Mrphantom99:
It is impossible to be conscious of being unconscious.

rinrin23:
Some of us have asked and continue to ask these questions.

We have been conditioned to think that "real" is what we can perceive with our 5 senses. However attaining different levels of awareness exposes us to the other realities that exist beyond these 5 senses.

Another way to look at it:
In our time we have Virtual Reality headsets that allow you to simulate(sight and sound) the users physical presence in an imaginary environment. Imagine the evolution of this piece of technology in the next 10 years (sight, sound, taste, touch and more). If immersed long enough one would start to perceive that VR world as real, no?

DOCTUFOS: Hypatia 3:1-7

1. I do not define reality only by the things which are concrete and physical. But I define it also by the things which are perceived in the thoughts and also what are imagined. For even abstract and imaginary things can shapen lives and it is the reality of those who are being shapened by it.
2. However, it is good to be able to differentiate physical realities from abstract realities. Some herbs can bring about hallucinations, which is so real to the person who experiences it. But it is not to say that the hallucinations experienced by that person is physically and universally real. But it is emotionally real, only to the person who experienced it.
3. So reality is both physical and abstract.
4. It shall become a universal poison to accept the abstract reality of a person as the universal reality. And it shall be a disaster. A disaster which we have experienced in the past and we are still experiencing. And if care is not taking, it shall continue to be a disaster which could be avoided.
5. And it shall lead to wars and destructions of life. For when this abstract reality of a very few people on earth is taken up to be imposed upon all people of the world at once, then there shall killing not be lacking.
6. How can you say that this god which is personal to you is the universal God and you expect a thinker to accept it so when such abstract reality of yours has not been personally experienced by me and 99% of the world populace?
7. If I do not accept your abstract personal reality as my own reality, it is not my fault because I did not feel it.

johnydon22:
Otem i love your creativity and all but seriously Hypatia is the name of the last great librarian of the Alexandrian library killed by a mob of saint Cyril, the names within your codex betrays it.

Nice point thought

johnydon22:


Think about this; The atom is 99% empty space, as a matter of fact the entire stadium would be no bigger than a little cup if the empty space of the atom and between the atoms are removed.

So imagine at the scale we perceive such tiny thing due to the deception of the space between and within atoms, this means that everything, all that we perceive and all that we are, are in fact 99% not there and only 1% there.

how real are we?




Just like a question we asked in one of our philosophical discussion meet ups, Are living in a simulation?

Like you rightly pointed out, this universe might actually just be a virtual reality projected within the actual reality just like our mediocre VR now but much more advanced

lordnicklaus:
Our perceptions are but microcosmic bits.

If God does exist (though I believe in Him but for the sake of congruity in this discussion, I have tended to subject my own worldview to scrutiny), then it is obvious that there is no scientifically verifiable system for such entity. Why such posit? This God would exist outside the cosmos and would be totally imperceptible in His innateness and hence to explain this stupefying concept, man needs delve into anthropomorphism.

So, tested systems need apply to explain scientifically unverified systems. Only things within the constrains of our universe can be verified via scientific enquiry and research. Reality could be in different planes or layers but we can only perceive a three dimensional layer

djdoxxx:
I believe we all live within our IMAGINATIONS...

We all live within our INDIVIDUAL IMAGINATIONS..

Our Imaginations are subconscious buildups of Matter (Beliefs & Happenings, things around us) and ENERGY (Positive or Negative ) within us.


Anything can become real....if you can imagine it, then it can manifest provided the needed Energies are activated within the imaginer.

rinrin23:


Atoms and subatomic particles are not even solid as we would think. It is all energy vibrating at different frequencies. Even more shocking is physicists discovering that these subatomic "particles" are waves that only manifest as particles when being observed.

There's a whole lot to this "matrix" that we live in.

djdoxxx:
I believe we all live within our IMAGINATIONS...

We all live within our INDIVIDUAL IMAGINATIONS..

Our Imaginations are subconscious buildups of Matter (Beliefs & Happenings, things around us) and ENERGY (Positive or Negative ) within us.


Anything can become real....if you can imagine it, then it can manifest provided the needed Energies are activated within the imaginer.

johnydon22:
example ?

swegiedon:

Show how we can activate this energy. And good explanation there

ScepticalPyrrho:
Johnnydon

You've taken me back to school days.
Interesting discuss it is.

Reality: is subjective to the perceiver.

djdoxxx:


The ONLY way to Activate your Imaginations is to REFLECT on them...

And, the ONLY way to activate your REFLECTIONS is to develop internal ENERGIES ( positive or negative ) towards your REFLECTS.

The easiest way to activate ANY of these Energies( positive or negative ) within you is to "WRITE".

Johnnydon22 , Seun, Akin Alabi, Pavore9, Plattoen and so many smart nairalanders on here unconsciously, subconsciously and consciously KNOW that " WRITING" is the ACTION TRIGGER to grow and make manifest any imagination from the unconsciousness to consciousness (real life).



Coincidentally, this thread is another virtual trigger to my real existence ( who I really am?). Something I have been shying away from...



A pointer: Ask yourself this question;

Why really do I exist ?





This is a question every living individual should have answer(s) to.





And the answer(s) to the question above can not be farfetched when you answer yourself with this question :

"What is my service to humanity ?"




Now, this is becoming more confusing right?




And the answer(s) to the immediate question above can not be farfetched when you answer yourself with this question :


" What can I do to HEAL THE WORLD?"


