not followers of Moses but Jesus Jesus taught us to love everybody including our enemies Don't be deceived .. you need to understand the Bible 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 7:19am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Anas09: He started it preaching Christianity by quoting the Holy Koran. So is he justified while I am wrong. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 7:22am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia: The height of hypocrisy, obviously u are not proud of those parts of the bible and ve chosen to select the one that suites ur preaching. If those parts of the bible are useless, then tear them off Btw, you need to understand the Holy Koran and stop speaking out of ignorance. Islam is peace |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by wirinet(m): 8:00am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia:The teaching of Moses had nothing to do with Christianity? and you people with not let us hear word with Malachi 3:10. 2 Likes |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Wilgrea7(m): 8:06am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: wait a minute.... I'm confused.... you're a muslim ? |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Wilgrea7(m): 8:07am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet: lmao |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 8:43am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet: What i mean is .. Moses wasnt a Christian .. Ofkos u need to pay tithe .. to show God that He was the One who provided for u |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 9:20am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet:lol, that's a straight punch 1 Like |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 9:22am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: Lol Those parts are not useless We still learn alot from there One cannot understand the NT without the OT It teaches us how sin originated .. the law .. how God tried to use prophets to save mankind .. the prophecies of Jesus ... it has the key to why we need salvation etc My point here is .. Christians are not under the law We are to live in love for God is love Well i dnt really understand the how you are peaceful when your prophet says you should kill unbelievers Quran ( 9 : 123 ) – “ O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness . ” |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 9:22am On Jan 03, 2017 |
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Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by wirinet(m): 9:24am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia:And when did Jesus command his disciplines to pay tithe in order to show God that he was the one that provided for them. Where was tithes made mandatory by paul or anywhere in the new testament. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 9:32am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia: You are going at every length just to justify your belief. then u say ur religion is not a religion?? are u dis confused. You said God tried to save mankind using prohoets...so God was not successful? so he had to use Jesus? How dare you blasphem God as not being able to achieve something successfully. Deuteronomy 17 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they DIE!!!!!!. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 9:40am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet: “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others” ( Luke 11:42 ) Actually Jesus didnt want them to neglect the tithe But Paul or any other apostle taught about tithing Now .. we are to give willingly and cheerfully Its in your hands to choose whether u will tithe or not Bkos though the apostles didnt teach about the tithe .. they actually didnt teach against it Well .. we need to seek guidance from the Holy Spirit concerning the issue of tithing |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 9:45am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: Again .. this waa the time of religion These people were under the law Jesus loved and has taught us to love everybody including our enemies Actually God used prophets but man was so sinful that they actually rejected them Therefore He sent Jesus And b4 sending Him He used prophets to announce His coming Which they were willing to obey Him |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 9:47am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: Anyway Why don't u answer anytin i ask u concerning your religion I need you to explain how u are peaceful when unbelievers are to find hardness in u |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by wirinet(m): 10:38am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia: Notice that jesus defined what tithe should consist of. It is definitely not a 10th of your salary. About the apostles teaching about tithes, that is a lie, willing and cheerful given is very different from modern day tithe, which is compulsorily giving your church or pastor 10% of all your earnings. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 10:55am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: Qur'an 3:54 —And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers . You see this and still think allah is god when he is not When God wants to call sam1 to be a Prophet .. will He send an Angel to treathen him and force him to read when he knows he cannot. The Prophet said, "If anyone of you sees a dream that he likes, then it is from Allah, and he should thank Allah for it and narrate it to others; but if he sees something else, i.e., a dream that he dislikes, then it is from Satan , and he should seek refuge with Allah from its evil, and he should not mention it to anybody, for it will not harm him." We know Muhammad did not like this dream, thinking he was demon possessed and that something terrible would happen to him. Therefore, such a dream, but Muhammad's own criteria was from Satan. Sahih Al-Bukhari 5765 —Aisha narrated: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. Then