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Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by LEOVOLUTION(m): 11:46am On Jun 26, 2017 |
gberra: And Christianity has come to go? Try and focus on your president and leave the U.S alone. Have you not asked yourself why every country that tolerated Islam pay for it with the lives of its citizens. #Dont_forget_the_golden_rule 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by ivolt: 11:46am On Jun 26, 2017 |
banmee: It is this same thinking that cost the democrats the 2016 election, they failed to realise that America is much more than New York and Chicago. Those who fail to see beyond their nose usually get the shocking of their life. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by LEOVOLUTION(m): 11:55am On Jun 26, 2017 |
Meritocracy:Oga who told you that the lenting period is characterized by fasting? You're here shouting " what you don't know is killing you" have you ever asked yourself what's kept Christianity going even after so many tribulations by Islam? and speaking of congregation, at least Christians aren't brainwashed into blowing themselves alongside other innocent people up. Now hows that for your hypocritical pattern of reasoning. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by banmee(m): 11:59am On Jun 26, 2017 |
ivolt: That is not why they lost the election. Democrats have become lazy and they expect someone else to do the work for them. They thought it was a foregone conclusion that they would win the election so they did not show up on election day. Wait until the next election and see what happens. Every issue of policy that the Democrats push for is agreed on by majority of Americans. Free education and health care for all etc. If you know our history, you'd know that this is not the first time this has happened. It's happened multiple times. The most notable was Nixon and we know how that ended. Also, it is always the same thing. Republicans ruin the economy and democrats fix it. Just look at all the rubbish executive orders Trump has signed to date and the caliber of people in his cabinet. Betsy Devos as secretary of education. Lol.... Really? |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by Godstraight(m): 12:05pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
Benekruku:first of all I wanted to correct something,there has never been an openly open atheist or Muslim president in US history.In never said the US is s Christian country,UK and is real are constitutionally Christian and Judaist but majorly of the people in the past decade have been irreligious, that's why they are secular ublie the US a secular gonverment but Christian majority(demographics will change soon though),get it that's why when a politician like trump comes along and run certain religious and political sentiments he usually wins |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by BackToLife: 12:16pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
Obama made a moslem man CIA head, what?!!! Americans don't realize yet the great favour that GOD has done for them, Hillary=Obama=Islam=AntiChrist=illuminati=Repentless killers, go figure. My prayer is that GOD that did it for America, shall soon do it for Nigeria in Yahshua Christ Jesus Name. AMEN!!! 1 Like |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by kjhova(m): 12:32pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
ivolt:My original comment already answered your question unless you didn't read it. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by Quinn22(f): 12:40pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
There's no hate that is greater or less, hate is hate. The terrorist that committed those atrocities does not speak for all muslims, those terrorist make up to 0.1% of the Muslim population. So please stop the generalisation, aren't there terrorist killing muslims and destroying mosques too? Why didn't you think about that? If all muslims are terrorist, do you think you would be alive by now? Think about it? I have lots of Muslim friends and I can beat my chest and say they are the nicest, modest and generous people on earth than my Christian counterparts. Do you know the more people hate on muslims the more devoted they will be to their religion and the more united they become, it's called reverse psychology. You christians are making the muslims win in different angles if you don't know. Please remove all manner of sentiments and hate in your heart for your fellow human being ❤️ it's not humility, it's barbaric. ivolt: 1 Like |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 12:40pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
