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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by LionDeLeo: 8:28pm On May 26, 2017
koropotopoto:
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Shatap there and get out

No difference.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by koropotopoto: 8:28pm On May 26, 2017
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LionDeLeo:


No difference.
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Nonsense trash

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by LionDeLeo: 8:29pm On May 26, 2017
koropotopoto:
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Nonsense trash

That is just what he has grin
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by koropotopoto: 8:29pm On May 26, 2017
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LionDeLeo:


That is just what he has grin
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Nonsense trash

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by LionDeLeo: 8:30pm On May 26, 2017
koropotopoto:
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Nonsense trash

Any other thing? I doubt.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by koropotopoto: 8:31pm On May 26, 2017
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LionDeLeo:


Any other thing? I doubt.
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Nonsense trash

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by LionDeLeo: 8:33pm On May 26, 2017
koropotopoto:
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Nonsense trash

I don't have time for all these "nonsense trash", henceforth, no more response to the programme post.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by koropotopoto: 8:36pm On May 26, 2017
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LionDeLeo:


I don't have time for all these "nonsense trash", henceforth, no more response to the programme post.
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trash trash trash

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by durangokid: 9:17pm On May 26, 2017
Amberon:
We already know. They can deny all they want but the truth is already too glaring for anyone to ignore.

But then the thing here is that Nigeria is not being run fairly, I can understand why the igbos want to leave Nigeria. The igbos are not the only ones fed up with Nigeria, I as an urhobo am fed up too and i just hope my people can unite and call for an end to this union. I hope my fellow Niger Deltans can realize that we deserve better and come together to actualize Niger Delta Republic instead of aligning with Biafra.
Some of you people are dumb and unintelligent about things concerning igbo land, there are lots of of oil wells in igbo hinterlands of imo, Asia, Anambra all untapped with Enugu having the highest highest gas reserve in Nigeria with ebonyi with the having highest limestone deposits in Nigeria, apart from the coal in Enugu abia has a lot of of tributaries that leads directory into the Atlantic Ocean, you people need to know a lot concerning igbo land not just writing rubbish you don't know
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 10:01pm On May 26, 2017
biafraone:
OP your cheap attempt to label Biafra break away from Nigeria as a ploy to steal oil is quite laughable. Or perhaps is it an attempt to rub the one Nigeria crap on our face?

So you really care about the oil after all. Little wonder why you cronies are hell bent on frustrating the movement.

Quick questions for you and your irks.

1. Why did Biafra try to secede the first time?

Same reason as now. Because of the OIL.

By the late 60s, it was very clear the direction world oil demand was going, and Ojukwu saw it as a chance to corner the oil resources of the region. Hence the agitation for Biafra.


2. Who and who were the front liners of the movement at that time?

Ojukwu and his gang. Who else?
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 10:08pm On May 26, 2017
durangokid:
Some of you people are dumb and unintelligent about things concerning igbo land, there are lots of of oil wells in igbo hinterlands of imo, Asia, Anambra all untapped with Enugu having the highest highest gas reserve in Nigeria with ebonyi with the having highest limestone deposits in Nigeria, apart from the coal in Enugu abia has a lot of of tributaries that leads directory into the Atlantic Ocean, you people need to know a lot concerning igbo land not just writing rubbish you don't know

You did the exploration yourself to discover these vast quantities of oil and gas in Anambra and Imo? If not, please show us the research studies, showing how many billions of barrels reside in Anambra. Kindly awaiting. I suspect there are SOME deposits there, but there are infinitely tiny compared to major oil and gas producing regions like the Niger Delta, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Angola etc.

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 11:09pm On May 26, 2017
uglyafonja:



The southeast do not need Oil to survive.... get this into your skull...

If they need oil just like other region, they would have been involved in land disputes especially in IMO and Abia state,..whose lands was lopped to rivers and akawaibom..

Imagine.... how can you have a community been shared by two state....Egbema is in rivers and IMO state...

The southeast do not need oil...they just need an environment where they can comfortably explore their God given skill and talents without hindrance...


You may ask, what are the hindrances?

Can you explain y only Lagos seaport is the only port that most goods are authorized to pass through.?

Can you explain y ibeto was drawn out just to give Dangote the monopoly of cement business?

Can you explain while some Igbo business men are been frustrated just to give an edge to other person from the north or west?

Can you explain while jamb cut off differs with regions?

Can you explain y major infrastructure are not been put in place in the SE to ease the stress of doing business...

So many of them...

This is the main reason y Igbo want to succeed from this contraption that want to carry everybody along thereby delaying other persons development.

The Igbo's need a country that sees every opportunity and persons equal and not frustrating one region to favour another person.

But where were all these points when Jonathan was in power for over 6 or 7 years??

I never heard this long list of complaints against Nigeria by you and your folks when President Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, was in power.

