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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by analice107: 5:44pm On Mar 31, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


But the Lord refers to the Pastors of the churches in Revelation 1-3 as angels, no?



The man of God must be above reproach, he must not be an habitual sinner (Read 1 Timothy 2:1-9)

"Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil" (1 Timothy 2:7).



Yes.

"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ" (1 Corinthians 11:1).



True. The more reason for us to fear the terror of God.

"Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest to God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences" (2 Corinthians 5:11).



You seem not to understand the gravity of his sin. It is said 'a leader's sin is a leading sin.' One can repent of lusting after women or money but to be living a lifestyle of habitual sin until one gets caught is another ball game. He must first confess to his mentor if he has one and then to his wife/husband before confessing to the elders of the church before he can be delivered from this sort of sin. David had to be confronted by a prophet for him to confess and repent from his sin. smiley
No Child of God can succeed in living a life of habitual sin. Falling sometimes happens doesn't mean he shd be completely cast off. leave him to his Master.
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by hitman2911: 6:34pm On Mar 31, 2017
I decided not to waste my time listening to any interview. I respected and followed the progress and messages of many so called men of God for decades but the happenings in recent time has made me to change my approach. Many secrets are been revealed.
Pastor Adelaja had similar case of sexual harrassment and inappropriate relationships with some ladies in his Ukraine church few years ago. He was told to step down by some of the church board but he refused because the majority supported him. Only God knows if he is innocent or not.
Virtually all church disciplines workers by suspension when found guilty but the set man is untouchtable and is only acountable to GOD. Hypocripsy of the highest order. The ministry is their empire and CEO cannot be punished. By their fruits we shall know them.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by spartan117(m): 7:18pm On Mar 31, 2017
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i supposed Jesus was the standard for the apostle to follow? Are we missing something?
What about u who is ur scandal?
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:28pm On Mar 31, 2017
enshy:


I'm as shocked as you are. I rated him high.
Sunday Adelaja is not only wrong, he has denied the Faith!
Thanks for upholding the Truth as we have been taught.

Way to go bro! cheesy

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:30pm On Mar 31, 2017
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Pastor Sunday Adelaja was just beating about the bush here, something people do when they don't want to say something bad or say someone is wrong. But he is wrong, what is wrong is wrong. Sin is sin and it is wrong wherever you find it. Making excuses don't cut it. The christian is a Christian everywhere and everytime. It's not some kind of clothes you put on when going to church. So him rationalising that humans have many aspects is simple rubbish. Humans may condone and excuse sin, God doesn't. Ask Adam and Eve, or David.

Well spoken! smiley

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by petra1(m): 5:04am On Apr 01, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Have you considered the multitude of souls that will get lost if they eventually find out the truth from outside sources? Supposing the member of the congregation gets to ask the question during a service, should the leader just wave it aside?

We seem to be judging before the time . And We shouldn't make men of God topic . You are already talking as though he is guilty . Let's leave that for sinners to do . He's Innocent until proven guilty
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by MuttleyLaff: 5:56am On Apr 01, 2017
petra1:
That's not correct.
He's one of the ministers that have strong stand on morality and virtue as part of ministerial ethiques
Jimmy Swaggart, Albert Odulele and Eddie L. Long too are a few of the ministers that had strong high ground stands on morality and virtue as part of ministerial ethics, but ...

petra1:
He even host a popular annual ministerial interdenominational conference called "MINISTERS WITHOUT BLEMISH". In one of the conferences that I watched.
He was very furious against ministers traveling for Programes with female secretaries saying. "IS SHE YOUR WIFE?
They all host and air all sorts of ministry programs

Jimmy got caught with a prostiture twice, he obviously isnt into the once bitten, twice shy idiom

Sanctimonious Albert fondled a teenage boy while he slept and touched a young preacher while sharing a hotel

Eddie Long ministered "homosexual cure" programs to recruit gays and lesbians for what he called "Sexual Reorientation" conferences and his church offered "Out of the Wilderness" ministry to help convert homosexuals into heterosexuals, however, his ''secrets'', were carried to his grave

petra1:
It's obvious that the scandal was a set up.
Even if he fell short at all in the set up. It's still a set up. Ive monitored his programmed for years.
I never saw any compromise tendency not to talk of him being a predator
Bet no one saw any compromise or predator tendencies in Jimmy, Albert or Eddie

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by teetee123: 8:55am On Apr 01, 2017
petra1:


That's not correct . He's one of the ministers that have strong stand on morality and virtue as part of ministerial ethiques . He even host a popular annual ministerial interdenominational conference called "MINISTERS WITHOUT BLEMISH". In one of the conferences that I watched . He was very furious against ministers traveling for Programes with female secretaries saying. "IS SHE YOUR WIFE? ..