ivolt: Maybe so, or at least in your deluded mind.. Meanwhile your so tagged "7th Century backward religion" happens to be consistently providing a standard worthy society life and meaningful existence for its followers; a feat which you and your group of repulsive ideologist have woefully failed to provide for yourselves with your "...he died for my sins" wishful thinking. You think it's by accident that the LARGEST DEPOSIT OF CRUDE OIL on the surface of planet earth found its way to Mohammed's birthplace, (the Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia) Dude back off, am not your everyday lukewarm Nairaland Muslim that you can hiss at and walk free. You throw stones at me - I will throw grenades at you. You wave a stick at me - I will unleash Kalashnikov 45 on you. Now be a good boy and go buy some lolly pop. ROLL! 1 Like |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by kjhova(m): 12:44pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
Fourwinds: I have a headache reading your comment, my dear friend. You sound like you didn't read my original comment at all cuz if you did, you would have noticed that I condemned Saudi Arabia and the Vatican in my very first paragraph for being religious. A typical Christian, Jewish or Islamic state will frown at other religions and try to influence and or force citizens to conform to the state religion alone. This is counter productive to development and the western nations became mostly secular after realizing this. Many Arab/Islamic states are yet to figure this out and many will do so in the future as I am convinced that secularity is the ultimate destiny of mankind. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by SoldierBoy1(m): 12:46pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
DaPuncline:You sound like someone that one can engage in a discussion without u dishing out insults... Speaking of live and let live Islamic Jihadists that kill in the name of religion should also live and let live also since our country is a free state I think the design of the presidential villa should also be looked into, Also, consider our currency with Arabic writings over it, take a look at ABU too why should a federal institution have Arabic Inscriptions over it, also in unilorin when last has a Christian been made VC... In my opinion living and letting others live is not truly being practiced in this country. 1 Like |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 12:58pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
LEOVOLUTION: And what happened to those countries who allowed Christianity in while they try going to sleep with both eyes closed... they paid dearly! You wouldn't know anything about this would you History eludes the gullible. It's called CRUSADES and INQUISITIONS (of the earlier centuries) 2 Likes
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Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by Fourwinds: 12:59pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
kjhova:OK |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
GworoChewinMaga: GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. honestly, this trump guy is trying to bring out what is the real meaning when they say "ISLAM MEANS PEACE, UNITY............" because these Islamic countries do not accept any other form of religion into their country and even if you are fortunate to get there and pronounce your faith in Christianity or any other religion, it is either you are punished or even killed but they go to other countries to say some shit about their's and they are welcomed for the sake of peace. TELL ME NOW ..................WHO ARE THE HYPOCRATES TELL ME NOW ..................WHO REALLY WANTS PEACE AND UNITY |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 1:13pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
LEOVOLUTION: The Muslim pilgrimage in mecca, Saudi Arabia... is the largest (CONGREGATION of MANKIND (Tens of Millions) for over TWELVE THOUSAND years now. One Thousand Roads to Mecca : Ten Centuries of Travelers https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=OE1kCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT66&lpg=PT66&dq=the+largest+CONGREGATION+of+mankind++is+mecca&source=bl&ots=4Bq3FJsRQd&sig=hvn0n0ds9QZq3ZkSHwjNUf89e4A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqlLyDvNvUAhUDfxoKHRjMBxUQ6AEIIzAH http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/biggest-religious-gatherings-in-the-world/article6799109.ece&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiqlLyDvNvUAhUDfxoKHRjMBxUQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEkkcoru2ksp5_cTR3InskZ_b7sgA how's that for lunch. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 1:15pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
LEOVOLUTION: The Muslim pilgrimage in mecca, Saudi Arabia... is the largest CONGREGATION of MANKIND (Tens of Millions) for over TWELVE consistence THOUSAND years. How's that for ONENESS and HOLINESS. One Thousand Roads to Mecca : Ten Centuries of Travelers http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/biggest-religious-gatherings-in-the-world/article6799109.ece&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiqlLyDvNvUAhUDfxoKHRjMBxUQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNEkkcoru2ksp5_cTR3InskZ_b7sgA how's that for lunch.
