ikupakuti:
^^^

Their headache now shouldnt be the SUFIs. They should go & face JABATA who is practicing the original WAHABISM, not the fake one the are clinging on to today.

The guy has beaten them to it! The same manhaj they use in condemning other is exactly what hes using - ‘KITAB & SUNNAH‘. He said NO “SCHOLARS“ no “TAQLEED“ without KITAB & SUNNAH!

They are always afraid of confronting him coz they‘ve envisage where it will lead to confronting him will blow the lid off the hypocrisy of WAHABIYYA & that, they cant risk!

WAHABIYYA is 5% KITAB & SUNNAH & 95% manipulation of their “scholars“. Its an aqeedah that cannot last! Once you remove the manipulations of those “scholars“ , it will crash! This, they know quite well!

When you coner them, they start quoting their “scholars“ who they actually follow & not KITAB & SUNNAH that they always pretend to follow!

Common SALAF-PLUMBER here they cant counter!

Common bring proof from kitab & sunnah that all bid‘a aint kufur, they start quoting uthaymeen! Coz they‘ve distorted the true meaning of bid‘a!

They should leave SIDI alone & go engage their fatal destruction thats waiting to happen!

Empiree:
^^

You just finding out about Sayyidina Sheikh Abdul Qadri Jilani(ra) just bcus it is recorded he is of Athari aqeeda following Hanbai school? Lol.

Well, Sheikh was staunch sufi. The least you can sincerely say is sufi of today are not like those of yesterday. Alhuhadith of today are not like those of yesterday and so on. Thats fair judgement as i heard from salafi Sheikh. That's fair criticism.

AbdelKabir:
Sufyaan ath-Thawree (died around 161H) said: "Innovation is more beloved to Iblees than sin, since a sin may be repented from but innovation is not repented from."

Empiree:
^
This is interesting. Exactly they knew where the guy was driving them at. They had to chill LOL

There is NO WAY they can possibly counter him. Served them right.

Awon aguntan ati Ole n tele Alfa

Alhusunnah is truly their pain in the neck

ikupakuti:


I think dem ABDULWAHAB, UTHAYMEEN, ALBANI & co failed to cover that angle very well

Now, they wanna start a hopeless damage control.

AlBaqir:




# Similar case here bro.

Albani after condemning shia/Rafidha later found out massive narrators of sahih Bukhari and Muslim among many other "sahih" books were Rafidha. Here, to them Rafidha are liars, worse than Kuffar, and their beloved books next to Quran is filled with Rafidha.

Wallahi al-Albani changed gear and declare that in the field of ilm rijal, only [b]truthfulness and sharp memory of the narrator is to be considered, and not his Aqeedah. [/b]

AlBaqir:




# Similar case here bro.

Albani after condemning shia/Rafidha later found out massive narrators of sahih Bukhari and Muslim among many other "sahih" books were Rafidha. Here, to them Rafidha are liars, worse than Kuffar, and their beloved books next to Quran is filled with Rafidha.

Wallahi al-Albani changed gear and declare that in the field of ilm rijal, only truthfulness and sharp memory of the narrator is to be considered, and not his Aqeedah.

AlBaqir:


# Do you think those guy are here to reason ni? One big problem about fanaticism is blindness and deafness of Aql and qalb.

# I have once cornered them:

* They argue being Shia/Shiism is Bid'ah/KUFR and all that.

* Unfortunately, Nabi in Mutawattir Hadith promised the " the Shi'a of Ali" paradise.

* Their Hadith exposed there are lots of Shi'a among the Sahabah and Tabi'in.

# Now, one of them after clearly seeing the danger, retorted, "you are not Shi'a of Ali". Then, my reply question was, " if I am not, then are you SHI'A of Ali? Can you call/declare yourself Shi'a of Ali?"


# On one hand, they see the excellence of Imam AbdulQadir al-Jilani. They wish to hijack him but their efforts is to first sweep his credential as a master of Sufi under the carpet. Obviously, you cannot eat your cake and have it.

# The point is they've been brainwashed and their heart poisoned on the word "Sufi, Shi'a".

Kaytixy:
Wallahi brothers, I'm very happy for this post and all your contribution May Allah SWA reward all of you abundantly ammeeen. I have a cousin who is an ahlulbidah. He puts a very long tasbih around his neck and carries a very big charm made from their bidah whatever for protection. One day I went to his house to do iqamatul hujja for him by letting him know that what he carries around his neck is Sheila Akbar but he told me that it was not and he was only using it to get close to Allah since then I declared him a kaafir. This person I'm talking about has karatu where people use to come and learn Islam fa. So imagine.

Kaytixy:
Wallahi Wallahi Wallahi brothers if you know what this people do all in the name of Islam you will cry to death. I have lived amongst them and I have plenty sunnatic brothers who were former tijaniyya bit Allah SWA later guided them. In my place every 10 days to the end of Ramadan there is what they y call Ramadan tablet. Its a little paper with Arabic writing on it. They buy it for 20naira and what they do is that they swallow it subhannalah. The last Ramadan I went to my aunts home to try and persuade her from taking it but she refused and felt pitied for her. And this they got from one of their renowned sheikh at okene. There are days in Ramadan that they will have to recite suratul iklas, falaq wa nas during Ramadan in the bathroom naked. Look brothers what I'm saying is not hearsay but first hand experience wallahi.

ikupakuti:


Lols
You notice how they were avoiding him ? All they could mutter was “who is JABATA‘S predecessor on his definition of all bid‘a are kufr ? “ is that a defense ?