All of sudden, a Hausa-Fulani man becomes president, and you suddenly discover this long list of problems with Nigeria.

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Amberon: 11:20pm On May 26, 2017
Thrash! Enugu has what highest gas reserves? Tear gas or what? Keep deluding yourselves. Even your oil is not up to 1/100000000 of what is obtainable in the SS. [s]
durangokid:
Some of you people are dumb and unintelligent about things concerning igbo land, there are lots of of oil wells in igbo hinterlands of imo, Asia, Anambra all untapped with Enugu having the highest highest gas reserve in Nigeria with ebonyi with the having highest limestone deposits in Nigeria, apart from the coal in Enugu abia has a lot of of tributaries that leads directory into the Atlantic Ocean, you people need to know a lot concerning igbo land not just writing rubbish you don't know
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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Candyrain(m): 11:32pm On May 26, 2017
Amberon:
Thrash! Enugu has what highest gas reserves? Tear gas or what? Keep deluding yourselves. Even your oil is not up to 1/100000000 of what is obtainable in the SS.

At least u agree that there's oil in Igboland unlike others who don't.

Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 11:47pm On May 26, 2017
Thermodynamics:
True, how come the four major oil producing states are part of biafra? Coincidence? They just want to steal our oil. The other day when I was in the bus to Onitsha there was this drunk Anambra man shouting on top of his voice that the Yorubas and Hausas are stealing their oil. I was like lol, which oil de for Anambra? I don't support the division of Nigeria, not because I have anything against the Igbos, but because if Biafra comes, it will be exactly like Nigeria. Biafran politicians will still loot the resources from Niger Delta, because they are actually Nigerians, that corrupt nature will still be in Biafra, so no need. I am not been tribal oh, just speaking the bitter truth. Proudly SS. One love my people.

At first, the new country will have equal representation in govt.. but as the years go by, the Igbos will start to use their population dominance to CHANCE the other groups.. Before you know it, they'll start to call the south south ''no man's land'', and become the new oppressors.

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by theDEVILisHERE: 12:05am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:
Why don't these people just be honest and call a spade a spade?

They simply want to seize the whole oil and gas income the country is currently sharing. If there was no oil and gas in that region...If for instance, the oil was in the west, and all the south grew was bananas and pawpaw, does anyone seriously think we would be seeing this secessionist agitation from Biafra? I seriously doubt it. And the hilarious thing is how Ipob tries to rope in the south-south into their scheme - no doubt because of their oil fields, since they have disdain for every other ethnicity, and so, should hate the south southerners too.... And the south south say "na...we're not in". Ipob considers the Efiks, Riverine people etc, "their brothers"..... Truth is, if you replaced those groups with "Afonjas", watch how quickly 'Afonjas' will become "their brothers". Success (and opportunity) has many friends (and 'brothers').

"He that does not know
And doesn't know that he does not know
And doesn't want know that he doesn't know that he does not know, is a compound FOOL"
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by theDEVILisHERE: 12:10am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:
This whole Biafra of a thing makes me laugh. The idea that Nigeria will just sit back and allow the region that provides almost 90% of federal govt revenue to just SECEDE from the country is just...laughable. The FG will fight tooth and nail to prevent it, make no mistake. It's like Texas deciding they want to secede from the US, taking the whole US oil industry with them. An industry worth trillions of dollars. Washington will never allow it, if you like, carry placard from New York to Alaska.

If that is the case then everyone involved should prepare to be vaporised

Nature is returning things back to their normal form, deal with it
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Amah70: 1:43am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:
Err. No. The disunity (as exemplified by the Biafra movement) is based on oil.

When were you born?

In 1967, when Biafra seceded from Nigeria, crude oil was not discoverd except in Oloibiri which was fetching like peanuts to Nigeria then.

The killing mine - Sharia criminal codes in the north - beginning 1999 recharged the battery for Biafra agitation.

Boko Haram violence that expelled southerners from north poured acid to agitation for Biafra.

Fulani herdsmen and arrest of Nnamdi Kalu inflamed the agitation for Biafra.

If what worries you is losing oil proceeds from the oil producing, non-Igbo areas in the SS if they eventually join Biafra, please accept them if they agree to remain with what shall be left of Nigeria without Biafra. No be by force ooo.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Amah70: 2:17am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:
This whole Biafra of a thing makes me laugh. The idea that Nigeria will just sit back and allow the region that provides almost 90% of federal govt revenue to just SECEDE from the country is just...laughable. The FG will fight tooth and nail to prevent it, make no mistake. It's like Texas deciding they want to secede from the US, taking the whole US oil industry with them. An industry worth trillions of dollars. Washington will never allow it, if you like, carry placard from New York to Alaska.

And you are not ashamed to write this?

They have started to produce vehicles that need no fuel.
Therefore, before long, you may have to drink that crude oil which holds a country one for parasites.


