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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 6:08am On Aug 20, 2017
JUO:
if you are not bothered about picture quality get android tv they are energy efficient. If you are get LG or Samsung 4k less than 600k for 50-65" or get a toks for around 200-350k. Oled is the most efficient but price is over 1m for the bigger size or get a toks for 400-600k. If your budget is less than 300k look for any Chinese 4k. Please note if you getting toks be sure is not more than 2 years old, that is 2015 upward

which one is android tv? any link pls?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 6:10am On Aug 20, 2017
FOR THOSE THINKING OF ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF ENERGY.... have you guys thought about thermo-generators. those modules using the Seebeck's principle?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Talibanis: 6:44am On Aug 20, 2017
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by DUNKA(m): 8:58am On Aug 20, 2017
JUO:
if you are not bothered about picture quality get android tv they are energy efficient. If you are get LG or Samsung 4k less than 600k for 50-65" or get a toks for around 200-350k. Oled is the most efficient but price is over 1m for the bigger size or get a toks for 400-600k. If your budget is less than 300k look for any Chinese 4k. Please note if you getting toks be sure is not more than 2 years old, that is 2015 upward
Thanks
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 9:29am On Aug 20, 2017
Trippledots:


which one is android tv? any link pls?

Its also known as "smart led TV" which you can use for live steaming - google , YouTube, Netflix,CNN, amazon etc .. Its has intelligent sensors , clear voice , HDMI, PC input, smart energy saving ,USB support, dynamic super contrast ratio etc ..Cheer's !
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by xij38580: 10:20am On Aug 20, 2017
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 3:01pm On Aug 20, 2017
I know you asked specifically for advice about a new energy efficient TV to buy, but I would say you should first sit down and do the math - even an energy efficient TV would consume some watts at the larger screen sizes - say your Plasma is peak 300w consumption and the latest equivalent energy saving OLED is 100w - is a 200w energy saving worth spending 500k to 1million naira on?

If you ran your TV for say 8 hours daily, then you save 200w * 8hours = 1.6kwhr - that is about 70% of the useable power in a good 12v 200ah battery.

Consider doing an energy audit - you might find other power guzzlers you could shave off e.g. fridges and freezers don't really need to run 24/7 so you could put them on a timer overnight OR if you have solar there might be scope for some optimization if you invite a professional to audit your system - with a midpoint spend of 500k,instead of a new TV, you could easily purchase 6pieces 300w Tier 2 panels and have change left for cabling and installation fees OR you could easily purchase 4pieces new 12v 200ah batteries with at least 8kwhr useable power in them OR you could pay your Nepa bills for more than one year OR fuel your generator for at least one year as well.

If however your mind is made up or you just need to have that new OLED TV then by all means go ahead, the outlay is justified by getting your heart's desires but not necessarily the short run energy savings that may accrue - this is especially true if you are using any Renewable Energy power source where your upfront costs are already sunk.

DUNKA:
Good day house,

I currently have a 60 inch LG Plasma TV which is a wattage guzzling monster.

In the market for a more energy efficient model of any brand sized 50 inches and above.

Any advise /pointer would be really appreciated.

Regards

tivta:


The best would be oled (but very expensive) followed by led(full led) third is lcd. The issue is the larger the screen the more power it consumes (oled however manages to reduce power consumption).

JUO:
if you are not bothered about picture quality get android tv they are energy efficient. If you are get LG or Samsung 4k less than 600k for 50-65" or get a toks for around 200-350k. Oled is the most efficient but price is over 1m for the bigger size or get a toks for 400-600k. If your budget is less than 300k look for any Chinese 4k. Please note if you getting toks be sure is not more than 2 years old, that is 2015 upward

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JUO(m): 8:32pm On Aug 20, 2017
NiyiOmoIyunade:
I know you asked specifically for advice about a new energy efficient TV to buy, but I would say you should first sit down and do the math - even an energy efficient TV would consume some watts at the larger screen sizes - say your Plasma is peak 300w consumption and the latest equivalent energy saving OLED is 100w - is a 200w energy saving worth spending 500k to 1million naira on?

If you ran your TV for say 8 hours daily, then you save 200w * 8hours = 1.6kwhr - that is about 70% of the useable power in a good 12v 200ah battery.

Consider doing an energy audit - you might find other power guzzlers you could shave off e.g. fridges and freezers don't really need to run 24/7 so you could put them on a timer overnight OR if you have solar there might be scope for some optimization if you invite a professional to audit your system - with a midpoint spend of 500k,instead of a new TV, you could easily purchase 6pieces 300w Tier 2 panels and have change left for cabling and installation fees OR you could easily purchase 4pieces new 12v 200ah batteries with at least 8kwhr useable power in them OR you could pay your Nepa bills for more than one year OR fuel your generator for at least one year as well.

