eyizlive:


i know somethin kept disturbin me when i read dat shiit yesterday...u guys don't rili read ur bible do u? Just hope u'll be smart enuff 2 pinpoint ur errors when u read dis 2 areas of d bible....exodus 1;9-22 &exodus 2;23-24...n remove dat bishop u av in ur name...tell ur fellow victorazy to shut up.

ultron12345:

there are about 11 pharoahs who beared the name Ramses, so specify which of them u are refering to

also what evidence do u have dat he was the one

chemystery:

Regret or Forget, any god that posseses any of such imperfect quality is not worthy of being worshiped or even called a god

KENFERDYOORI:

Are you sure you want to continue with this? You're going into atheism. That God regretted creating man is context-bound.

victorazy:


ur just an slowpoke. bring what u have in head and quit insulting like scallywag u r. Ewu like u. what do u know.

Oluwamuyeewa:
I swear religion is so confusing...they say God planned everything we say or do and when we do something wrong they say he'll punish us for it when he is the one who programmed us to do it....

And why can't God just kill/condemn/wipe away all sinners after the judgement day instead of storing them in a fire somewhere when he doesn't have any use for them anymore ?

So I have this question for the Bible scholars in here,
Where will all the people living and who have lived go to when they die before the white men brought Christianity to Nigeria?

DOCTUFOS:
DOCTUFOS:
1. Now I Omokwo have five children. And the names of my children were Ajanigo, Alolo, Ufedo, Ariga and Ebo.
2. Now before my face, four of my five children changed to the religion of the foreigners. For when they went to the school of the foreigners to learn, they were taught their religion, saying, after death shall be heaven and fire only.
3. And those who believe in Zeusus shall go to heaven while they who do not believe in him shall go to the fire to be there forever. Now I called my children and said to them, where do you think that your distant great grandfather Mona shall be now as we speak?
4. And they said, he shall be in the fire because he did not know Zeusus in his days.
5. And I said, why should he go to the fire because he did not know Zeusus? Does he have any fault for not knowing Zeusus? For in his days, Issa was he whom they told him about. And they did not even say that Issa died for the world. But he did not believe all their stories because there are greater stories here also which we pass from mouth to mouth to our children and grandchildren.
6. Now Alolo said to me, father, we do not wish that our ancestors should go to the fire, but the reality is that they shall be there forever. And Omokwo said, you children are making me laugh. For it is as if you are drunken with emu.
7. Now Ariga said, it is not an excuse that they do not believe in God while they were alive. And they shall by now be wailing in the fire. For they shall not be forgiven, no matter how they now plead for mercy. For there is no mercy in the fire of God.
8. Now Ufedo, being the last child of the family, who did not know much of the things which they spoke, was called apart by me. And I said to him, you are the youngest of my children, but I have made you greater than your four elder brothers.
9. And you alone have I accepted as my only child. And you are my first and last born. And all the things which I have are yours. And only through you should anyone come to me. Now have the key to my room.
10. Now Ufedo was very glad. And when his brothers sought after their father for food, he said to them, you are not worthy to be seen in my presence. Go and see Ufedo your little brother and accept him as your Lord and master. And if you do not accept him as such, you shall see my wrath.
11. For I have put in his charge all powers of this house. And through him alone can you be reconciled with me.
12. Now when the children of Omokwo went to Ufedo that he should give them the key to the storehouse so that they might take food and other things which belonged to the father, he said to them, call me Lord.
13. And they took him and beat him up in anger.
14. Now when Omokwo heard how they had maltreated his only acceptable son, he went after them and caught them. And he beat them with the rod and locked them up, saying, you shall be in that room forever. And I shall neither give you food or water.
15. Now the children of Omokwo thought that it was only a joke. And they cried out for help for three days, for they were very hungry. And Ufedo entered into the locked room after three days. And they said, now we have accepted you as the firstborn and even the only son of our father.
16. Now give us food and water to drink.
17. And Ufedo said, it is too late to do so. For the time when this was possible has long past. And there is no forgiveness for you.
18. Now at that time, Adeiza the grandson of Omini came from Okerune to see Omokwo. And he said, Omokwo the great one, I have come to do to you what Mona your ancestor did to Agidi my own ancestor. For in those days, Mona came even on foot to see Agidi my ancestor.
19. Now I have deemed it fit to come to see you in this place and share with you some experiences which are disturbing my minds. For even now, I have lost hope of the coming of anything or any god called Otem.
20. For rather than a saviour of our land from the religions of the foreigners, what we have is the massive conversion of our children to those foreign religions while they burn our own objects of meditation, calling them the objects of the devil.
21. Now I think there is no hope anymore. For even as I speak, my children have become Ishlamites. And they touched the ground with their foreheads to worship that which they call Alla.
22. Now I Omokwo said, I know that you Adeiza are an influential homo in Okerune and around. And you have much fame. And if you say that there is no hope, who am I to say that there is?
23. For even my own children are now Krishtenis and they see me as a demon and a devil now. And they say that my ancestors their ancestors are burning now in the fire. And they say that if I do not believe the story of that Zeusus who died in the land where I did not know about, then I shall be cast into fire when I die.
24. Now Adeiza said, let them come here so that I may talk to them so that they might change. For it is for the purpose of taking you to Okerune to talk with my own children have I also come.
25. Now let our hands help one another.
26. Now I said to Adeiza, I cannot bring those children to you here, for they are locked up in the room as a punishment for their wickedness. And they shall remain in that place forever.
27. When Adeiza could not persuade me to release them, I said to him, follow me. And he followed me to the place where my children lay. And Ufedo followed us also. And when we were in the place, we coughed greatly because of the ground pepper I had sprinkled there.
28. And Adeiza said, for how many days have you kept them here without feeding them? And I said, for three days. And Adeiza said, you are the most wicked being I have ever seen.
29. For what offence could have been so great committed against you to warrant starvation of your our creatures which you gave life to?
30. Now while Adeiza spoke, they groaned in pain and said, let us accept Ufedo as our lord now. Let him be everything and anything you have made him to be, but take us out of this hot room and feed us. For you are our father.
31. And I said, no, for it is not my principle to let you out forever. And Adeiza said to me, you are mad, Omokwo. Shall we chase a bad child to the tiger to prey upon?
32. Now set them free or else I shall set them free myself and go apart from you forever.
33. Now when Adeiza said this, I wept. And my children wondered why I wept. And I said, it is only the third day, but I cannot withstand the suffering I put my children to anymore.
34. How then shall there be a god who shall cast his homo in the fire forever without feeding them or forgiving them. Behold I say, such god should be given a chieftancy title in the kingdom of the monsters. For it is not possible for a father to subject his children to starvation and confinement for petty things done, let alone leaving them in a fire forever.
35. Therefore Ajanigo, Alolo, Ebo and Ariga, go and think about that idea of a fire burning your ancestors forever and relate it with the experience you have had here today.
36. For I tell you the truth, whoever makes an afterlife of fire for humanity is a devil and his rivals and superiors who are better than him shall not allow such kind of fire to remain burning. For even as Adeiza forced me to end this punishment, so shall the higher beings who are wise stop whoever that being is who made an eternal fire as a place to be after death.
37. For foolishness is the portion of Yahweh if indeed he ever nursed such kind of afterlife in his mind, let alone making it real. Therefore my children, forgive me for subjecting you through these three days of fasting and heat. For this I do to save you and your future from becoming useless to yourself by wasting your time worshipping a god who is a terrorist.