No body told you that the richest countries on earth have no crude oil.

No body told you that crude oil is not all there is for a country to survive on.


No body told you that Tourism is the greatest foreign exchange earner for peaceful, tourism countries, after manufacture and Service businesses;

but in Nigeria, the Boko Haram and herdsmen cultivated and used by the Nigerian group you seem to work for, have made Nigeria a most tourism-unfriendly country.

Those you work for used unfriendly environment of Sharia criminal codes, and Boko Haram, which also fights for a country to be ruled with Islamic Sharia criminal codes, to chase away most Southern Nigerians from the vast lands of northern Nigeria;

yet, because of crude oil in the Niger delta southern region, you still want to fight for continuation of failed Nigeria.

Which country exists in the world where people from its southern region cannot comfortably decide to relocate to its northern region, except your One Nigeria?

Abeg, waka pass with your crude oyel booty.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by biafraone: 6:41am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:


Same reason as now. Because of the OIL.

By the late 60s, it was very clear the direction world oil demand was going, and Ojukwu saw it as a chance to corner the oil resources of the region. Hence the agitation for Biafra.



Ojukwu and his gang. Who else?
you are devoid of common sense. Good luck
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by durangokid: 7:28am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:


You did the exploration yourself to discover these vast quantities of oil and gas in Anambra and Imo? If not, please show us the research studies, showing how many billions of barrels reside in Anambra. Kindly awaiting. I suspect there are SOME deposits there, but there are infinitely tiny compared to major oil and gas producing regions like the Niger Delta, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Angola etc.
You people are very funny let tell you seismic studies have shown a lot oil well in imo state you can browse it all untapped, same in Anambra and Abia because of continuous negative policy of the Nigerian Nigerian policy and politics they still want to continue making igbo land a non oil producing State after calving the oil parts at the villages near other states out, there is nothing they can do with the ones hinterland of obowo, mbaise, all in imo state and those in ngwa land axis axis, umuahia axis down to the their boundaries with akwa Ibom and isikwuato areas and ebony, the question you people should ask is where were the Biafrans refinaries during the civil war, it is known that in bende and item all in abia state have lots of oil well sealed with nnpc tapes, these wells have billion of barrels, if you have or know any top nnpc official ask him, he will tell you the secret of oils deposits in South East
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Nobody: 7:42am On May 27, 2017
biafraone:
OP your cheap attempt to label Biafra break away from Nigeria as a ploy to steal oil is quite laughable. Or perhaps is it an attempt to rub the one Nigeria crap on our face?

So you really care about the oil after all. Little wonder why you cronies are hell bent on frustrating the movement.

Quick questions for you and your irks.
1. Why did Biafra try to secede the first time?
2. Who and who were the front liners of the movement at that time?
3. What notable thing happened at Asaba Delta state (an assumed non Biafran territory)?
3. Why do you claim IPOB never made any noise when their brother (someone from Bayelsa) was at the helm of affairs?

If you ever want to discuss national issues as if affects everyone, bring superior arguments and not this idiocy.

It's only a matter of time before your dear nigeria crumbles.

there was a post an ipob guy posted here sometime ago. it was an interview with azikiwe. in the post, we all saw azikiwe telling Ojukwu that the whole war was about oil.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Agumbankembu: 8:38am On May 27, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQJPLw-tRFg

Chances are that you didnt know that dredgers, agro-allied machinery, oil tanks are made in Aba.


In a small makeshift workshop along the back roads of the city, Azubuike, a young self-trained fabricator who no one has ever heard of before, and his 7 hard working accomplices,are just putting finishing touches to some very unique pieces of machinery. These lot are the minimum weekly output for Azubuike, and it’s all hand-made, all beautiful, good quality machines.

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Agumbankembu: 8:40am On May 27, 2017
Amberon:
Thrash! Enugu has what highest gas reserves? Tear gas or what? Keep deluding yourselves. Even your oil is not up to 1/100000000 of what is obtainable in the SS.

Imo and Anambra have the highest gas deposits, and it has been proven, but oh well, no one cares.

Check out fabrication clusters and prowess of Aba, who needs oil?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQJPLw-tRFg

Chances are that you didnt know that dredgers, agro-allied machinery, oil tanks are made in Aba. Even the dregders used by oil companies in dregding your shallow creeks are fabricated in Aba, along Enugu - PH expressway. The oil tanks and other agro allied machines are fabricated in Aba, watch the video, no one needs oil to survive.

After watching it, let me bring you the video for shoe clusters in Aba, we have 5 shoe clusters that have about 10,000 people each, that is 50k people producing millions of shoes that find their way as far as Malaysia and Dubai on a daily bases.

Are we going to talk about the fashion industry of Aba? No one needs oil to live.