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Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by DaPuncline: 1:57pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
SoldierBoy1:Can you sincerely point out any insult i dished out? I strongly condemn the jihadist that Kill in the name of religion, it's totally absurd and some of the Islamic cleric have disowned them. The design of the aso Villa might be drifted towards the Islamic pattern, but do you want it to be demolished? it was built during the military era when the rule of law is of no use. As regards our currency, since the beginning of the fourth republic, christian president has ruled for 13 years, we've had Christian CBN governors for 13 years: What have they done about it? As regards the issue of V.C appointments in Nigeria, Has any Christian been made the V. C of UNN, FUTO, UNIPORT or UNIZIK? Your argument is clearly one-sided. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by SoldierBoy1(m): 2:10pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
DaPuncline:U did not read what I wrote well instead I commended you for not dishing out insults as some would do... About CBN past governors I blame it on the insensitivity of those guys but in the case of the federal universities u mentioned they are all located in the SE and SScontaining up to 98%Christians but unilorin is in a Yoruba city with mixed religions with Christians having a considerable number of academia in the school which does not apply in universities in the SE and SS Anyways nice points Bro |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by DaPuncline: 5:41pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
SoldierBoy1:"You sound like someone that one can engage in a discussion without u dishing out insults". sorry i got you wrong about the insults, all other points are noted. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by ivolt: 5:47pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: Please wake up from your slumber, most countries who take the barbaric religion serious are shitholes replete with poverty, abuse and violence. Ever since Jihadists lost the power to invade and plunder "infidel" nations, the nation of Islam has economically grounded to a halt because the adherents who are discouraged from thinking can't survive without slaves. The religion provides no benefit to its adherents except the claim of being part of the deluded "billions" as if population is in itself valuable. A religion that turns normal men to beast and kids to killer machines cannot be said to be providing "standard worthy society life" unless you don't know the meaning of that phrase. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by ivolt: 6:25pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
Quinn22: Hating a snake because its venom is deadly is a rational and legitimate reaction. It is a pity that you can't differentiate between a dangerous ideology and a person. Speaking out against racist isn't a personal attack, it is an attack on the specific negative action of such person. I come from a muslim background and most of my friends are also muslims, most muslims are peaceful because they chose humanity over religion, the ones that value their religion tend to become violent. Most muslims knew little and don't care about their Islamic duties, that is why the world is at peace, same way if jews decide to follow even 10% of their Torah, they will be nothing but uncivilized savages and will pose a great threat to world peace. You are being naive and largely ignorant of history, just one terrorist can destroy a thousand lives, this isn't a game of numbers it is a game of will, you don't need a billion muslim to carry out effective terror attacks, you just need a few. here is a quote from the glorious Quran
The naive "infidels" who disregarded the above verse, because "the muslim army are few" paid dearly, they lost their possessions, power and lives in the process. As for the unity of muslims, why should anyone be scared of that ? I am surprised that you are against muslim unity while pretending to care. In fact their unity will be a good thing because we will then have someone to hold responsible for terrorists attacks. But again such unity requires a stretch because the muslims haven't been able to solve their thousand years civil wars. Many muslims suffer from superiority-complex, that is why they demand everyone do their wish(like those attacking Trump for not celebrating Ramadan even though there is no constitutional reasons to do so) because they see themselves special people. The same superiority ideology that make Saudi ban the building of temples or churches in Saudi Arabia but turn around to build mosques in China and Europe. It is the same ideology of superiority that led hitler to murder 6 million jews and caused millions of other deaths. Never assume anyone attacking an extreme Islamic belief is a christian, I am not a christian but I can recognise danger when I see one. I will advise you get an history book and learn how world politics works, maybe you will just stop being a pawn in the power game of jihadists. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 7:08pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
ivolt: No need ranting. just show me one of your native (Black African) country that is economically better off (or at least futuristically more secured) than any core Muslim Arab nation. You bunch can't even herd yourself progressively let alone hit an home run. The fact remains that an American sitting president (touted as number one president of the world) deem it expedient to make his first official foreign visit to an Islamic kingdom (of Saudi Arabia). If this does not connote SIGNIFICANCE to you then you are certainly demented and terrible needs mental evaluation before you start to unclad publicly and hit the streets. frustration is killing you. Islam has just taken over your world, live with it or go berserk. I care less. 1 Like |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by ivolt: 7:18pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: If Islam has taken over the world, why then are you crying that Trump, an inconsequential infidel refused to acknowledge your worship of the moon god ? This latest post gave shows that your reasoning capability is at best at imbecilic, an average intelligence person will understand that Trump's visit is nothing but the classic empire game of appeasing useful idiot to help fight your enemy(Iran). Yet, your obsession with external validation has blinded you from seeing the visit for what it is. I know you are mentally retarded from the constant dumbing down you receive from mosques about the greatness of your religion when in reality you are nothing but an abd(slave) to the Arabs. I wish you freedom from mental slavery some day. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by SoldierBoy1(m): 7:24pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