chemystery:
you are going theism, then what stops me from going atheism? You want us to go your own way only?

KENFERDYOORI:

It doesn't really matter whichever side you take. All I want is objectivity!

chemystery:
ok, lead the way

KENFERDYOORI:


You started the whole thing in the first place.

victorazy:


sins of the fathers always finds way of hurting their children no mater what.
their fathers must have been warned but they refused. people should tremble when they hear the name of God. God prepared that land for his children but has been occupied by [b][/b]strangers, strangers should have made peace to this mysterious God rather than displaying strondheart

mistarsam:


One question, please: Why would a creator suddenly decide that one of his creation is now a stranger?

victorazy:


Simple, like earthly father, do you like your son who doesn't recognize you as father? No!

They worship other gods and forgot their creator.

mistarsam:

1. Will you kill him or condemn him to eternal punishment?
2. Why not call him back to order?
3. The Yorubas have a saying that 'Omo eni o ni buru titi ki a fi fun ekun je' which can be translated as: No matter how recalcitrant/stubborn/wayward your child is, you don't give him away to a lion to devour.
As much as some ancient Nigerian customs are barbaric, there is still a place for compassion and unending love towards others.

What I'm driving at is that if mere mortals can have compassion towards their progeny(their creation), how hard is it for the 'God of love' to have compassion on sinners and not condemn​them to gruesome, eternal punishment?

victorazy:


1. Did God say He will never forgive you?
2. What was the parable of "The prodigal son" Jesus told us meant?
3. My people say "Akawa ma nti anughi, egbupu isi nti ga-eso ya" meaning: warning is given and the ear refuses to hear, when the head will be cut off the ear will follow it.

My bother, we are not doing God a favor BUT ourselves, if we don't serve him, He will raise stones to worship him.

mistarsam:

After committing his time to create us? What a waste!

victorazy:


Your the one thinking that way. He has host of praisers in heaven.
He just trying to help u be like him, so it a choice to follow or not

mistarsam:

Please, my choice is not to follow him. Will I be spared of being roasted in hell if I activate that freewill you just made mention of?