It's obvious that the scandal was a set up . Even if he fell short at all in the set up . It's still a set up .ive monitored his programmed for years . I never saw any compromise tendency not to talk of him being a predator .


I only know about myself. It is always the so called trusted people that always have big skeletons in their cupboards.
How do you explain about 20 women coming up with allegation against one man.
I will not judge anyone but I will not beat my chest for anyone no matter the title they gave themselves. We have had many proven cases in the past.


http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/may/will-embassy-of-god-punish-sunday-adelaja-multiple-affairs.html

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by Image123(m): 10:32am On Apr 01, 2017
spartan117:

What about u who is ur scandal?
If you meant standard, Jesus is my standard and should be yours and everyone's. It doesn't justify a person going into adultery.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by ichuka(m): 11:40am On Apr 01, 2017
A tree is known by it fruits.what so hard in believers studying there bible?if 40-50% of believers in Nigeria do study there bible most of these MOGs will be out of buisness.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:35pm On Apr 03, 2017
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Preaching can easily be a different ballgame as it were and you ought to know this as a preacher. There's the common saying practice what you preach. One can preach fiery about something and even be all passionate and emotional. That's different from the lifestyle. Separation of theology and lifestyle.

see below
Romans 2:21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? 2:22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God? 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.

Very true. One certain Michael Reid comes to mind. cool

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by analice107: 10:52pm On Apr 03, 2017
Christians are the only Soldiers who kill their wounded.

We are called to reconcile, where did we get this condemnation from?

We are eager to see a man of God fall and see the sheep scatter. In this case, we have taken side with the enemy of the Church tearing a servant of God down before we are even sure he did it.


Where is Jimmy Swaggart's Ministry? Isn't satan happy that the work of God there is ruined? Haven't we helped him(satan) ruin God's work?


Why aren't our focus on the sheep? Why only on the Shepherded? Is it the case of smite the shepherded and the sheep will scatter?

Instead of going on our knees praying for grace and restoration, we stand with the enemy and throw stones as though we have no sin.

Am totally against any form of immorality in the Body, but I can never find myself standing in public with the enemy of the Church casting aspersions on a fallen hero.


Let he that thinketh he stands, take heed lest he falls.

Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge the servants of someone else? It is their own Master who will decide whether they succeed or fail. And they will succeed, because the Lord is able to make them succeed.
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by Antoeni(m): 2:02pm On Apr 09, 2017
No one Is perfect,but pastors and so call men of God 're suppose to be role model to there members,and also live an exemplary live

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by femi4: 2:05pm On Apr 09, 2017
analice107:
If the servant of God did what he is accused of and returns to his Father cries and repents, his Father will forgive and restore him, why won't he continue with the work set before him?

His father already knows that satan will send distractors and made allowances for that.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John:1:8

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John:2:1

The Holy Spirit through Apst John says "If ANYMAN SIN", We have an advocate with the father, JESUS CHRUST...

He didn't say 'If church members sins, exempting Pastors. He says, " If ANYMAN" that includes Apostle Suleman.

But, am sure that didn't happen. The truth shall be come out soon.
The bold shows that you are already bias

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by anyebedgreat: 2:07pm On Apr 09, 2017
some comments here are really irritating. How can you say someone should make peace with God and not confess to his congregation if he is guilty. That will amount to deceit because you have left your members to believe one thing while you actually know the truth. Your members will go about defending lies while you know the truth and then you think God will be happy about it?

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by neocortex: 2:07pm On Apr 09, 2017
Birds of a feather! if pastors have their way they will add "freedom to fornicate" as the 11th commandment.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by Nobody: 2:10pm On Apr 09, 2017
Apostle worshippers wouldn't like this. ..


Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by HRich(m): 2:12pm On Apr 09, 2017
Only God is Perfect
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by Hexzyz(m): 2:13pm On Apr 09, 2017
Is this a man of God? I doubt so.
Our Lord stated in Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Human can attain perfection and Christ has made provision for it.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by LordIsaac(m): 2:15pm On Apr 09, 2017
I am ashamed of today's so called pastors. The Apostles who died for the gospel would turn in their graves for these businessmen called pastors.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by zabuur: 2:17pm On Apr 09, 2017
Maybe Adelaja and a lot of people didn't get it. It's d denial of the scandal by Johnson that's the headache.

