Rashduct4luv:
OP, u need to make research on Arab history, they never used face cover before Islam.

Rashduct4luv:
OP, u need to make research on Arab history, they never used face cover before Islam.

Demmzy15:
Fact!!! Boda Taiwo no dey jabo anyhow!

tintingz:
The practice when Islam took over is not ancient ni?

Besides, Face cover was a fashion for women during pre-islamic era, it is commonly used in Persia, Egypt, India especially those snake belly dancers.

tintingz:
Why are you stalking me around.

Lakol:
Plsss don't let us comment without proof. there is no culture in pre Islamic era dt says women should cover their faces. Hence it was coomnandment in the holy Quran by Allah DT all women believers shiuld cover their face. if u cannot do it don't condemn it becos condemibg it is a sin to Allah on its own. Hence covering of face is compulsory only on Muslim women believer(Muminat).

tintingz:
Like have said covering the face was a fashion for women during pre-Islamic era and commonly used in Egypt, Persia, India, Israel and their neighboring nations. Even covering the head was also a practice before Islam came.









These are pictures of Asian belly dancers, does belly dance started when Islam came? Belly dance is an ancient cultural art long before Islam came and this is how they cover their faces.

Lakol:


I don't want us to argue much on this. First of all let me know if u believe in what d Holy Quran says, den we can continue on dis discussion

tintingz:
Like have said covering the face was a fashion for women during pre-Islamic era and commonly used in Egypt, Persia, India, Israel and their neighboring nations. Even covering the head was also a practice before Islam came.









These are pictures of Asian belly dancers, does belly dance started when Islam came? Belly dance is an ancient cultural art long before Islam came and this is how they cover their faces.

tintingz:
Can we talk about historical events and cultural practice?

Believing in a book does not eradicate or surpass history and culture.

deolsisback:


Can you prove it?

Are you also saying that there is no verse of the Qur'an that speaks on covering of the face?

Lakol:


Point of correction Holy Quran us not just a book.
However, culturally and historically Nigerians dress naked intact it still exist in some part of the country as we speak, would u say anybody DT wants to dress naked now it is allowed in Lagos of nowadays. it is d Holy Quran DT changes all these hitherto. Moreover HolyQuran has been in existence before ur historical event.
If u are a true Muslim chek d book and u will see d proof DT overrule d historical event u talk about.

Lakol:

My brother go and check ur constitution very well u will see where dressing Unclad has a purnishement.

I Neva told u Quran is an historical book rather what is inside is beyond just ordinary historical book.

Meanwhile its now clear u no nothing about d book. it is not d stories of Arab or Jewish as u said, it contains d commandments of Allah covering of head and faces inclusive.

There might not be existence of Quran physically during Aristotle and platonic era, but i tell u Allah created Aristotle and Plato hence Quran has been in existence since then with Allah. But it goes beyond ur own understanding.

tintingz:
Show me Nigeria constitutional law that gives dressing code to civilians. It is only in organization they give dressing code which is normal everywhere. There is freedom of practice. How many celebrity that dressed half nakèd were arrested by authority?

We are not in a authoritarian regimes or in Sharia law state.

Maybe you should use your English to my understanding because what you said was "Quran overrule historical events".

How does it overrule historical event when it is only Muslims that believe in the book?

These commandments are only for Muslims that was revealed to someone in the middle east.

I'm confused here. Aristotle nor Plato does not even know who Allah is, they are Greeks they have their own beliefs, their creator is Prometheus.

Lakol:


Bro it seems education has afected ur thinking, beside u should be kicked out of dis forum, its not meant for u.
Did thread is meant for practising Muslim sincerely.
I am learned too but i don't allow DT to affect my religious life.

Crownadex:
As - salam alykum my elders in Islam


Please I need more explanation on this thread

Is there any punishment from Allah ,for those who doesn't cover their face after married

Newnas:


wa alykumussalam wa rahmatuLLaah wa barakaatuh.

Though I'm not an elder but I'll try to give adequate response. upon Allah alone I rely.

Firstly, niqab has nothing to do with being married or not, many of the people believe that it's the husband that veils his wife, this is very wrong and is baseless in the Deen. On the contrary, niqab has to do with maturity. Once a woman attains puberty she has to use the niqab if she is of the opinion that it's compulsory. Allah knows best.

Secondly, The scholars are divided in the issue of niqab, some say it's obligatory and the implication of this is that whoever doesn't use it is committing a sin and is liable to being punished in the grave or hell but such a person will never be in hell forever because no believer will be in hell forever.
This is the opinion of Sheikh Ibn Baaz and Sheikh Uthymeen and many other scholars.

The second opinion is that it's recommended. The implication of this is that whoever doesn't use it is depriving herself of great reward but will not be punished in any way just like the one who doesn't fast Mondays and Thursdays.
This is the opinion of Imam Albany and many of his students. This is the opinion I hold not because I think it's simple but because it's the one I see to be more supported by evidences from the Quran and sunnah.

Note: my wife uses niqab even before I married her. and Sheikh Albany's wives and daughters too use niqab.
So it's a matter of knowledge and evidence not whims, ignorance and dim-wittedness as some have displayed.

Allah knows best.

Crownadex:
Ma sha Allah ,

Jazaakumu llahu khaera

Newnas:
Anyone who has common sense will see that the Niqab used by those belly dancers is different from the niqab Islam enjoined.

The Muslim woman's niqab is a result of chastity, so it should be free from adornments unlike these face covers.

Secondly, the fact that it had been in existence before Islam doesn't proof that it's not part of Islam.
Hospitality and charity was a part of Arab culture before Islam came, that didn't make it a less important act of worship.

The laws of Islam can be divided into three categories:

# Ones in existence and Islam came to improve such as charity, goodness to family etc

# Ones in existence that Islam came to abolish such as singing, dancing and calling on other than Allah.

#Ones not in existence but Islam brought it new such as the science of hadith. Added to this category are those laws that Islam modified such as the modifications to the hajj pilgrimage, Solah and fasting etc.


Allah knows best.

Also, whoever is not sufficed by the Quran has no right to call himself a Muslim.

Allah says:

Surah Al-Ankaboot, Verse 51:
أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِهِمْ أَنَّا أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ يُتْلَىٰ عَلَيْهِمْ إِنَّ فِي ذَٰلِكَ لَرَحْمَةً وَذِكْرَىٰ لِقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ

Is it not sufficient for them that We have sent down to you the Book (the Quran) which is recited to them? Verily, herein is mercy and a reminder (or an admonition) for a people who believe.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Also, Islam is the religion that first existed on earth, it is the religion of our fathers; Adam, Ibrahim, Nuh, Musa, Eesa etc so it's possible that these face veils used by these belly dancers is a remnant of the laws of past prophets and a result of their distortion of the messages sent to them through their messengers.

Don't you see that many Muslim women of today have distorted the hijab brought to them by the Quran by reducing it to short scarves, parsh and caps etc.

Lakol:
I insist wat u are seing and saying is diff from wat dis guy is saying I don't xpect any true miluslim to respond to him again. u av all said d fact, but secular education has really affected this guy.

tintingz:
Oga sheeple, this is not about secular education(we all benefit from secular education anyways), it is about doing research and being rational.