Rings a bell right?
...Michael Jackson was totally right when he sang back in time with some other amazing musicians who saw the need for the world to be a better place when they activated their REFLECTIONS through WRITING the Lyrics and SINGING the song ' Heal The World'. ( That is their own way of helping humanity - touching the life of humanity through strings and chords of their hands and voice). No doubt, helping humanity brings about ABSOLUTE SUCCESS.


Yea, the world already is in so many problems and troubles today...how do you and I contribute to solving/reducing one or many of the problems of the world?


This simple act is what makes successful people successful - Solving problems for people ; and this makes them happy and successful.

And the ONLY way to achieve success (helping people; solving problems) is to BE REAL.

Being REAL is to practice and master the "ART of Nature"



I am presently working on a book I titled : " The School of Life - LIFE IN BRIEF"...

Once I'm done, I will be putting it up on nairaland for free.... I will be sending you personal copy if you so want one.

swegiedon:

You struck lots of cord. I now see I have been dulling for a long while now, about writing I so most love that aspect and it's time I use that part of me, for example when a movie gets out I don't watch it, I read the scripts instead, you said a lot if things, giving all the dudes on the street who got misfortunes gives me joy.i would like we chat apart from this platform,i would check your signature to add you on whatsapp.thanks

djdoxxx:


Yea...Writers control their World...

Even a lazy diary writer; has got more control and positive influence of his/her life than those who live a "routined" or guided life.

Reason: Your mental and physical emotions are wired to act INLINE with whatever you want to have "written" down on your diary...hence, you are always accustomed to reaching goals as writing a diary becomes an occasionally or frequently 'TASK REFLECTION' which starts by a deliberate or conscious decision-making.

Once, you are able to translate most of the things you think into imaginations, and you are able to channel your imaginations into various scenarios, the next action to take is to write them down. More often, it helps you trace back your focus especially when you have drifted from your historical pursuits - which can be thence blended with your new pursuits if need be.

Writing stuffs in YOUR OWN HANDWRITING ( whether in pen or pencils) remains the TRUE and FIRST ACTION to take to get things - especially great done.

The beginning of every great idea starts with a pen.

djdoxxx:


The ONLY way to Activate your Imaginations is to REFLECT on them...

And, the ONLY way to activate your REFLECTIONS is to develop internal ENERGIES ( positive or negative ) towards your REFLECTS.

The easiest way to activate ANY of these Energies( positive or negative ) within you is to "WRITE".

Johnnydon22 , Seun, Akin Alabi, Pavore9, Plattoen and so many smart nairalanders on here unconsciously, subconsciously and consciously KNOW that " WRITING" is the ACTION TRIGGER to grow and make manifest any imagination from the unconsciousness to consciousness (real life).



Coincidentally, this thread is another virtual trigger to my real existence ( who I really am?). Something I have been shying away from...



A pointer: Ask yourself this question;

Why really do I exist ?





This is a question every living individual should have answer(s) to.





And the answer(s) to the question above can not be farfetched when you answer yourself with this question :

"What is my service to humanity ?"




Now, this is becoming more confusing right?




And the answer(s) to the immediate question above can not be farfetched when you answer yourself with this question :


" What can I do to HEAL THE WORLD?"


Rings a bell right?
...Michael Jackson was totally right when he sang back in time with some other amazing musicians who saw the need for the world to be a better place when they activated their REFLECTIONS through WRITING the Lyrics and SINGING the song ' Heal The World'. ( That is their own way of helping humanity - touching the life of humanity through strings and chords of their hands and voice). No doubt, helping humanity brings about ABSOLUTE SUCCESS.


Yea, the world already is in so many problems and troubles today...how do you and I contribute to solving/reducing one or many of the problems of the world?


This simple act is what makes successful people successful - Solving problems for people ; and this makes them happy and successful.

And the ONLY way to achieve success (helping people; solving problems) is to BE REAL.

Being REAL is to practice and master the "ART of Nature"



I am presently working on a book I titled : " The School of Life - LIFE IN BRIEF"...

Once I'm done, I will be putting it up on nairaland for free.... I will be sending you personal copy if you so want one.

Sapiosexuality:
Let me sit here and read excerpts from individuals, who just like me, know zero about what they are talking about.

SamjohnnyB:


Please I will love to have a copy of your book when u finish. Thanks

johnydon22:


Hahahahahahaha this is somehow true, we all are unsure of our assertions but that doesn't mean we cannot try. Carl Sagan once said "Imaginations can take us to worlds that never was but without it we go no where"

PastorAIO:
Hello. What a fantastic topic.


How do we define real though? For instance, if I dream of banana flavoured Ice cream and my mouth waters was the ice cream real?

Well, one might argue that the neural configuration in my brain that created the image of the ice cream was real but not the ice cream.

Well, everything that makes an impression on our perceptions is due to a neural configuration or the other. So is everything perceived as unreal as an imaginary icecream?

What if parallel universes exists whereby nothing that happens in one universe can have any bearing or any effect on what happens in another universe, would the events of one universe be real to the inhabitant of the other universe?

I used to have a definition that said something is only Real if an influence from it can somehow, anyhow, make an effect on my life.

So even the most distant invisible star would be real to me because it effects the slightest gravitational pull on me. But something that had zero effect cannot be said to be real.

Then there is the matter of phenomena vs Substance. Is the world as we perceive it Reality, or is it just the representation of a deeper reality that cannot be apprehended directly.

And what if the Phenomena (that which appears to the senses) is not in a fixed relationship to the Substance (that which lies beneath hidden).

Maybe a particular substance appears as one phenomenon today and then another unrelated phenomenon tomorrow. Could the phenomena be said to be Real?