one day he said, "O Aisha, do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head asked the other: 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' The first one asked, 'Who has worked magic on him?' The other replied, 'Labid bin Al-Asam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.' The first one asked, What material did he use?' The other replied, 'A comb and the hair stuck to it.'" According to Qur'an 2:102, magic comes from demons. According to Qur'an 16:98-100, Satan has no power over those "who believe and put trust in their Lord," but only over those "who make a friend of him, and those who ascribe partners unto Him (Allah)." So if Satan only has power over those who befriend him and commit shirk, and black magic is demonic power over human beings, and Muhammad was a victim of black magic, then Muhammad, according to the Qur'an, must have been a friend of Satan who committed shirk! And one other thing. Mohammee killed Kinana ibn al-Rabi and took his wife Safiyya bint Huyayy, as his own bride as his own bride. Could he come from God Qur’an 23:1-6 —The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame. How is it right to have sex with the captives ?? Why should you follow sam1 who didnt even know whether he will go to Heaven or not. Bro be wise Did you know that the Arabic symbols for "in the name of Allah" look a lot like the number 666 in Greek? Google Allah 666 to see more on this issue. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 11:00am On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet: Sorry .. was trying to say they didnt teach about the tithe That is y i sed we need the Holy Spirit to guide us concerning this .. But Paul sed those who preach the word should be supported by those who receive the word Its not linked to tithing tho Galatians 6:6 also talks about giving to the pastors Also not tithes though |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 11:25am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia: So God needs to announce his arrival before coming?? And how has the coming of Jesus stopped sin? And if Jesus father, the bible Jehovah could command deaths and killings of unbelievers, then how much his supposed son? Like I've told u, if u are not comfortable with the old testament, pls tear it off. Islam is a peaceful religion, u need the guidance of Allah to understand the Koran. you need to allow Allah manifest and open your eyes |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 11:40am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz: God made them know that the Christ is coming The coming of Jesus has not stopped sin ... but has taken away our past sins and brought us back to God For the unbelievers that were killed God still loved them that was y Jesus went to hell to preach to them Do i need allah to explain kill to me You see u couldnt say anytin abt wat i posted abt Mohammed ........ I beg u with the mercies of God to sit quietly and read it well Pray to God to teach u the truth I know muslims who did that and are saved now |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by realmindz: 11:48am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia:I observed you are someone that shy away from the truth. That's the height of hypocrisy. Out of the Moses laws of burnt offerings and all, u claim to have done away with them but the only one that involves money is what U still keep and are desperate in justifying. And it's even funnier that tithe was never money in the bible but food products. Is herb money? Do u eat money? They said eat your tithe (agricultural produce) and it's no figurative expression Can't u see that Christianity is the root of religious thieving Deuteronomy 14:22-29 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the LORD your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the LORD will choose to put his Name is so far away), then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the LORD your God will choose. Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice. And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 11:59am On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz:.. From my quote i never said tithe was money Im indeed learning from wat u re sayin Tho i havent enquired more about tithing And Christianity is not a religion . |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 12:18pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz:. . I personally agree with u though We are no longer under the law And the early Christians never taught about tithe |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by wirinet(m): 12:38pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
Junia: Thanks for agreeing to presented facts instead of arguing unreasonably like a lot of other Christians here on nairaland. I admire your type of Christianity who does not dogmatically follow their pastors sheepishly against all logic. New age Christianity has made Christianity and salvation all about tithes and offerings. Without tithes and offerings, these pastors would close their churches and look for other businesses to do. Tithes has been elevated to the most important (if not the only) road to salvation. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
wirinet: That is were most of them eat from Buh they should rather base it on Galatians 6:6 and not tithe |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by Anas09: 5:03pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
realmindz:So, all this venom you have been vomiting its because u r a muslim? Ah, why didn't i guess? Islam with atheists, Sugar and Ant. |
Re: A Thread Strictly For Those Who Lose Their Religion In 2017 by otemanuduno: 5:07pm On Jan 03, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: First of all, what is religion? I think religion means the way people worship their gods. If that is the meaning of religion, then I can simply say that I am not religious but I am spiritual, because I don't worship any god. |
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