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Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by ElsonMorali: 11:23am On May 21, 2017 |
Nobody created God. He always was, he always is and he always will be. He has no beginning, neither will he have an end. The concept of time and space is only peculiar to this realm of existence. And that's all we know, so it's quite difficult to grasp the concept of God and spirituality. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 11:24am On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: *to say "God is believed to be existing....", is saying that you have evidence, that backs that claim. *assumption that God exist, will be the most appropriate word. 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by swagguElite(m): 11:34am On May 21, 2017 |
teelaw4life:I didn't kno! ...accept my apologies ... I detest any form of hatred! ...I hope yu find my apology ForgivenWorthy! 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by swagguElite(m): 11:34am On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:yes boss! 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 11:39am On May 21, 2017 |
AlvanT:Have bn enjoying ur meaningful contribution all along. Are u backing out already? U shouldn't. Ppl r still talking. U may meet a point or two to pick from their comments |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 11:42am On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: * a circle drawn by man, has a beginning and end. With naked eyes, this points can be observed. More observable with special lens. *Since it's man, that relates with "circular God", men do know its (God) beginning of existence. *God is an idea, that begin to exist in the imagination of early men (who were grossly ignorant and perplexed), and were trying to understand the cause of "mysterious" phenomenon like thunder, rainbow, fireflies etc, in their environment. *men created Gods! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 11:45am On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Have u drawn a circle before? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 11:50am On May 21, 2017 |
ElsonMorali:U said that it is quite difficult to grasp the concept of God but also claim that He has no beginning nor end. Isn't that contradictory to your stand of difficulty in knowing him because it holds that u have known him already? What I'm asking here is this: the fact that He exists presupposes that He must have began to exist somewhere sometime. How come His existence is the puzzle |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by teelaw4life(m): 11:51am On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: Not everything that exists must have a cause? Is there anything to back up this assertion? And why can we not apply this logic to us humans when it has not even been proven that our existence is the result of a singular act by an 'uncaused' entity? Can we not assume that we are the product of something that was in existence before us which in turn was a product of another which was in existence before it? The idea of God's existence only leads to a paradox. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 11:53am On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom:Nice observation but u could be right and wrong |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by AlvanT(m): 11:56am On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:Not really backing out...if only I can find better words to explain,God performs miracles right? you and I know that not just Christians perform miracles e.g Shamans,islams,judaism,hinduism,etc all perform miracles but why are miracles performed outside Christianity known as magic? It's a known fact that magic is just manipulation of matter,only those with strong mental abilities can pull this stunts...the Church was meant to be a spiritual school but it's obvious that the true purpose have been hijacked by greed and selfishness...it was supposed to be a communion where consciousness are gathered and projected to achieve a common aim.Many churches have lost this purpose and have failed to teach it's members that's why the people that seek God in the wrong way end up not finding it and give up becoming atheists.Woe to our clerics and religious heads. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by AlvanT(m): 11:59am On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom:Men created the Sky Daddy the real god is in us. 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:01pm On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom: hello.. i believe we've passed this stage of “evidence" of something beyond our capacity.. neither you nor i have any instrument for determining eternity or measuring it.. the best we have are logical inferences |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 12:02pm On May 21, 2017 |
AlvanT:We all know that no man is ever willing to give in his best where his interest is not involved. Most religious leaders have actually drawn people away from God to their selves because of what they start d to gain. They find it hard to dig deep into the World to find answers to spiritual hunger that Christians are faced with such as the one we are analysing here. They just tell us we should refrain from them. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 12:05pm On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Are u indirectly promoting dogmatism? |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 12:08pm On May 21, 2017 |
AlvanT:Really? How come we don't do extraordinary things as gods |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 12:08pm On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: The question that you have still not answered is, if God idea is beyond human comprehension, how then did you discover God? 3 Likes |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:08pm On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom: this isn't a rebuttal.. i talked of a circle.. i never specified whether it was drawn by man or a computer etc.. Since it's man, that relates with "circular God", men do know its (God) beginning of existence. I'm going to desist from theist atheist arguments.. the point of the OP is not asking for God's existence.. its of the question “who created God"? .. meaning the op is of the view or assumption that God exists(according to the genesis story) but is trying to ascertain if he has a creator 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 12:10pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:Until I'm proven wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:11pm On May 21, 2017 |
teelaw4life:i quoted from a cosmological argument.. Leibniz or so.. also, we have no instrument to measure eternity.. so all we can use are logical inferences And why can we not apply this logic to us humans when it has not even been proven that our existence is the result of a singular act by an 'uncaused' entity? Can we not assume that we are the product of something that was in existence before us which in turn was a product of another which was in existence before it? The idea of God's existence only leads to a paradox. I'm not arguing for God's existence.. the logic cannot be applied to humans because it has been proven that humans and the universe in general had a beginning |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by AlvanT(m): 12:13pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:They'll surely answer for it someday,"knowledge is power" they say,have this knowledge and bathe people in ignorance they'll surely depend on you for the rest of thier lives.They don't want thier members to know what they know,no wonder in some churches prayer warriors can't even heal the sick except the pastor himself.They'll answer to this,as we have learnt we must pass on what we know cos every spiritual gift misused we'll answer for it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by AlvanT(m): 12:14pm On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom:True! |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:15pm On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom: i said it was beyond our capacity.. i never said we won't get there.. although we might be extinct before then.. my point was that we have no scientific instrument or equipment to measure eternity at this point in time and the substantial evidence you seek can only come from the scientific evidence which we don't YET have the ability to acquire |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 12:15pm On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:To add more to ur point, That He exists is unquestionable but who made Him |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 12:15pm On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:It's bro. It's man that relates with God idea, not robots. Wilgrea7: I'm still on the OP's enquiry. For a grand answer to his enquiry, the question must be understood first. If the OP understand that the idea of God, is an assumed idea ab initio, he will have a better method of enquiry. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:15pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:no |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by alanka(f): 12:18pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:It is only on nairaland I saw people with no brain. Asking a man like you who created God. Madness of highest order is when you are dragging people into what they don't know, what their brain can not guest of because it is issue of time before the world. Tell me, if somebody tells you is this, is that will you believe it? You won't became you know that they are just saying what is not true but you just want to drag them into what they don't want All because you want to look wise, now they are seeing you as unlearned person so they are avoiding your thread. Anyway, dont drag them into what you will not finish as they have said You just want to drag them into what will later end on abuse, insult etc must you force them to say yes when they have outrightly said no? BAD PEOPLE THREADIND |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:18pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55: if you're talking of the Judeochristian God, he is believed to be the supreme being by Christians and Jews.. supreme meaning highest.. if he was created, then he isn't the supreme being |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by AlvanT(m): 12:19pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55:Because you've not discovered how...think of it,do you think it's by chance man has dominion over all living things in the world? If your talking about the metaphysical aspect yes it is possible! Just know that it's kept a secret as an object of control from the powers that be,men can perform miracles,healing,telekinesis,telepathy,etc all this are skills that need proper patience and time to develop. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Respect55(m): 12:19pm On May 21, 2017 |
Akiintom:The idea of God's existence cannot be said to be an 'assumed idea' because arrangement of events and effects must be an act of a Cause. |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 12:20pm On May 21, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: You didn't get the question. God existence and its origin of existence, are beyond your comprehension. How then did you come about God, since it's beyond human comprehension? |
Re: Who Created God? How Did He Come To Be? by Akiintom: 12:22pm On May 21, 2017 |
Respect55: And what is the cause? |
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