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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by healthproblemo: 12:03pm On Jan 08, 2017
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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mytym(m): 12:11pm On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:



I wish the 70 years old age limit will also be applied to politics as well.

Exactly!

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mytym(m): 12:16pm On Jan 08, 2017
uzolexis:

So if a 70 year old is "too old" to lead a church, why do we have pple over 70 being President of our country.

They should apply this 70 yrs age limit to politics as well.

Some of the churches even have it in their Constitution but Nigeria won't touch its Constitution.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 12:18pm On Jan 08, 2017
God2man:
Was it the Government that appointed them or God?
One of the tennets of Christianity,as taught by Christ is to obey the earthly government while we are on earth.
Yes God appointed them,but they must yield to government regulations that are reasonable,because christ beseeched us to do so.
If I had my way,all churches and islamic organizations will be providing annual financial audit to the ministry of finance to account for how they spend the money donated to them by the masses.
In fact,religious organizations will be classified under separate "non-business commercial entities" and taxes would be introduced.They should be able to contribute to our national development,not only spiritually but financially.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jan 08, 2017
LordofNairaland:


However, it doesn't help your argument. No one said 70 meant "too old". Moreover, the 70 years as age of retirement as always been a church stipulation. That the law buttressed it doesn't mean the law finds a 70 year old man incapable of carrying out his administrative duties effectively. So all that stuff about extending it to politics is childish. If Adeboye retires today, he can still contest for the presidency because no one is disenfranchised based on age. You Christians need to grow up now!!!

It seems to me that you don't like to be corrected, even when you discover your fault.

It would seem too that you are a die hard buhari fan.

Then again it would seem that you don't like Christians at all.

But who knows, you could just be exhibiting a double personality problem.

Well...

I hope I am wrong on all counts though...

#smh walks away.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by mytym(m): 12:22pm On Jan 08, 2017
nwamehn:


Interesting! I never knew all along. So, do u know other churches in Nigeria whose general overseers aren't the administrative heads respectively, just like BLW?

I think KICC too, pastor faseru is the Nigerian head. Since the church probably started first in Europe by Ashimolowo before he then thought his home country should have a solid administrative structure.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by fabre4: 12:34pm On Jan 08, 2017
Dotng:


http://punchng.com/adeboye-steps-oyedepo-olukoya-kumuyi-others-follow/



op don't be foolish there can't be 2 general overseers in a church there can only be a national overseer(Nigeria) and a general overseer(worldwide)

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by sbabimbola(f): 12:46pm On Jan 08, 2017
keypad1:


For instance, before a yoruba man will marry a woman he would have given her ''belle'' before the wedding. If not no wedding. And the wedding is a church wedding for that matter. Descrating the name of God and also ''defiling the marriage bed according to the Bible:

hmmmm......na wa oooo

mind you am not igbo neither am i from south east or south south.

Be warned.

NOT ALL YORUBA MEN DEAR, AT LEAST I KNOW OF ONE WHO DIDN'T DO SUCH.

DON'T ASK ME WHO OOOO.

AND BIOLOGICALLY HE'S BETTER THAN ALL THE VIAGRA DEPENDENT MEN.

IT IS A man THAT fears God and is morally pious WHO will not want to be associated with conception outside wedlock.

SOME GIRLS TOO NO TRY OOO. THEY LIKE TASTING WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO EAT. LOL!
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by jide219(m): 12:49pm On Jan 08, 2017
Pastor kumuyi will never step Down we d members will not allow him
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by obinoral1179(m): 12:50pm On Jan 08, 2017
keypad1:
Why are these men all yoruba?

Does it mean God is with the yorubas more than any other tribe?

What baffles me most is the level of tribalism displayed by this particular even inside church. In redeem for instance, 95% of their main pastors are from this same tribe.

I was at winners chapel some years back and i sat close to a woman from south west mumbling to herself that ''they started this church first before it became popular''. It could be she was not given a post in that church.