If u need to even have sex with someone, na for pastor to go carry prostitute? Haba

Adelaja, I'm disappointed

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by queenjuli(f): 2:19pm On Apr 09, 2017
analice107:

If someone asks, he can explain by being truthful, but confessing to the congregation is not wisdom. One man's sin shd not cost others their salvation nah.

As much as we want to straighten these things, we need apply wisdom. If he confesses to the whole congregation, his soul gets saved, but many souls can get ruined by that.

Pls, wisdom.
Is salvation the exclusive preserve of a single church?

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by dingbang(m): 2:19pm On Apr 09, 2017
Even King David lusted after another man's wife and even killed the man just to have her.. Same David who was after God's heart.. So what are we not saying.
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by JayJohnson: 2:20pm On Apr 09, 2017
WeNoGoDie:
Honestly I lost my esteem for the man of God after listening to him.

He simply made immoral lifestyle among preachers look trivial and become a thing the society should easily embrace and get used to.

How would he know if the pastor involved has made peace with God, how can't he understand that for some pastors that very sin is deliberate and habitual.

How doesn't he easily understand that when a person falls into an immoral sin it becomes a bondage that one cannot easily let loose by just praying for forgiveness.

God exposes such people because He wants His people to withdraw from them and not just assume that they have reconciled with God.

Sunday Adelaja is totally wrong and is suspect in my view.

Does he really knows you? Even of he does, does your esteem count? NO! He has said the truth and that is the only one thing that matters!!
Until you have won the number of souls he won, don't judge a man of God! Leave right and wrong to God!
I don't need your esteem top in case you need to abuse and insult me!
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by Hydrolysis(m): 2:20pm On Apr 09, 2017
WeNoGoDie:
Honestly I lost my esteem for the man of God after listening to him.

He simply made immoral lifestyle among preachers look trivial and become a thing the society should easily embrace and get used to.

How would he know if the pastor involved has made peace with God, how can't he understand that for some pastors that very sin is deliberate and habitual.

How doesn't he easily understand that when a person falls into an immoral sin it becomes a bondage that one cannot easily let loose by just praying for forgiveness.

God exposes such people because He wants His people to withdraw from them and not just assume that they have reconciled with God.

Sunday Adelaja is totally wrong and is suspect in my view.

Very sad comment from him. Really there is compromise somewhere

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by mailingdgreat: 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2017
For him to reply so bluntly, I suspect say diz man sees some iota of truth in the allegations against the apostle!

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by venai(m): 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2017
That is the irony of christianity in particular and religion general. It is a confusion when a grand master in sexual pervation continually tells others to stop fornicating; a thief telling people to stop stealing. Before you show me the way to heaven, first make yourself a candidate to heaven. If men of God(women of God) are not perfect, why then are they preaching perfection people? That pastor should stop assuming that every man of God is like him. There holy men and holy women out there. Not all holy men are in the church, some are in the mosque, shrines and many are atheists. Before you show me the way to heaven, first make yourself a candidate to heaven. SELAH.
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by FILEBE(m): 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2017
There is nothing like Man of God. we all are men of God if we want to be Pious. All these so called Men Of God are just good in motivational speeches and memorize the bible. That's all. Apart from that, they are same humans like you and me. They will all die one day and nothing will happen, the ground won't open. #thelastprophet,

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by ElsonMorali: 2:22pm On Apr 09, 2017
The most annoying thing about this whole saga is that Nackpostle Suleman is still trying to play smart, forming holy and trying to play us for the fool.

I Hope Otobo is not tired o. Let her continue with all the proofs and evidences She can dig out of her permissive bra. We will be here to analyse them.

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Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by myownlogs11: 2:23pm On Apr 09, 2017
Apostle Johnson Suleimans, Close friend , a pastor, was delivered by Prophet TB Joshua in the( Year 2013), when he gave him a prophecy and said, a friend took him to a spiritualist, and he confirmed the prophecy and mentioned Apostle Suleimans name. this happened in the year 2013, see the youtube video below;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyapxEy_XhM?t=11
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by CHARLOE(m): 2:24pm On Apr 09, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


If it was true that he committed the alleged sin because he is human should he then step down or continue as usual? undecided
Step down? For dis naija? Did fatoyinbo of coza step down? What of oyakilome? Nothing dey happen, church membership won't even be affected cos 99.99% are gullible sheeple that can defend their pastor with their lives, guilty or not.
Re: Sunday Adelaja Speaks On Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by bunmijames: 2:25pm On Apr 09, 2017
The fact is that God forgives sins and remember it no more but men don't forget our sins in fact they use it to scold us to their advantage.

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