They unexpectedly woke up to the rude shock of discovering that their de facto founder ibn TAYMIYYA had been a QADIRI SUFI all along & the evidences are too glaring to ignore & too late to manipulate, that knocked them off balance!

Were you not suprised ? A WAHABI quoting GHUNYA a ‘bid‘a‘ book! something‘s def fishy!

I think dem ABDULWAHAB, UTHAYMEEN, ALBANI & co failed to cover that angle very well

Now, they wanna start a hopeless damage control.

AlBaqir:



Wallahi al-Albani changed gear and declare that in the field of ilm rijal, only truthfulness and sharp memory of the narrator is to be considered, and not his Aqeedah.

Empiree:
Hahaha, interesting. I thought they wouldn't take narrations from kafir bcus they arent trusted. Spoke from both sides of his mouth

This is funny

Empiree:
Absolutely, i do. They should be asked who is their predecessor(s) too beyond Ibn AbdulWahab and Ibn Tayimmiya.



I dont know where the brother(rabiu) went. He opened his thread about sufi dont like knowledge, and quoted Ibn Qayyum, Ibn Tayimmiya to buttress his point. He kept mute, put his tale btw his legs and fled his own thread after i dug up Ibn Taymmiya's sufi profile None of them could refute it.


Caught my attention as well. We better watch out soon bcus them gonna be loving Sheikh Tijani's books too


I guess they were smoking too much shisha and passed out on it before realizing they let the dogs out of cage.

Demmzy15:
Emp.iree Me?!! A miscreant? Chaiiiii!!! I don suffer o!

**pours hot ewedu soup on AlBaqir**

Empiree:
Lol @bolded. Thats knock off. If they can sincerely say they are "shia of Ali", oro pesi je they know the consequences of that


#sheikh Jilani(ra), they are now trying to say he only practiced "zuhd". Demmy is yet to answer me when i asked him what zuhd and sufism mean?. He ran away. Same with Sheikh Adam(ra). They are afraid to label him bid'a, so they retorted to say he only practiced asceticism (zuhd), not taking note that Sheikh Adam was sufi of Qadiriya section as i hilighted in my thread on his profile. They are bunch of confused miscreants except for bodami kabiru (lexiconkabir) who was bold enough to say Sheikh Adam was not vast in knowledge of hadith . He cant deny he said this

Empiree:
Lol, maybe thats not the best choise of word. So you were secretly reading this, hun?

Ewe what... I havent tasted ewedu in yrs faah. I forgot how it looks

you dey look for trouble with albaqir

Empiree:

Ewe what... I havent tasted ewedu in yrs faah. I forgot how it looks r

Rilwayne001:


Egbon, you really are missing a lot o. Here, I can't do without eating Amala and ewedu within 2 days.
What do you now eat over there? Burger and Pizza?

Demmzy15:


He should come and beat me then!!!

AlBaqir:




# Me, beat you? You haven't meet the person that will beat you to pulp when you ask for it in your childish manner.

Omo t'ako tio gbon, ita ni won ti nko iru won logbon.

Na you be the "ita" na, come and teach me "ogbon".

**spits**

Empiree:
^^^

You still dont want to be silenced abi? after all the drama u went through


YOUR POST UP THERE WAS REFUTED BY YOUR FAVORITE Salafi website islamqa http://islamqa.org/shafii/qibla-shafii/33748/was-imam-shafii-against-sufism

Imagine such statement coming out of a great scholar of Islam goes to show you how fabricated that statement was. You are so desperate brov.

Even a dullard doesn't need PhD to figure out the statement was a fabrication

ikupakuti

Empiree:
^^^

You still dont want to be silenced abi? after all the drama u went through

YOUR POST UP THERE WAS REFUTED BY YOUR FAVORITE Salafi website islamqa http://islamqa.org/shafii/qibla-shafii/33748/was-imam-shafii-against-sufism

Imagine such statement coming out of a great scholar of Islam goes to show you how fabricated that statement was. You are so desperate brov.

Even a dullard doesn't need PhD to figure out the statement was a fabrication

ikupakuti

Kaytixy:
Wallahi Wallahi Wallahi brothers if you know what this people do all in the name of Islam you will cry to death. I have lived amongst them and I have plenty sunnatic brothers who were former tijaniyya bit Allah SWA later guided them. In my place every 10 days to the end of Ramadan there is what they y call Ramadan tablet. Its a little paper with Arabic writing on it. They buy it for 20naira and what they do is that they swallow it subhannalah. The last Ramadan I went to my aunts home to try and persuade her from taking it but she refused and felt pitied for her. And this they got from one of their renowned sheikh at okene. There are days in Ramadan that they will have to recite suratul iklas, falaq wa nas during Ramadan in the bathroom naked. Look brothers what I'm saying is not hearsay but first hand experience wallahi.