Why are the southwesterners tribalistic in place of work? Once they head a particular branch they will pack their brothers, as long as you can speak ''wa, ekaaro, mo fe jeun''. Abandoning others to do the dirty jobs.

And they claimed to pray yet commit all manners of atrocities before God.

For instance, before a yoruba man will marry a woman he would have given her ''belle'' before the wedding. If not no wedding. And the wedding is a church wedding for that matter. Descrating the name of God and also ''defiling the marriage bed according to the Bible:

hmmmm......na wa oooo

mind you am not igbo neither am i from south east or south south.

Be warned.
let me explain to you what you don't understand.....



this churches are based in lagos which is a yoruba state and its tends to have more of yoruba in acting capacity than others.... 2 the issue of giving a lady pregnant before marriage is ridiculous. Don't ever used the norms of a particular tribe in yoruba kingdom to judge others. A church that is heavenly minded will not joined a pregnant lady together..... Have seen an organizations own by a yoruba and as over 50% non yoruba as their staff.... Likewise have seen the one with less percentage..... Employer employs those he feels he can trust and work with.... So please get your fact very well and say the proper things... And you need to bring up those organizations that is own by the easterner and co if they have yoruba in their key positions....

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by jiorhemen(m): 1:00pm On Jan 08, 2017
masonkz:
The code was suspended by the Federal Government in same 2016 just weeks after being released. Are these people actually oblivious of that? Or just looking for excuses. If you wanna chage your leadership, then do it without bringing the code into it.

Same code would have revolutionised the various industries in Nigeria and not just the Not-for-profit.

No, the law was suspended in relation to the public sector only, and not for organisations like churches and mosques. Churches even quietly challenged the regulation at a high court, but they lost the case, hence the compliance.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by God2man(m): 1:05pm On Jan 08, 2017
EVarn:
One of the tennets of Christianity,as taught by Christ is to obey the earthly government while we are on earth.
Yes God appointed them,but they must yield to government regulations that are reasonable,because christ beseeched us to do so.
If I had my way,all churches and islamic organizations will be providing annual financial audit to the ministry of finance to account for how they spend the money donated to them by the masses.
In fact,religious organizations will be classified under separate "non-business commercial entities" and taxes would be introduced.They should be able to contribute to our national development,not only spiritually but financially.

The Government is appointed by God, the Pastors are also appointed by God.

Where do we go from here?
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 1:10pm On Jan 08, 2017
L0velyn:
jehova look down see what the world is turning into because of politics ..... cry angry

Government need to take their evil eyes away from the church of God, they didn't appoint them a leader but God did....

This is truly the sign of end time devil ruling the world .... God please help us all angry


What will happen if the government start demanding an annual financial audit of all religious organizations?,you need to understand that the reason why many churches run roughshod and are financially reckless is because no one is regulating them,the church is not an earthly authority and therefore,it is subject to the government.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by nwamehn: 1:10pm On Jan 08, 2017
mytym:


I think KICC too, pastor faseru is the Nigerian head. Since the church probably started first in Europe by Ashimolowo before he then thought his home country should have a solid administrative structure.

Thanks boss.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by donnie(m): 1:40pm On Jan 08, 2017
nwamehn:


Interesting! I never knew all along. So, do u know other churches in Nigeria whose general overseers aren't the administrative heads respectively, just like BLW?

I have said the one I am sure of. I dont know about others even though I believe there are such ministries in Nigeria.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by donnie(m): 1:51pm On Jan 08, 2017
EVarn:
What will happen if the government start demanding an annual financial audit of all religious organizations?,you need to understand that the reason why many churches run roughshod and are financially reckless is because no one is regulating them,the church is not an earthly authority and therefore,it is subject to the government.

Has this theiving government finished regulating themselves? They want to regulate the one wey pass them. They should first deal with the greed and selfishness that characterises Nigerian politics before they think of the church.

They envy the church because of the prosperity they see. Unknown to them, the richest and most prosperous churches in Nigeria have the strictest and most disciplined financial policies, systems and personel. That is why God blesses them.