If however your mind is made up or you just need to have that new OLED TV then by all means go ahead, the outlay is justified by getting your heart's desires but not necessarily the short run energy savings that may accrue - this is especially true if you are using any Renewable Energy power source where your upfront costs are already sunk.





this your analysis no work at all. There are huge differences between plasma and oled, e.g crystal clear picture, upto 2160p. Highly energy efficient cos of the led back lit. It doesn't necessarily mean he can buy oled 4k, 1080p TV is still available in the market and I know it costs between 150-300k depending on the brand. Did you consider bad weather before this suggestion? Did you consider battery dod at night on huge loads? It may sound ridiculous to some people but I don't need to generate 10-15kwh daily simply because I want to stick to my old devices. Believe me if I have 2000w array I will power 1 AC, 2 deep freezers, 2 tvs, 20 bulbs, 4 ceilings, washing machine, electric iron and my house will enjoy 24/7 light, sounds impossible right? I have just 1kw array and I bought my battery in May 2014 that is over 3 years now and I wake with 25.2v even after 3 years of usage. Did you know the secret? I changed everything in my house in less than 2 years even the 1kw array is too much for me to use cos by 12pm my batteries are fully charged. I have tried to kill the T105 to no avail. I am tired of using one battery for over 3 years I want to test another battery

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by tivta(m): 8:25am On Aug 21, 2017
JUO:
this your analysis no work at all. There are huge differences between plasma and oled, e.g crystal clear picture, upto 2160p. Highly energy efficient cos of the led back lit. It doesn't necessarily mean he can buy oled 4k, 1080p TV is still available in the market and I know it costs between 150-300k depending on the brand. Did you consider bad weather before this suggestion? Did you consider battery dod at night on huge loads? It may sound ridiculous to some people but I don't need to generate 10-15kwh daily simply because I want to stick to my old devices. Believe me if I have 2000w array I will power 1 AC, 2 deep freezers, 2 tvs, 20 bulbs, 4 ceilings, washing machine, electric iron and my house will enjoy 24/7 light, sounds impossible right? I have just 1kw array and I bought my battery in May 2014 that is over 3 years now and I wake with 25.2v even after 3 years of usage. Did you know the secret? I changed everything in my house in less than 2 years even the 1kw array is too much for me to use cos by 12pm my batteries are fully charged. I have tried to kill the T105 to no avail. I am tired of using one battery for over 3 years I want to test another battery

Gbam, you have said it all, even in western countries, the government is insisting that manufacturers produce more power efficient devices to reduce strain on the power supply provided. Going green involves changing into energy efficient devices.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by bigrovar(m): 11:17am On Aug 21, 2017
NiyiOmoIyunade:
I know you asked specifically for advice about a new energy efficient TV to buy, but I would say you should first sit down and do the math - even an energy efficient TV would consume some watts at the larger screen sizes - say your Plasma is peak 300w consumption and the latest equivalent energy saving OLED is 100w - is a 200w energy saving worth spending 500k to 1million naira on?

If you ran your TV for say 8 hours daily, then you save 200w * 8hours = 1.6kwhr - that is about 70% of the useable power in a good 12v 200ah battery.

Consider doing an energy audit - you might find other power guzzlers you could shave off e.g. fridges and freezers don't really need to run 24/7 so you could put them on a timer overnight OR if you have solar there might be scope for some optimization if you invite a professional to audit your system - with a midpoint spend of 500k,instead of a new TV, you could easily purchase 6pieces 300w Tier 2 panels and have change left for cabling and installation fees OR you could easily purchase 4pieces new 12v 200ah batteries with at least 8kwhr useable power in them OR you could pay your Nepa bills for more than one year OR fuel your generator for at least one year as well.

If however your mind is made up or you just need to have that new OLED TV then by all means go ahead, the outlay is justified by getting your heart's desires but not necessarily the short run energy savings that may accrue - this is especially true if you are using any Renewable Energy power source where your upfront costs are already sunk.

My brother, the difference between a plasma and led in terms of power consumption is night and day. I know a friend whose 42 Inch plasma consumes over 400w. Mine consumes 20w (18w on ijebu mode) the 380w difference less than what I use to power my house at full load (which includes a freezer, fridge, Tv, some fans, lights etc. I started my offgrid journey with 2 240w panels and they did serve me because of efficiency I built into the system. I do understand your point on sunk cost and high cost of changing appliances. But remember, to conserve electricity is cheaper than to generate it.

