This thread is a debate for Anti-Biafrans and Biafrans.

Biafrans are intelligent people and we want to hear your arguments against Biafra and Biafrans that you love to hate. You claim IPOB member lack intellect and are illiterates. Here is your opportunity for prove it

Instead of the usual chants of 'Kuje and Beans', you tell Biafrans why you must live with them by force, even when they seem to irritate.

I hope this discourse will be devoid of tantrums and name-calling. Thank you

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BudeYahooCom:
This thread is a debate for Anti-Biafrans and Biafrans.

Biafrans are intelligent people and we want to hear your arguments against Biafra and Biafrans that you love to hate. You claim IPOB member lack intellect and are illiterates. Here is your opportunity for prove it

Instead of the usual chants of 'Kuje and Beans', you tell Biafrans why you must live with them by force, even when they seem to irritate.

I hope this discourse will be devoid of tantrums and name-calling. Thank you

There is no superior argument Nigerians can make against Biafra.

What are they going to say? How "Lugard Almighty" came to West Africa to bastardise us all with the colonial name called "Nigeria"?

Or is it how we should all continue with the Colonial figment called Nigeria that has already consumed 3 million lives (1967 to 70)?

There is no superior argument, only denials of the obvious

I am not against any secession. However, any group that wants secession should do so legally. Not by calling a country zoo or making inciting statements. The Igbo folks have representatives in the house of assembly. They should tell their reps and senators to push for referendum. Things can't be done violently again. We should learn from history.

BudeYahooCom:
This thread is a debate for Anti-Biafrans and Biafrans.

Biafrans are intelligent people and we want to hear your arguments against Biafra and Biafrans that you love to hate. You claim IPOB member lack intellect and are illiterates. Here is your opportunity for prove it

Instead of the usual chants of 'Kuje and Beans', you tell Biafrans why you must live with them by force, even when they seem to irritate.

I hope this discourse will be devoid of tantrums and name-calling. Thank you

Prince Charlie boy: "Hey mom....is this one of the Ipob touts you were telling me about?"



Queen B; "oh yes charlie...he is one of the aba jews! He wants a civil discourse about one of his many dreams...but just wait till the afonjeezys and gambari child lovers get here...its going to be great!

Jaymaxxy:
I am not against any secession. However, any group that wants secession should do so legally. Not by calling a country zoo or making inciting statements. The Igbo folks have representatives in the house of assembly. They should tell their reps and senators to push for referendum. Things can't be done violently again. We should learn from history.

Well said, thats what I keep telling these people

This is a mines-field to easily pick a ban.

zendy:


There is no superior argument Nigerians can make against Biafra.

What are they going to say? How "Lugard Almighty" came to West Africa to bastardise us all with the colonial name called "Nigeria"?

Or is how we should all continue with the Colonial figment called Nigeria that has already consumed 3 million lives (1967 to 70)?

There is no superior argument, only denials of the obvious

Let's give them the benefit of doubt. They say we are illiterates, even with our degrees, PhDs and M.Sc. I guess Literacy means having a WAEC certificate that can only be found in the spirit world and/or using a NEPA bill in place of it.


You know nigeria negates every bit of common sense that rest of the sane world shares. To be considered literate like their president, you need to have a High school certificate you can't account for (so it seems).

I pray these people get their wish, we are tired of all these threats.

May God help them

Jaymaxxy:
I am not against any secession. However, any group that wants secession should do so legally. Not by calling a country zoo or making inciting statements. The Igbo folks have representatives in the house of assembly. They should tell their reps and senators to push for referendum. Things can't be done violently again. We should learn from history.

The same people that ask for superior argument and hope this discourse will be devoid of tantrums and name-calling will be the first to insult you as usual.

omofunaab:
I pray biafra becomes a reality

bros, o ma chop ban ooooo

Ibos, nobody is stopping you from going back to iboland. Just pack your kaya and go back to biafra. Simple.

Jaymaxxy:
I am not against any secession. However, any group that wants secession should do so legally. Not by calling a country zoo or making inciting statements. The Igbo folks have representatives in the house of assembly. They should tell their reps and senators to push for referendum. Things can't be done violently again. We should learn from history.

How do you expect them to seceed legally when Nigeria was not created legally? That is like asking for a divorce when you never had a wedding.

zendy:


How do you expect them to seceed secede legally when Nigeria was not created legally? That is like asking for a divorce when you never had a wedding.

So how do you think you want to go about it?

zendy:


How do you expect them to seceed legally when Nigeria was not created legally? That is like asking for a divorce when you never had a wedding.

Do you want war or what are you saying?

Eledan:


bros, o ma chop ban ooooo

Lol, na jst prayer bros, no be say i dey promote biafra

Jaymaxxy:
I am not against any secession. However, any group that wants secession should do so legally. Not by calling a country zoo or making inciting statements. The Igbo folks have representatives in the house of assembly. They should tell their reps and senators to push for referendum. Things can't be done violently again. We should learn from history.