This is not APC or PDP. Rubbish!
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by donnie(m): 2:00pm On Jan 08, 2017
EVarn:
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If I had my way,all churches and islamic organizations will be providing annual financial audit to the ministry of finance to account for how they spend the money donated to them by the masses.

That is why you will never have such power.

EVarn:

In fact,religious organizations will be classified under separate "non-business commercial entities" and taxes would be introduced.They should be able to contribute to our national development,not only spiritually but financially.

So you think they are not contributing already? SMH.
If I think that my money i give in church will be used at goverment's discretion, I will not give. I've already paid my taxes.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by brojoshua: 2:02pm On Jan 08, 2017
That man has lost his kingdom of heaven that he built on the earth and he will also loose the Kingdom of God and he will have his portion in hell on the day of the judgment, as the Lord showed.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by oyans: 2:14pm On Jan 08, 2017
40kobo77:
Thieves all of them.

Who ever thought of this initiative is a genius. God bless you Buhari. All these criminal men of God, hand will still touch them. And the part of the law i love most, is the part that said the church headship cannot be transferred directly to relatives, if not so Adeboye and that criminal in Warri called Orisetjafor would have transferred the Church to their kids and Wife respectfully.

Thief. Ole. Barawo. the TRUE GOD don catch these THIEVES.

And all the MUMU wey dey donate to these criminals, if una quote me here, na OGUN go send SCUD MISSILE come meet una.

Must you display ur ignorance in a issue that you have no knowledge about? God have mercy on your for calling men of God criminal.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Timijo(m): 2:15pm On Jan 08, 2017
The church of God cannot be ran like any other secular organizations. For the fact that Pastor Adeboye stepped down does not mean others will follow suit. Some key leaders in RCCG have been eyeing that post before now. They are the one that sponsored that bill in the house.
They are greedy, they are not loyal, and they are not true representatives of Christ and the church at large in Nigeria.
My prayer is that any Christian in politics who will no defend the church of Christ will be removed and replaced in Jesus's name. Amen!

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Timijo(m): 2:24pm On Jan 08, 2017
Some myopic Christians are still arguing about the law, while some are jubilant.
Our problem is that there is no agreement among us, and that is why this present government is taking advantage to persecute the church.
Some Christians will still be arguing and be in support of this anti Christ government until Nigeria is islamised.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 2:24pm On Jan 08, 2017
God2man:

The Government is appointed by God, the Pastors are also appointed by God.

Where do we go from here?

Government is appointed by the PEOPLE and commissioned by God.
God has placed earthly authority in the hand of the government,and spiritual authority in the hands of the church.What this means is that the Government supercedes the Church on earth.
Churches must obey reasonable government policies.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by DonCortino: 2:29pm On Jan 08, 2017
Adeboye reportedly said, β€˜β€˜At least, nobody can stop me from being a general overseer in other countries of the world.’’

When u were endorsing the tyrant tru the mere commissioner u did not see this coming abi?
Afonjas will pay for their afonjaism!

Nnandi kanu will most def have d last laugh. He warned us all.

Pst. Sulaiman was right afterall, 'the church will face more persecution in 2017'
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 2:33pm On Jan 08, 2017
donnie:

Has this theiving government finished regulating themselves? They want to regulate the one wey pass them. They should first deal with the greed and selfishness that characterises Nigerian politics before they think of the church.
They envy the church because of the prosperity they see. Unknown to them, the richest and most prosperous churches in Nigeria have the strictest and most disciplined financial policies, systems and personel. That is why God blesses them.

