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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Bcbabe(f): 10:32pm On Mar 11, 2017
tollyboy5:

do you know what go and watch god of Egypt you know they are more serious than we anticipated. but come to think of it why are all this only in Egypt? may be because we don't have white archeologist to come and help us do more research undecided
The white had no history worthy of anything they are/were only stealing BLACK HISTORY!!!

Every Black civilization they conquered; they always destroyed their written record in order to juxtaposition their own over them.......Many Learned civilizations exist in Africa before the emerged!








Ignorance folks will think otherwise! angry angry angry angry

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Bcbabe(f): 10:37pm On Mar 11, 2017
tollyboy5:

do you know what go and watch god of Egypt you know they are more serious than we anticipated. but come to think of it why are all this only in Egypt? may be because we don't have white archeologist to come and help us do more research undecided
The main reason they didn't try coming deep down; let's Ile-Ife, Nok etc is because it will be difficult selling their lie......No white pseudo-civilization race to weave their around in those place!
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Saintmary(f): 10:40pm On Mar 11, 2017
Cutehector:
mehn... How possible it is that they know the name? Because we are talking tens and tens of thousands of years ago...
egyptians always keep record.
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Feraz(m): 11:43pm On Mar 11, 2017
Onegai:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

Their DNA has been studied. Arabs invasion accounts for 10% of modern Egyptian DNA. They are still mostly berbers and co, more related to Libyans and co, desert-dwellers (Tuaregs in Niger are light skinned too), more than dark skinned African.
I was thinking of starting a thread on this. There was this comment read on Quora concerning some of these issues of the Egyptian skin color and was irked. Maybe when I do, I'll let you know.

Great thread explorers!

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Kyllahmc(m): 11:46pm On Mar 11, 2017
grin
Cutehector:
Abeg what is the name of the Pharaoh that dealt with the Israelites ? grin
lol Just a fantasy... No evidence was found anywhere in Egypt to prove that any of that actually happened! Uncle moses can lie sha
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by hollamat(m): 11:53pm On Mar 11, 2017
for Nigeria the area boys of the street go don fence am and dey collect money for u to see it
Nigeria and money are like 1 1

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Funjosh(m): 11:55pm On Mar 11, 2017
Okuda:
If na nigeria now them for don kill the statue start to dey chop am




Chai!.......... We are not that cruel angry
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by daveP(m): 1:24am On Mar 12, 2017
(In dbanj's song intro accent) It's Explorers Again!!!

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 3:17am On Mar 12, 2017
bignero:


i doubt that

i believe it was during ramseys reign....
@Cutehector

the idea of that story of the Genesis is gotten from Egypt defeating the early hebrews when Pharaoh Thutmose II was on his way to Syria, some hebews might have been taken as slaves and the rest forced to pay tribute. the hebrews infact got the idea of worshipping one God(out of the many Gods in Canaan) from Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten. The so called 'Moses'(which is actually an egyptian name) of the bible was a priest in egypt where he learned tricks
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 3:26am On Mar 12, 2017
lyricalpontiff:
With the statue, u will understand that ancient Egyptians were all blacks and the present occupants are Arabs that conquered the land and chased and kill the original blacks. Just as ancient Jews too were black.
jews have always been a semetic people like Arabs, Lebanese etc. Jews are not black
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 3:34am On Mar 12, 2017
Onegai:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

Their DNA has been studied. Arabs invasion accounts for 10% of modern Egyptian DNA. They are still mostly berbers and co, more related to Libyans and co, desert-dwellers (Tuaregs in Niger are light skinned too), more than dark skinned African.
The ancient egyptians were not berbers either, They had an Eritrean Origin but Nilo-saharan culture(ultimately derived from cultures of the Niger-Congo area, that is why you can tell a lot of cultural similarities between ancient Egypt(especially pre-dynastic upper egypt) and old west and central african culture
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Cutehector(m): 4:44am On Mar 12, 2017
OlaoChi:
@Cutehector