1) Good submission, IPOB is LEGALLY recognized in the United Nationa and that's enough. It is nonsensical to expect the gambari-led government to grant a CAC registration to an organization that challenges the right of the gambari muslims to rule over Biafrans. It's common sense and we all know IPOB doesn't need to ask nigeria for recognition, they already have it from a greater body the neutral UN.


2.) IPOB is not violent even though anti-Biafrans would love to paint it as one. They have been very effective in spreading their beliefs and getting people to question the status quo. Fox news, Al jazeera, NY times, Etc have not reported about PDP, APC, Kowa and other pressure groups as much as they've reported about Biafrans and IPOB and that in itself is a GREAT ACHIEVEMENT. You have the right to hate Kanu, IPOB but it is unarguable they deserve respect for their candor and dauntlessness, Kanu especially.


3) The so called Rep, and Senators, Governors earn jumbo pay from the current rot called nigeria. Many of them are products of Godfatherism and were rigged in. They are only looking forward to retirement were they will paid in dollars for a lifetime with your blood and sweat while civil servants are dying in osun and Imo.
Are these selfish people the right candidates to ask for a referendum. Kleptocrats who buy protesters while only the mention of Kanu pull out to people to the streets in Aba, Igweocha, Owerri, Calabar, Uyo, Onitsha and Asaba?

Uwazurike and Bilie human rights have been wasting donations going to nigeria courts before hausa fulani judges to ask for Biafra, when they all know it's a pure jamboree. You expect IPOB to toe the same part?

Eledan:


The same people that ask for superior argument and hope this discourse will be devoid of tantrums and name-calling will be the first to insult you as usual.

And where is the insult? Can we hear your own superior argument about why you want to share the same passport with people you love to hate?

lakhadimar:
Ibos, nobody is stopping you from going back to iboland. Just pack your kaya and go back to biafra. Simple.

That's another thought we've heard from you yoruba especially and I'm sure you don't really consider it superior.
They've tried that before and even were ready to forfeit properties in lagos and kano, we all know how it turned out and I don't think they take your advice. It will not be fair they go home and instead of sitting to build their nation that nigeria helped to destroy, they'll start having to with harrasment from hausa/fulani muslim soldiers who keep killing people in Biafra everyday.

I rather believe we all sit peacefully, organize a referendum like your colonial masters do for their citizens, and allow those who want to go their way to do so without rancour.
Tanzania is peaceful today because the people of Tangaiyaka and Zanzibar came together and DECIDED to UNITE even though they are physically seperated by the Indian ocean. Let us follow the Tanzanian model and stop the bloodshed.

omofunaab:



Do you want war or what are you saying?

Nobody wants war, what we need is a referendum. That is the only way to find out who is a Nigerian and who is not.

BudeYahooCom:


[s]And where is the insult? Can we hear your own superior argument about why you want to share the same passport with people you love to hate? [/s]

You want to form a country on the internet? Go ahead!

zendy:


Nobody wants war, what we need is a referendum. That is the only way to find out who is a Nigerian and who is not.

Buhari can't give you referendum, only the national assembly can do that, they need to amend the constiuition first.

Put more pressure on your representatives in the Senate and house of reps. ..or better still use your population to elect IPOB or secessionist friendly senators in your region.

You have to understand that buhari can't just declare biafra, you waste too much time on buhari.

You need celebrities of igbo origin, footballers to drum support for you. John Mikel obi, Genevieve, emenike, chimamanda adichie etc.

If people start seeing top personalities behind IPOB then everyone will wake up to realize that the agitation is real, nobody will call IPOB illiterates etc.

You need to sell your ideology to your noble men, for now, none of them have come out to support IPOB, they are all protecting their interests.

You can't secede with lies, blackmail and propaganda.
You can't secede with threats etc

Put pressure on your senators, they have more power than buhari. .Anthony enahoro moved motion for independence of Nigeria, that's how it's been done

zendy:


Nobody wants war, what we need is a referendum. That is the only way to find out who is a Nigerian and who is not.

How do you get that if you don't lobby those you spend morning day and night to insult.
Jokers

Eledan:


How do you get that if you don't lobby those you spend morning day and night to insult.
Jokers

The reason why we dont lobby for it is the colonial argument. How can you be lobbying for your freedom when you never agreed to part of Nigeria in the first place? Does that make sense to you? A British man called Lugard came to west Africa and forced several ethnic groups together at gun point. He then declared all the ethnic groups he forced together as 'Nigerians' in 1914.