This is not APC or PDP. Rubbish!
Indeed,that is why local parish pastors who do all the work are paid peanuts despite the billions of naira that are accrued into the coffers of these big churches every sunday,that is why the churches build big universities and charge fees that most of their common members cant afford.
Yes indeed,I can see how "financially disciplined" and benevolent they are.
So,if the government is corrupt,does that mean the church should go rogue too?
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Johnnyessence(m): 2:36pm On Jan 08, 2017
buchilino:


AM SO HAPPY, COS SO MANY OF DEM WERE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO VOTE BUHARI. I WARNED SOME OF THEM BUT DEY DIDN'T LISTEN.
you have started again in the new year. Stop all this behavior. It doesn't help you. From tribal to religious war. Well let me tell you here it is both d muslims the christians d traditionals and other relious people vote for pmb and Gej.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by aalangel(f): 2:37pm On Jan 08, 2017
Monitoring spirits everywhere....mtchewwww..
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by donnie(m): 2:45pm On Jan 08, 2017
EVarn:
Indeed,that is why local parish pastors who do all the work are paid peanuts despite the billions of naira that are accrued into the coffers of these big churches every sunday,that is why the churches build big universities and charge fees that most of their common members cant afford.
Yes indeed,I can see how "financially disciplined" and benevolent they are.
So,if the government is corrupt,does that mean the church should go rogue too?

You are only re-echoing the lies and misinformation from tabloids. Is it compulsory to be a pastor? Any local pastor or member that is not satisfied can leave.

Church leaders like Pastors Adeboye, Oyakhilome or Oyedepo are themselves, men of faith who live sacrificially so dont be deceived.

They are big-time givers and that's what they live by- their giving.

While local Pastors receive salaries, men like Oyakhilome and Oyedepo I know have since stopped receiving salaries from the church. No payment from Rhapsody or any book sold.

I know this will confuse you. Yes, it is supposed to, because the Chrisrian life of faith is spiritual and you are carnal.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by LordOfNaira: 2:46pm On Jan 08, 2017
Alero3Arubi:


It seems to me that you don't like to be corrected, even when you discover your fault.

It would seem too that you are a die hard buhari fan.

Then again it would seem that you don't like Christians at all.

But who knows, you could just be exhibiting a double personality problem.

Well...

I hope I am wrong on all counts though...

#smh walks away.

1. I don't see how I have a fault there. I quoted her based on her implying that 70 meant "too old".

2. I love Buhari but I am not a diehard fan. I am willing to change if I see that his intentions are not sincere.

3. I am an Osun worshipper and a core traditionalist. Ogun is my patron saint, Osun and Olokun are my mothers and I love all the gods. You cannot expect me to like people who have embraced the religion and gods of other lands. I don't like Christians because they are foolish. They think a Jew is their saviour just because a white man told their ancestors that nonsense. However, not all Christians are foolish. I have come to notice that their pastors are wiser and traditional.
Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by telad(m): 2:48pm On Jan 08, 2017
This should also hold for the President of Islamic council of Nigeria, the Sultan should not hand over to the next one since they are relative

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by nwamehn: 2:55pm On Jan 08, 2017
donnie:


I have said the one I am sure of. I dont know about others even though I believe there are such ministries in Nigeria.

OK boss.

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by Davidolives(m): 2:55pm On Jan 08, 2017
TRIED4NOW:
It's a good thing that Adeboye is going. angry


Adeboye has been fooling us enough.
thank God someone has finally provided proof that Adeboye is a false teacher
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zZWvvaEaY
this is the dullest form of prove have ever watched. like seriously calculation of numbers??

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Re: Adeboye Steps Down, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Kumuyi, Others To Follow by EVarn(m): 3:01pm On Jan 08, 2017
donnie:


That is why you will never have such power.



So you think they are not contributing already? SMH.
If I think that my money i give in church will be used at goverment's discretion, I will not give. I've already paid my taxes.
Amusing.We shall see whether I will have such power or not.Do not assume you know everyone tha crosses your path online.
As for the payment of religious taxes,it is only a matter of time; people give tithes,offerings and donations to churches,but what do they use it for?,they dont even pay their local pastors and workers well,most of them dont even build more churches with the money(instead,it is the local churches that pool meagre resources together to build their own local church after paying tithes and offerings,if not,they have to make do with rickety tapolene and bamboo stalls),they dont engage in corporate social responsibilities like building roads,schools,boreholes,and hospitals for free.
So,what is thier function?

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