DaPuncline:No problem Bro... Have a great day... It's always nice to discuss this kind of thing with a resourceful person |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by cristianisraeli: 8:06pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: stop spreading fake news..the crusaders stop the muslims from spreading islam all over the world https://www.nairaland.com/3867107/correcting-lies-what-truly-started |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by factwriter(m): 8:08pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
ivolt: Like I said... live with it or go berserk —I careless. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by cristianisraeli: 8:10pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
trump is the kind of leader we need...someone that can look the muslim world in the face.....do u know the last islamic caliphate ended in turkeyISIS is trying to bring it back...when the saudis start celebrating christmas then muslims can talk..until then keep crying |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by cristianisraeli: 8:17pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: Crusade History “The Crusades” generally refers to the set of seven distinct campaigns over a 150 year period (A.D. 1099 to 1254) that were enacted to liberate the Holy Land from Muslim control. Since the birth of Islam under Muhammad, Muslims had fought to bring the world under their control. Islam got off to a weak start under Muhammad until violence became the modus operandi. After a few centuries of conquest, though, Islam had spread to North Africa, the Middle East, Asia Minor, and into Spain. By the 11th century, the Seljuk Turks had taken control of Palestine and closed Jerusalem to both Jews and Christians. The Muslim invaders attacked Constantinople (the capitol of the Eastern Roman Empire and the Eastern Church), and were headed into Europe, before the first Crusade was called by Pope Urban II in 1095 to defend the Christian West. The word “Crusade” was not actually used during this time, now was “war” since these campaigns were considered more of a religious pilgrimage. After the 12th century, the word was used to designate those fighting on “croisade” – a French term meaning “the way of the cross." During the First Crusade, Jerusalem was successfully recaptured. Crusader territories were established that the Second Crusade (1147-1149) was called to reinforce. By 1191, Jerusalem and many of these Crusader territories had fallen back into Muslim hands, so a Third Crusade was called to attempt recovery. This led to the famous clash between the Muslim leader Saladin and Richard the Lionhearted (who was not able to regain Jerusalem from the Muslim forces). The Fourth Crusade was launched in 1202, but, for various reasons, ended up coming against Constantinople itself. This divided both Empire and Church, and the East would never forgive the West for the atrocities that occurred (which sadly mirrored previous atrocities from the East). The Fifth Crusade started in 1217 in Egypt – largely going nowhere. The Sixth Crusade in 1228 was directed back toward Palestine. It was successful, but short-lived. The and Seventh Crusade lasted from 1248-1254, with Islamic forces destroying the remnants of the Crusader territories. Crusading came to an end shortly thereafter. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by ivolt: 8:20pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: This statement is meaningless, I am not the one crying of marginalization, your brothers almost went mad in anger because an obnoxious Trump refuse to celebrate Ramadan. You guys reacted like a kid that lost its candy. |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by Soulsymbol99: 8:29pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
[quote author=GworoChewinMaga post=57830970]When they start holding Christmas carols in the Saudi royal palace then maybe Trump will reconsider[/quote U actually hv a point |
Re: Trump Ends Decades-long White House Tradition Of Celebrating Ramadan. by LEOVOLUTION(m): 9:10pm On Jun 26, 2017 |
factwriter: Dude during the crusades, politics infiltrated the papacy(seen then as undisputable) where knights and artisans alike were wrongfully preached into killing in the name of God(mind you, the corrupt papacy at the time, put the bible away from the reach of the common man just so they could brainwash the devote masses.) . But guess what? It didn't just feel right. Questions Started flying, questions which in turn sparked a renaissance amongst bible scholars who knew what was right people like martin Luther and co. They fought the system at the time, armed the common man with the word and in turn abolished such genocide supporting interpretations of the holy scriptures, in other words they preached love and tolerance. . It's a sad but undeniable part of our history. Good thing it had been abolished( as you can see). . Now lets talk about you. In the past you've practiced jihad AKA 'holy war' you've had your fair share of the historical bloodbath. You guys claim your renaissance came. Now please tell me why from ages to ages, massive killings in Allah's still hugs our headlines? Why wherever you Islam is welcome, trails of blood follow(@least Yoruba Muslims try in curtailing that though, but why is it still prevalent?) what really is your problem? Now hows that for dinner? |
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