the idea of that story of the Genesis is gotten from Egypt defeating the early hebrews when Pharaoh Thutmose II was on his way to Syria, some hebews might have been taken as slaves and the rest forced to pay tribute. the hebrews infact got the idea of worshipping one God(out of the many Gods in Canaan) from Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten. The so called 'Moses'(which is actually an egyptian name) of the bible was a priest in egypt where he learned tricks


so in that case, Thutmose II was the pharaoh who terrorized the people of Israel ba? Wow... Thanks for this revelation...
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Nature8(m): 6:24am On Mar 12, 2017
Nice thread Explorers..
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Explorers(m): 6:53am On Mar 12, 2017
Nature8:
Nice thread Explorers..

Thanks bro.

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by metallisc(m): 6:59am On Mar 12, 2017
Rayhandrinni:
the age my mother should have bore me...i wouldnt need a benz to stay relevant

Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Nobody: 8:24am On Mar 12, 2017
[quote author=metallisc post=54504373][/quote]a broken record you izz yet to reach...
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by thedragon: 11:39am On Mar 12, 2017
Onegai:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

Their DNA has been studied. Arabs invasion accounts for 10% of modern Egyptian DNA. They are still mostly berbers and co, more related to Libyans and co, desert-dwellers (Tuaregs in Niger are light skinned too), more than dark skinned African.

The above link shows a lot of nothing. The average Egyptian is an Arab. "Some studies" showing otherwise with no actual quotes from said studies are deceptive trifles. Here is a quick summary of the admixture analysis--Berber and Arab DNA share--from your own link showing that Egyptians are primarily Arab:

"North Morocco, Libya and Egypt carry high proportions of European and Middle Eastern ancestral components, whereas Tunisian Berbers and Saharawi are those populations with highest autochthonous North African component.[26]"

Moving, on the latest genetic analysis on the Ancient Egyptian DNA proves the pharaohs Ramses, Ahtanten and King Tut were all Negroid Blacks. Pharaoh Ramses' Y-Haplogroup is recorded in the British Medical Journal as E1b1a:

http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e8268
Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study

"Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both
mummies (table 1⇓); using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup
predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a.

The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci
provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker
(table 2⇓). Although the mummy of Ramesses III’s wife Tiy
was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA
and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies
strongly suggest a father-son relationship."

E1b1a is black African haplogroup that today originates and predominates among West Africans peoples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38

"Haplogroup E-V38 is a human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. It is primarily distributed in Africa. E-V38 has two basal branches, E-M329 (formerly E1b1c) and E-M2 (formerly E1b1a); the E-M329 subclade is today almost exclusively found in Ethiopia. E-M2 is the predominant subclade in Western Africa, Central Africa, Southern Africa and the African Great Lakes, and occurs at low frequencies in other areas. E-M2 has several subclades, but many members are included in either E-L485 or E-U175."


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So West African people are Pharaoh Ramses' fatherland people.
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by thedragon: 11:49am On Mar 12, 2017
Onegai:


Not so sure it was Thutmose, I saw on Discovery Channel that Rameses III was the Pharaoh (he ruled the longest).

abagworo, Pharoahs looks was determined by which era. Early Egyptian or Late Egyptian. Rameses I, II, III, Thutmose, Nefertiti, Hapshepsut (long ruling queen), Akenatan etc would look like modern day Egyptians, Ethiopians, Eritrean,Sudanese and co. Later Pharoahs like Cleopatra and Ptolemy were Greeks and would look like dark skinned Europeans.