The whole argument here is that Lugard has long gone back home, so why still hold the people at gun point? The government should recognise that Lugard commited a great evil by forcing people together and therefore, a referendum should be held to give the people the right carry on with the Nigeria Lugard invented or to return as they were before Lugard came.

Nigeria was fraudulently created and it cannot be fraudulently sustained.

Referendum is the only answer or there will never be peace.

zendy:



The reason why we dont lobby for it is the colonial argument. How can you be lobbying for your freedom when you never agreed to part of Nigeria in the first place? Does that make sense to you? A British man called Lugard came to west Africa and forced several ethnic groups together at gun point. He then declared all the ethnic groups he forced together as 'Nigerians' in 1914.

The whole argument here is that Lugard has long gone back home, so why still hold the people at gun point? The government should recognise that Lugard commited a great evil by forcing people together and therefore, a referendum should be held to give the people the right carry on with the Nigeria Lugard invented or to return as they were before Lugard came.

Nigeria was fraudulently created and it cannot be fraudulently sustained.

Referendum is the only answer or there will never be peace.

Go and read your history and the part played by Nnamdi Azikwe. The problem with most of you is that you only woke up in 2015 to notice that Nigeria is not working.
When Awolowo insisted that referendum and a clause to allow any constituent part to secede from Nigeria, ask the reaction of Azikwe.
Who truncated the working Regional governments?
Before you apportion blames to any other Nigerian, look into the direction of Azikwe and Ironsi. Between them, they created this messed up system we all groan about today.

omofunaab:



Buhari can't give you referendum, only the national assembly can do that, they need to amend the constiuition first.

Put more pressure on your representatives in the Senate and house of reps. ..or better still use your population to elect IPOB or secessionist friendly senators in your region.

You have to understand that buhari can't just declare biafra, you waste too much time on buhari.

You need celebrities of igbo origin, footballers to drum support for you. John Mikel obi, Genevieve, emenike, chimamanda adichie etc.

If people start seeing top personalities behind IPOB then everyone will wake up to realize that the agitation is real, nobody will call IPOB illiterates etc.

You need to sell your ideology to your noble men, for now, none of them have come out to support IPOB, they are all protecting their interests.

You can't secede with lies, blackmail and propaganda.
You can't secede with threats etc

Put pressure on your senators, they have more power than buhari. .Anthony enahoro moved motion for independence of Nigeria, that's how it's been done

You dont get it. You cannot get legality from an act of fraud. You cannot ask me to go to court to seek divorce when we were never married. Nigeria is a colonial creation, a forced amalganation of ethnic groups who never gave their permission to its creation. This act of fraud cannot be where Nigeria derives her legitimacy from. The only way Nigeria can made legitimate is to ask the various ethnic groups Lord Lugard forced together in his 1914 pet project called 'Nigeria' via a referendum or if they wish to pull out. If the bases of the Nigerian union is fraudulent, all other things built on top it such as your national assemly and the presidency are all fraudulent

Eledan:


Go and read your history and the part played by Nnamdi Azikwe. The problem with most of you is that you only woke up in 2015 to notice that Nigeria is not working.

Who is Nnamdi Azikiwe? He is only one man. Im talking about the wishes of the indigenous ethnic groups not the wishes of one man.

zendy:


Who is Nnamdi Azikiwe? He is only one man. Im talking about the wishes of the indigenous ethnic groups not the wishes of one man.

So where was the voice of these people before 1966?

zendy:



You dont get it. You cannot get legality from an act of fraud. You cannot ask me to go to court to seek divorce when we were never married. Nigeria is a colonial creation, a forced amalganation of ethnic groups who never gave their permission to its creation. This act of fraud cannot be where Nigeria derives her legitimacy from. The only way Nigeria can made legitimate is to ask the various ethnic groups Lord Lugard forced together in his 1914 pet project called 'Nigeria' via a referendum or if they wish to pull out. If the bases of the Nigerian union is fraudulent, all other things built on top it such as your national assemly and the presidency are all fraudulent

Okay how do you intend to get your referendum?

I have no reason to be against biafra,but my grouse with them is how they call other tribe bad names afonja nd co.they call Nigeria zoo nd hate the s.west this same ipob yoot claim they own Lagos nd are still fighting to secede.
if u wanna secede its either ur representatives (house of rep nd house of Senate) pass a bill for referendum or u secede by going to war nd make sure u Win.
left to me I cant wait to see u guys pack ur load from s.west nd move to ur landlocked 5state

Eledan:


So where was the voice of these people before 1966?

they intend to secede by shouting give us biafra online nd protesting.

you can only secede through referendum nd war,all this online shouting can't save them

Suggesting the agitators ask for a referendum through the National Assembly is a convenient but unfair suggestion. Every Nigerian knows the National Assembly is inept and a waste of money. What tangible impact do they have on Nigeria? Will they suddenly function when Biafra issue arises?