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Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Nobody: 1:49pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
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Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by obailala(m): 1:56pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
ehissi:Like I said earlier, I'm not a lawyer and don't understand these things. But if there are 2 arguments on this matter, no need for the name-callings and 'I-know-it-all' stance, the court should be allowed to decide. If it was clearly conveyed in the constitution, no 'stupid' lawyers would raise their heads against it... Meanwhile it is because there are numerous of such loopholes in the constitution begging for interpretation, that is why no single 'big man' ever gets convicted in Nigeria especially because they have the (stolen) resources to hire several SANs to come dig-up such loopholes to their benefit. And yeah, lest I forget, it is the duty of the NASS to make these things clearer in the constitution; it is their job to clear the ambiguity. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Sylva2147: 2:06pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
omogumel:what if they continue to reject the ones he presents for confirmation? they should leave the effcc chair position vacant isn't it? |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Nbote(m): 2:46pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
OlaMiki: D pathetic thing here is how dumb most of u are.. Why won't basic comprehension skills b a problem for most of u wen u first talk before thinking... |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Nbote(m): 2:50pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
dolphinife: My broda help me ask most of d mofos who jus support anything at all without even thinking about it. I has become obvious most of dem didn't read or didn't understand d post at all.. Why continually waste ur tym and d tym of Nigerians reforwarding d names over and over again for it to b rejected over and over again? 1 Like |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by dalongjnr: 2:57pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
bionixs:how many yam have they returned so far and where are ?? When most of the yam are subject to litigations, I can't comment on that. 2) if the yam are returned, at the due time, a comprehensive data will be released for public scrutiny. 3) I detests corruption of any kind. 4) I hope u get my point! please buy ur whistle n blow if need be. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Boyopumping: 3:33pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
to me dis shows how useless our so called constitution is d big men and looters knows dis dats y dey won't want a solution to d problems of Nigeria called 1999 constitution |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by tunene66: 4:01pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
dolphinife: Indeed if the FG feels it is not obliged to obey the EFCC Act, then let it go to seek legal interpretation from the Courts. It only a court of competent jurisdiction that can declare a law inconsistent with the provisions of the constitution and not His Excellency The Vice President of the Federal Republic. 1 Like |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by tunene66: 4:18pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
deantimes: With due respect to the Vice President I do not think the section 171 allows the President to appoint the EFCC Chairman without recourse to the Senate. For the avoidance of doubt I am quoting section 171 of the Constitution 171. (1) Power to appoint persons to hold or act in the offices to which this section applies and to remove persons so appointed from any such office shall vest in the President. (2) The offices to which this section applies are, namely - (a) Secretary to the Government of the Federation; (b) Head of the Civil Service of the Federation; (c) Ambassador, High Commissioner or other Principal Representative of Nigeria abroad; (d) Permanent Secretary in any Ministry or Head of any Extra-Ministerial Department of the Government of the Federation howsoever designated; and (e) any office on the personal staff of the President. (3) An appointment to the office of the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation shall not be made except from among Permanent Secretaries or equivalent rank in the civil service of the Federation or of a State. (4) An appointment to the office of Ambassador, High Commissioner or other Principal Representative of Nigeria abroad shall not have effect unless the appointment is confirmed by the Senate. (5) In exercising his powers of appointment under this section, the President shall have regard to the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity. (6) Any appointment made pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (e) of subsection (2) of this section shall be at the pleasure of the President and shall cease when the President ceases to hold office; Provided that where a person has been appointed from a public service of the Federation or a State, he shall be entitled to return to the public service of the Federation or of the State when the President ceases to hold office Unless the Vice President equates the office of the EFCC Chairman to that belonging to the class of section (e), that is a personal staff, the EFCC Act can not be said to be in conflict with the Constitution as regards the need for the Senate to confirm the appointee of Mr President for the post of the EFCC Chairman 2 Likes |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Dhugal: 4:22pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