Went for a couple of exhibits about all of them so some stuff stuck. smiley

Jadeite, start saving up slowly and pick a date and country you want to go to. Egypt will be cheaper but England has good museums too. No dream is too far away if you plan and make sacrifices (no buying expensive phones when you can put it in an account for a plane ticket) smiley

Nigerians have no statues because they keep destroying them in the name of religious fervour. Some MFM pastor burnt her husband's 200 year old ancestral family masks rather than donate them to a museum. No-one wanted to speak to me the day I got a slightly old Bini bell (not up to 100 years sef but probably used in worship). That 100 large clay pot unearthed in the North last year was destroyed overnight because the natives said it was built to hold a "Jinn" (wicked spirit). Why not donate it to a museum let the spirit disturb them and you get paid to get rid of your spirit, ehh? Nigeria's biggest private collector is treated like a Juju worshipper for trying to keep most of her artifacts belonging to Nigerian hands rather than to eager foreigners.

The only DNA analyses on Pharaoh remains supports the notion they--at least true pharaohs like Ramses, Akenatan and Tut--were black African. Ramses' DNA profile analysis is done by DNATribes.com using data from the British Medical Journal. In this analysis Ramses' DNA profile is 96% black African match:

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf

King Tut is about the same 96% black African DNA as Ramses:
http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf



In the above, the Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs were mostly West, Central and Great Lakes (Nilotic) Negro. Then they were had some residual relation to Horner (whom are part black so there would be some relation) and Sahel (who again are part and mostly black so obv there will be some relation). In summary, the Ancient Egyptian pharaohs DNA was black African. The non-black African ancestry found in King Tut, Pharaoh Ramses and Akhaten is insubstantial to non-existent (basically only contamination or basic human match).

Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 12:58pm On Mar 12, 2017
Cutehector:
so in that case, Thutmose II was the pharaoh who terrorized the people of Israel ba? Wow... Thanks for this revelation...
it depends, Thutmose II was the first to defeat and probably subjugate them but the Bible story of hebrews being slaves in Egypt in that magnitude is not supported by evidence. the entire canaanland later came under Egyptian control during the reign of his son - Thutmose III and it stayed so up until Akhenaten. So there are many Pharaohs that 'terrorized' the Hebrews
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by bignero: 1:26pm On Mar 12, 2017
OlaoChi:
@Cutehector

the idea of that story of the Genesis is gotten from Egypt defeating the early hebrews when Pharaoh Thutmose II was on his way to Syria, some hebews might have been taken as slaves and the rest forced to pay tribute. the hebrews infact got the idea of worshipping one God(out of the many Gods in Canaan) from Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten. The so called 'Moses'(which is actually an egyptian name) of the bible was a priest in egypt where he learned tricks


No one is doubting the authenticity of the name moses..we know its an egyptian name( drawn out of water)
yes moses was a prince in egypt...and did indeed learnt their ways..but he forsook all

and whats the basis of your thesis? wheres the source of your information?
am not here to argue mr, but the most read book in the world is the bible, also the most published...,and its empirically proven that it was written by those that claim to have wriiten it, or at that time in history...my bible tells me something u tell me another..shouldi know believe you?

leave story for tortroise, and give your life to christ
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by holocron: 1:27pm On Mar 12, 2017
Onegai:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

Their DNA has been studied. Arabs invasion accounts for 10% of modern Egyptian DNA. They are still mostly berbers and co, more related to Libyans and co, desert-dwellers (Tuaregs in Niger are light skinned too), more than dark skinned African.

Noted. As u well know, modern Egyptians are a mixture of all the races that have traversed that place. They are not similar to the people there in ancient times of the dynastic pharaohs. The ancient Egyptians where West Africans formerly living in the green sahara before it started drying around 5000bc. Some west african sahara dwellers moved to the nile valley and developed to become Ancient Egypt, while the others moved to the river Niger Valley, or clustered round the dwindling lake chad. They also developed great civilizations but not on the scale of Ancient Egypt, but the cultures were similar. Think of the ancient peoples of Ghana, Mali, and Songhai situated in the sahara around the river Niger Valley.They had much more in common with the Ancient Egyptians before the dryness of the sahara eventually blocked communications. The so-called north africans arrived later on.

This subject is very controversial and rejected by many whites (some of them also accept it) as agreement will invalidate the theory of racial inferiority of the blackman which fuels things like slavery, colonialism, and neocolonialism.