You don't have to buy an Oled, you can always get LED, it is very efficient and the 1080p is quite good (How many 1080p content are even out there, how many channels on DSTV are 1080p, less than 10%) it would take a long long time before 4k content becomes mainstream. If you sell you plasma and use the net gains to buy an LED it is worth is. Tv is one of most used items in your home. its not unusual to expect to use it for 10 hours in a day. 10 * 300 = 3000wh, that is 3kwh in a day just to run Television.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 1:36pm On Aug 21, 2017
Hmmmm My Ogas JUO,Tivtar,BigRovar - see how all of una just dey enter me viciously because I say make person evaluate all the options with actual savings numbers to see if the savings will be worthwhile and all this in the context of the TV prices supplied. sad sad sad

Its all a question of philosophy/preference how to optimize your energy generation vs. loads - sometimes you need to generate more power and sometimes you need to switch to more energy efficient appliances - in my case I have usually opted for more power generation vs. buying new appliances (e.g. I use a 55 inch TV bought in 2014 @ 170k or so - it consumes 130w on average but I still chose it over the 55w power efficient equivalent TV at the time which cost over 500K in the same Samsung showroom - the savings made, I used to setup my new apartment and also change my then 2 year old failing batteries - these were the good old days when solid 12v 200ah batteries could be had for 50k apiece grin

Will I upgrade that my 55 inch 130w TV soon? not likely - I plan to use it until it dies a natural death at a ripe old age - conversely I recently bought a 5kw MustPower inverter which I later discovered had a 230w idle/no load draw (this after a few months of wondering why my battery backup time had suddenly deteriorated with no new loads added) - it never occurred to me to measure the inverter idle consumption until one day I accidentally had my clamp meter on the inverter battery +ve cable while the AC output changeover was in neutral so no load on the inverter, I still thought my eyes were seeing 4.5amps battery draw in error or the clamp meter had a fault but after other independent checks I sadly concluded I had purchased a power guzzling monster of an inverter - a whopping 5.5kw daily consumption just to power the inverter's internal circuitry - at the earliest opportunity, I ditched that inverter for a more efficient one.

Very valid points you have made about energy efficiency - one just has to find his own comfortable mid-point and decide whether to invest new money in more power generation or more energy conservation or a blend of both - in all cases running the actual cost/benefit analysis will help make a good decision.






bigrovar:


My brother, the difference between a plasma and led in terms of power consumption is night and day. I know a friend whose 42 Inch plasma consumes over 400w. Mine consumes 20w (18w on ijebu mode) the 380w difference less than what I use to power my house at full load (which includes a freezer, fridge, Tv, some fans, lights etc. I started my offgrid journey with 2 240w panels and they did serve me because of efficiency I built into the system. I do understand your point on sunk cost and high cost of changing appliances. But remember, to conserve electricity is cheaper than to generate it.

You don't have to buy an Oled, you can always get LED, it is very efficient and the 1080p is quite good (How many 1080p content are even out there, how many channels on DSTV are 1080p, less than 10%) it would take a long long time before 4k content becomes mainstream. If you sell you plasma and use the net gains to buy an LED it is worth is. Tv is one of most used items in your home. its not unusual to expect to use it for 10 hours in a day. 10 * 300 = 3000wh, that is 3kwh in a day just to run Television.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nkdave: 2:49pm On Aug 21, 2017
Uncle Dunka,
Nothing pains me more than generating energy, only to have a single appliance guzzle it down in a matter of minutes, that was my experience with my "90w" hunch back, which had great picture quality, but also what seemed like a transformer inside it, which was too wicked for my small AE setup. Hence had to start researching for alternative visual displays also, that's when a friend in the Uk pointed me to these;

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-AODIN-M9-Mini-DLP-Smart-Projector-with-Touch-Keys-16G-32G-Memory-HD-Proyector-Beamer/32807438473

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Intelligent-phone-android4-4-wifi-bluetooth-projector-build-in-battery-pre-install-KODI-NETFLIX-YOUTUBE-FACEBOOK/32552278671

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad-core-ARM-Cortex-A7-bluetooth-Android-4-4-wifi-Portable-Smart-led-pico-handheld/32515891884

You could also look them up on Amazon to compare prices.

I must say that I cannot quantify the joy and fulfilment I've had with myself since last month when my one arrived. Is it the portability of it, or the sound when paired with a Boss Bluetooth sound bar, or the sheer ingenuity, or the fact that it's got inbuilt battery that can last another 2hrs off power watching anything on it.