gabi87:The EFCC,as an agency,was unknown to the Constitution until it was setup by the NASS via their lawmaking powers. Same as ICPC,NDDC,CBN.These few agencies I mentioned all go through confirmation process for their principals,cos that's what their enabling laws say. Let me quote the said Chapter 6,Part 1,Section 171. I'm sure you can read and comprehend well,so nobody confuses you. To wit: Section 171 (1) Power to appoint persons to hold or act in the offices to which this section applies and to remove persons so appointed from any such office shall vest in the President. (2) The offices to which this section applies are, namely ¬ (a) Secretary to the Government of the Federation; (b) Head of the Civil Service of the Federation; (c) Ambassador, High Commissioner or other Principal Representative of Nigeria abroad; (d) Permanent Secretary in any Ministry or Head of any Extra-Ministerial Department of the Government of the Federation howsoever designated; and (e) any office on the personal staff of the President. (3) An appointment to the office of the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation shall not be made except from among Permanent Secretaries or equivalent rank in the civil service of the Federation or of a State. (4) An appointment to the office of Ambassador, High Commissioner or other Principal Representative of Nigeria abroad shall not have effect unless the appointment is confirmed by the Senate. (5) In exercising his powers of appointment under this section, the President shall have regard to the federal character of Nigeria and the need to promote national unity. (6) Any appointment made pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (e) of subsection (2) of this section shall be at the pleasure of the President and shall cease when the President ceases to hold office; Provided that where a person has been appointed from a public service of the Federation or a State, he shall be entitled to return to the public service of the Federation or of the State when the President ceases to hold Note: The EFCC is not listed anywhere here nor is it an Extra-Ministerial Department,and subsection 2 is quite particular that this section applies only to the offices listed therein 1 Like |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by princechurchill(m): 4:24pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
OlaMiki: Amu ewu |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Dhugal: 4:52pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
obailala:The courts had already decided.Or you didn't see the case law he laid before you? |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by obailala(m): 5:11pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
Dhugal:Was the decision on this very case? Didnt know this particular case had been taken to court and judgement passed. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Ejanla07: 5:19pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
deantimes: U can see dia mindset Someone who was indicted by dss. Proffesor of law. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by OreMI22: 5:36pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
President Osinbajo, please re-present Magu! We need more drama in the senate. After the rejection, just go ahead and begin a scandal on Saraki's certificate. Or may be Ekweremadu this time around. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by baganas: 5:54pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
For all those who clamour for magu's subtitute remember that only one of two will follow. Either that substitute will compromise and bow to the powers of the Senate (survival of looters) or proves difficult to handle(survival of Nigerians) and thereby ignite fresh vicious cicle of conflict of interest . This the dilemma the presidency is facing on our behalf. Like or share 1 Like |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by TijaniAbu: 6:02pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
Dirty osinbajo, dirtier Magu |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by henryhemon(m): 6:14pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
michoim: Very well said just that people have sworn to hate PMB. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Snowstorm: 6:45pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
Dumb shii |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by yerilistik: 7:08pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
baganas: Thank you very much for this submission! Only the wise will read in between the lines and understand the real obstacles to fight against corruption in this country. After the evil forces dealt a blow to Ribadu and suceeded in getting rid of him, Lamorde came on board and in a bid to avoid suffering the same fate of Ribadu, he became a puppet to the corrupt rich politicians and EFCC was nearly not heard of throughout his tenure. The same forces are fighting tooth and neck to discredit and disqualify the ever fearless Magu to facilitate the installation of another puppet whom they will use to kill the fight against corruption. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Dhugal: 8:52pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
obailala:Stop being intentionally obtuse. The case was about executive appointments,barring those personal staff listed in section 171,and the need for Senate confirmation and the courts have answered that in the affirmative |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by obailala(m): 9:06pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
Dhugal:Apparently, it's still an ambiguous section, hence why it's still being debated by some. When the constitution is reviewed and that area updated to clarify it in black and white, no one would bother debating it anymore, neither will any one bother taking the matter to court. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Nobody: 9:43pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
The EFCC act is not at loggerhead with the constitution The only way to bypasse the EFCC act is to set the act itself aside or change the law Femi Falana and Osibanjo should stop reading the law upside down ! This matter will soon go to court. Secondly what kind of law professor is Osibanjo? Does he not know that it will be criminal of Buhari to interfere with DSS report? |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by famology(m): 10:08pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
Did u c dt part dt says heads of any extra ministerial dept,howsoeva designated. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by Dhugal: 11:06pm On Apr 12, 2017 |
obailala:Nothing ambiguous about the section,it's as clear as the noonday. Personal staff,Perm secs and executive heads of departments without tenure get appointed without confirmation,They serve at the pleasure of the president.Ambassadors and ministers are,however,subject to confirmation.They don't just serve the president,but the nation as well. Heads of agencies set up by law,however,does not come under purview of the section.They get covered by their establishment Acts and have tenure. The president just nominated members of CBN board for confirmation this evening,under the CBN Establishment Act. Like I said in my initial post,simple Govt 101 and your VP flunked it. Not gonna say much on that perpetual job seeker,Femi Falana. |
Re: We Can Re-present Magu For Confirmation - Osinbajo by sanusikebbe(m): 1:28pm On Apr 13, 2017 |
Why don't you need Re presentation of Magu? Only THIEVES, looters, saboteours and corrupt headed Nigerians don't e.g most politicians -senate/H of Reps , former governors, DGs only to mention a few. 1 Like |
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