@thedragon, provided a more scholarly dissertation. Thank you dragon.
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by holocron: 1:54pm On Mar 12, 2017
OlaoChi:
jews have always been a semetic people like Arabs, Lebanese etc. Jews are not black

Jews as a tribe or nation starts during and after there exodus from Ancient Egypt.
Even the Bible tells you that jews are an ancient Egyptian group. Think about it. JACOB GOES TO EGYPT WITH HIS 11 SONS AND THEIR CHILDREN. 400 YEARS LATER, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS LEAVE EGYPT FOR PALESTINE. Who did Jacob's descendents marry to produce all these hordes? It means the "Jewish" people who left Egypt were something like 90% Egyptians. And if the Ancient Egyptians were black, how would you expect these "jews" to look?
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by 1miccza: 2:10pm On Mar 12, 2017
Nice one Explorers . Read this on listverse. Thumbs up.
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 4:03pm On Mar 12, 2017
bignero:

No one is doubting the authenticity of the name moses..we know its an egyptian name( drawn out of water)
yes moses was a prince in egypt...and did indeed learnt their ways..but he forsook all

and whats the basis of your thesis? wheres the source of your information?
am not here to argue mr, but the most read book in the world is the bible, also the most published...,and its empirically proven that it was written by those that claim to have wriiten it, or at that time in history...my bible tells me something u tell me another..shouldi know believe you?

leave story for tortroise, and give your life to christ

what part of my post do you not agree with? that there were no large numbers of hebrew slaves in Egypt? Egyptians had many slaves from all over their empire, the hebrews would have been few and of insignificant numbers so few that there is no evidence of Hebrew slaves in egypt. or that hebrews were inspired by a priest from Egypt during Pharaoh Akhenaten's reign?

Actually Moses doesnt mean born by water, 'moses' is shortened, you can only get its proper meaning from the full name which is now lost,
Also there is no evidence that Moses ever lived(I am not saying he did not, but there is no evidence that he did), no solid evidence from Hebrews, no reference from Egypt. Don't you think such a prince would have a reference in egypt. Considering the timeline of Israel's creation

the basis is that The bible is not a material for proper historical study, also you say it is proven to have been written by those who claimed to have written it grin grin
The books of the old testament originally do not name any author, as authorship was not considered important, iit was only after Jews came into contact with author-centric Hellenistic culture in the late Second Temple period that the rabbis began to find authors for their scriptures; so books like genesis and exodus were not written by Moses but Jewish rabbis from 800BC-500BC from stories that had been part of the old traditions

The first book of the bible that was really written by the name attached to it is the Book of Ezekiel

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 4:13pm On Mar 12, 2017
holocron:


Jews as a tribe or nation starts during and after there exodus from Ancient Egypt.
Even the Bible tells you that jews are an ancient Egyptian group. Think about it. JACOB GOES TO EGYPT WITH HIS 11 SONS AND THEIR CHILDREN. 400 YEARS LATER, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS LEAVE EGYPT FOR PALESTINE. Who did Jacob's descendents marry to produce all these hordes? It means the "Jewish" people who left Egypt were something like 90% Egyptians. And if the Ancient Egyptians were black, how would you expect these "jews" to look?
what the book of genesis nd exodus states is not history but religion

jews were never slaves in egypt in such magnitude, the jews of that time were mostly nomadic moving around and scattered around canaan When Thutmose III conquered all of Canaan, the jews were tributaries to the Egyptians but not slaves in Egypt
Such a big deal of having the entire Hebrew people as slaves in Egypt would have come with evidence, but there is no such

Not all hebrews were descended from a single man called Jacob
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by rhames(m): 4:30pm On Mar 12, 2017
Cutehector:
Abeg what is the name of the Pharaoh that dealt with the Israelites ? grin

