Tonye-t:

Mr.Moderator,

The rate at which peeps are banned here could really be disturbing . Imagine banning someone for over 2times for offences others at other sections commit at-will, how else do you think such a one'll want to continue in fellowship.

@ Deep sight,

I feel you too!

KunleOshob:

I hope the Jihadist haven't gotten him

Mavenb0x:

Deep Sight! Deeeeep Sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wetin be this wan?

Did I say Paradise is IN hades, or did I say that prior to Christ's ressurection, paradise was in Hades? 

No put words for my mouth, na beg I dey beg you. 

Mavenb0x:

Deep Sight! Deeeeep Sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wetin be this wan?

Did I say Paradise is IN hades, or did I say that prior to Christ's ressurection, paradise was in Hades?

No put words for my mouth, na beg I dey beg you.

Omoge Maven

Mavenb0x:

Deep Sight! Deeeeep Sight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wetin be this wan?

Did I say Paradise is IN hades, or did I say that prior to Christ's ressurection, paradise was in Hades?

No put words for my mouth, na beg I dey beg you.

Maven i am suprised that despite all your knowledge and exposure you could make this kind of statement. The problem is that most christians are just tooo closed minded when they read the bible and when something doesn't seem right they try and force other meanings into it. The issue of paradise being in hades is just a case of simple mis-interpretation of the bible. Hades is wrongly translated to mean hell were as in the ancient texts it was written in, it meant "land of the dead" or "grave" so when the bible says Jesus was in "hades" it has nothing to do with paradise or hell, it simply meant he was in a grave. I am also aware that this wrong translation as been the cos of several wrong teachings and doctrines especially amongst IKT preachers like A$$himolowo and crook Oyakhilome. A simple use of a bible concordance and they would have avoided this error. Yet the twarts claim that the "holy spirit" talks to them, i wonder why the holy spirit didn't tell them t stop preaching heresies based on wrong translations of the bible.

Mavenb0x:

Quote by KunleOshob:
@KunleOshob: Sincerely, I must say that it is YOU that surprises me. In my experience, lawyers have been known to make attempts to quote people out of context, and the onus would lie on the observer to consider the initial conversation from which the particular quote was referenced! I am entirely amazed to see you jumping to conclusions when you know a LAWYER is involved and I'm not the lawyer.

The thread is also my current signature, so you can see how the discussion started from the matters of salvation.

[size=13pt]So, tell me sir, DID YOU READ THE DISCUSSION?[/size] Of course you didn't because if you did you would see that

[b]1. I already said there that Hades was a weak translation for the grave, as the ancient Hebrew words insinuated that if you keep climbing upwards and out of the atmosphere, you will proceed into the "heavens" and if you dig deep subterraneously, you will enter Hades. I made it very clear on that thread that there are physical and spiritual aspects of places like Hades, where a spiritual entity causes a physical experience called death and/or the grave. I made it clear that "spiritual locations" are not places that can be described by compass bearings.

2. My point, which has been graciously distorted in Deep Sight's post above, had to do with the story of Lazarus viz a viz how Jesus said that "Today you would be with me in Paradise" to the thief on the cross.

3. The conversation had to do with the person of Christ, who said that no one else had entered into Heaven (the presence of the Father) except him who came down from there, while Deep Sight was arguing that the ancient prophets before Christ were in heaven (rendering Christ's coming as of no effect), and going on to discuss Elijah and co.[/b]

Caveat Emptor: You should KNOW that I don't talk to people on Nairaland the same way. Yourself, Viaro, Deep Sight, Ogaga4luv, The_Seeker, Mazaje, Image123, JeSoul, Olaadegbu ALL hold various worldviews and the way I discuss the matters with each person is different. If I were discussing with YOU, for instance, I believe you understand the sacrifice of Christ (or maybe I am assuming wrong there too?) so I won't bother explaining how Christ had to lead captivity captive when he swallowed up death (a.k.a Hades) and proceeded to heaven.

It would do you a lot of good to read the initial discussion thread in its entirety if you have the time, and post your views there IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THERE rather than jumping to a billion fragmented conclusions on another thread.

P.S> By the way, if you have a problem with Oyakhilome or Ashimolowo, I suggest you take it up with them. Screaming their names at every instance - the way you do - will solve nothing. I don't attend either church (or any other you may probably have in mind) by the way, in case you are wondering. I just don't believe in talking about people in a negative way behind their backs. Where's your courage, sir? 

JeSoul:

Is this really Noetic or a ghost?

Dude you have been missed. DeepSight in particular has had a deep hole in his heart since you've been gone lol. Welcome back. How was the sabbatical?

Deep Sight:

[size=24pt]Hoooooooooorrrrraaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! ! ! ! ! ![/size]