In a small makeshift workshop along the back roads of the city, Azubuike, a young self-trained fabricator who no one has ever heard of before, and his 7 hard working accomplices,are just putting finishing touches to some very unique pieces of machinery. These lot are the minimum weekly output for Azubuike, and it’s all hand-made, all beautiful, good quality machines.

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by slivertongue: 9:13am On May 27, 2017
Rossikki:


Same reason as now. Because of the OIL.

By the late 60s, it was very clear the direction world oil demand was going, and Ojukwu saw it as a chance to corner the oil resources of the region. Hence the agitation for Biafra.



Ojukwu and his gang. Who else?


the south south is a geopolitical zone comprising akwa ibom, bayelsa, cross river, delta, edo and rivers while the niger delta includes two south eastern states -abia and imo, and one south western state - ondo. the two south eastern states with oil deposit are in the niger while akwa ibom, bayelsa, delta and rivers are in the delta. so pls when writing apply the right name.

if your hypothesis or research question is built on the assumption that oil triggered the civil war then your conclusion will be wrong because available data dont agree with your thinking. If Biafra was about oil how come they are developing without it. Govt position in 1967 never stated so,

The federal govt took over the wells promising to return them after the war because they feared that biafra could hijack it and put an end to nigeria thus the mobilization of ethnic polities in the old rivers state using the sentiment you expressed to win them over.

In the old eastern region, non igbo groups felt dominated thus the wholly acceptance of the carrot from the FG. it was that carrot that took away oil wells from the oil bearing communities till today.

and the question to be asked is who has gained more since 1970 the biafrans, other parts of nigeria or the south south? seening what oil wealth has done in kaduna, kano, lagos and Abuja do you still hold the belief that oil is the aim of the biafran agitation? looking at the south east communities can you locate the community that oil has built from the scratch?
now let me surprise you! NYSC was designed to bring the South back to the North, the south east was the prime target. the war drove them away and left the north without enough manpower. apart from creating the avenue for job seekers from the east govt made sure that the upsprings of those who left for biafra returned to Nigeria to offer free service. if you want a fair judgement of the war read the books, measure it with what is on ground. pls also consider the present take of the major actors in the war. Lastly, what led to adaka boro's agitation? was it driven by oil, biafra or the FG?
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by suremanpatriot: 1:03pm On May 27, 2017
WHO IS THIS "BIAFRONE" WRITING THIS NONSENSICAL THING BELOW:

What notable thing happened at asaba Delta state (an assumed non Biafran )
...YOU MUST BE AMONG THE DELUSIONALLY DISCRIMINATORY IGBO LOSERS WHO THINK THEY ARE MORE IGBO THAN ANIOMA IGBO. Ignoramus!
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 11:54am On May 30, 2017
Let the South South declare that they are not interested in joining Biafra, and watch how quickly the Ipob movement collapses. Biafra is ALL about stealing that oil for the Igbos.

In private, many Igbos ridicule people from the south south. They call them drunkards and wastrels. But in public, they are "brothers in the Biafra cause". If the south south join Biafra, they will live to regret it. The Igbos are ready to exterminate them to seize those oilfields.
Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by Rossikki: 12:11pm On May 30, 2017
Omofunaab2:
Op, The only geo political zone that can't stand alone is the south east, they know this, but they won't answer your question instead they will call you afonja. .

Why do you think most of them on nairaland denied that there was a fight between biogbolo youths and igbo traders in Bayelsa? Bro, it is because of "oyel " ..and do you think the south south people don't know this? Left with the south south they don't want to share their resources with anyone including Nigeria sef. .

Today south west can decide to secede and be on its own but can same be said of south east?

I have friends that are from delta, they have igbo names, i see them as igbos but they usually get annoyed whenever i call them "Omo Ibo " . Seriously i really don't understand why people in rivers and delta are denying their "igboness".. Why aren't they proud of being called igbos? Kwara is in north central, okun people are in kogi but you will never hear any of them say they are not yorubas.

I must also admit that i have met two or three people from delta that embraced their "igboness " but majority always claim they are not igbos
They see Igbos as domineering. They're very nervous about how much the Igbos will oppress them in any Biafra contraption, by virtue of their population dominance. Who can blame them? Before you know it it they'll start calling the riverine oilfields "no man's land".

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Re: Isn't The Biafra Agitation Really Just About Taking The Oil? by T9ksy(m): 12:42pm On May 30, 2017
Rossikki:
They see Igbos as domineering. They're very nervous about how much the Igbos will oppress them in any Biafra contraption, by virtue of their population dominance. Who can blame them? Before you know it it they'll start calling their riverine oilfields "no man's land".



Exactly the same sentiment that compelled the sardunna to set up his (in/famous) Northernisation Policy soon after the

country became independent.He probably saw it as the only way to checkmate ibo's domineering proclivity in his region. It (his policy) worked

hence he was marked for execution, in their so called revolutionary coup.

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