Ramses II The same as the one in the story
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by holocron: 11:58pm On Mar 12, 2017
OlaoChi:
what the book of genesis nd exodus states is not history but religion

jews were never slaves in egypt in such magnitude, the jews of that time were mostly nomadic moving around and scattered around canaan When Thutmose III conquered all of Canaan, the jews were tributaries to the Egyptians but not slaves in Egypt
Such a big deal of having the entire Hebrew people as slaves in Egypt would have come with evidence, but there is no such

Not all hebrews were descended from a single man called Jacob

I wonder what you would regard as history then, if the very existence of ancient texts such as exodus cannot be referred to as historical sources, albeit with exaggerations and minor discrepancies. I repeat, the concept of the jewish race started with the introduction of the mosaic laws when certain nomadic tribes of ancient Egyptian origin emigrated to palestine, ostensibly to escape religious persecution. Some historical sources theorise that these were sects still bent on practicing pharaoh Akhenaton's innovation of one Supreme God, which had been abolished after his death.

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Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Rosskii: 1:28am On Mar 13, 2017
OlaoChi:
jews have always been a semetic people like Arabs, Lebanese etc. Jews are not black

The original Jews were blacks. The Bantu branch of Africans are the original Jews. The current 'Jews' of Israel are Europeans. They are only 'Jewish' by conversion to Judaism, not by blood. Europeans were never a population group present in the Middle East.
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by Rosskii: 1:36am On Mar 13, 2017
Ancient Egyptians - Yes, THE PYRAMID BUILDERS and GLOBAL CIVILIZERS - Were Blacks

- Tomb Art and Sculpture from Ancient Egypt











Pharaoh Tutunkhamun
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by delishpot: 6:44am On Mar 13, 2017
Bcbabe:
The white had no history worthy of anything they are/were only stealing BLACK HISTORY!!!

Every Black civilization they conquered; they always destroyed their written record in order to juxtaposition their own over them.......Many Learned civilizations exist in Africa before the emerged!


Ignorance folks will think otherwise! angry angry angry angry


And Today, look where they are and look where we are
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 10:25pm On Mar 13, 2017
Rosskii:


The original Jews were blacks. The Bantu branch of Africans are the original Jews. The current 'Jews' of Israel are Europeans. They are only 'Jewish' by conversion to Judaism, not by blood. Europeans were never a population group present in the Middle East.
And the original Chinese were also black right?


Who said anything about europeans in the middle east? or current demographics? I'm talking history you talking nonsense. were the original arabs black? were lebanese(descents of Phoenicia) black? were Assyrians black? if these still existing Semetic people were not black why would jews(a fellow semetic group) be black?

thats like saying the original french are white, original spanish are white but original italians are Mongoloid, when all the groups mentioned fall into the same racial category and are known to have shared history and origin
Re: 3,000-year-old Statue Of Pharaoh Ramses II Found Buried In Cairo Slum(Photos). by OlaoChi: 10:51pm On Mar 13, 2017
holocron:


I wonder what you would regard as history then, if the very existence of ancient texts such as exodus cannot be referred to as historical sources, albeit with exaggerations and minor discrepancies.

I regard works from competent historians as history not religious scripts full of myths aimed at driving a point to the divine and heavenly rather than to earth matters

the texts of the bible are not as ancient as you think. when the book of genesis and exodus were written, the Pharaohs had long past the time of the 18th dynasty (the period referenced in exodus). The texts were written centuries after the events attempted to be told, so there re a lot of misinformations in Exodus



I repeat, the concept of the jewish race started with the introduction of the mosaic laws when certain nomadic tribes of ancient Egyptian origin emigrated to palestine, ostensibly to escape religious persecution. Some historical sources theorise that these were sects still bent on practicing pharaoh Akhenaton's innovation of one Supreme God, which had been abolished after his death.
i do not disagree that the jewish race started at that time, I'm saying it did not happen the way the bible states.
at least you are aware of the notion that Pharaoh Akhenaten's idea of one God inspired the Jewish culture of one God

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