I know you could ask about having to have your living room turned dark just to watch tv, well, I didn't do sciences, so I can't really do justice to the latest technological components employed to make these, but I'm going to refer you to YouTube; search for "Using projectors as Tv" and you can download as many reviews on there as possible, there are a handful of reviews by MindSeed Tv and other Youtubers on projectors.. And no, you dont need a projector screen, just project straight to your clean wall.

Regards.

P.s; also take note of the info in below attached image.

DUNKA:
Good day house,

I currently have a 60 inch LG Plasma TV which is a wattage guzzling monster.

In the market for a more energy efficient model of any brand sized 50 inches and above.

Any advise /pointer would be really appreciated.

Regards

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by viperVIP: 5:17pm On Aug 21, 2017
who has a cheap used mppt charge controller for sale?
prolly within range of 20k...

Please!!!
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by viperVIP: 5:33pm On Aug 21, 2017
Reprobate:


wish you are a known face or name...who will vouch for you?..
what is your location

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 6:28pm On Aug 23, 2017
all,
i spent the past two weeks testing out my new midnite solar classic 150 cc and now
i'm ready to give the lowdown. while i was at it, i also put the midnite head to head
with the morningstar. a few surprises and not a few mehs as you would expect.
watch out for my review.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 7:20pm On Aug 23, 2017
Nkdave:
Uncle Dunka,
Nothing pains me more than generating energy, only to have a single appliance guzzle it down in a matter of minutes, that was my experience with my "90w" hunch back, which had great picture quality, but also what seemed like a transformer inside it, which was too wicked for my small AE setup. Hence had to start researching for alternative visual displays also, that's when a friend in the Uk pointed me to these;

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-AODIN-M9-Mini-DLP-Smart-Projector-with-Touch-Keys-16G-32G-Memory-HD-Proyector-Beamer/32807438473

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Intelligent-phone-android4-4-wifi-bluetooth-projector-build-in-battery-pre-install-KODI-NETFLIX-YOUTUBE-FACEBOOK/32552278671

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Quad-core-ARM-Cortex-A7-bluetooth-Android-4-4-wifi-Portable-Smart-led-pico-handheld/32515891884

You could also look them up on Amazon to compare prices.

I must say that I cannot quantify the joy and fulfilment I've had with myself since last month when my one arrived. Is it the portability of it, or the sound when paired with a Boss Bluetooth sound bar, or the sheer ingenuity, or the fact that it's got inbuilt battery that can last another 2hrs off power watching anything on it.

I know you could ask about having to have your living room turned dark just to watch tv, well, I didn't do sciences, so I can't really do justice to the latest technological components employed to make these, but I'm going to refer you to YouTube; search for "Using projectors as Tv" and you can download as many reviews on there as possible, there are a handful of reviews by MindSeed Tv and other Youtubers on projectors.. And no, you dont need a projector screen, just project straight to your clean wall.

Regards.

P.s; also take note of the info in below attached image.



pls can i get a review from u abt ur experience? iv been trying to get a good projector at a good deal but useable with small light
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Barezzi(m): 8:41pm On Aug 23, 2017
GeorgeD1:
all,
i spent the past two weeks testing out my new midnite solar classic 150 cc and now
i'm ready to give the lowdown. while i was at it, i also put the midnite head to head
with the morningstar. a few surprises and not a few mehs as you would expect.
watch out for my review.
Tonight?
I'm about buying the midnite classic, abeg post the review sharp sharp.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by babaegun(m): 8:58pm On Aug 23, 2017
GeorgeD1:
all,
i spent the past two weeks testing out my new midnite solar classic 150 cc and now i'm ready to give the lowdown. while i was at it, i also put the midnite head to head with the morningstar. a few surprises and not a few mehs as you would expect. watch out for my review.


Been waiting for this....oya post it. smiley
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 8:24am On Aug 24, 2017
Oga George. Pleeaaaseeee post the review ASAP. I have been a diehard MorningStar fan for 5 years. Only managed to break one so far grin

If anyone can convert me to another CC it would be you - I am very particular about the solar charging performance not so much the logging/monitoring & other bells & whistles

GeorgeD1:
all,
i spent the past two weeks testing out my new midnite solar classic 150 cc and now
i'm ready to give the lowdown. while i was at it, i also put the midnite head to head
with the morningstar. a few surprises and not a few mehs as you would expect.
watch out for my review.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 8:33am On Aug 24, 2017
NiyiOmoIyunade:
Oga George. Pleeaaaseeee post the review ASAP. I have been a diehard MorningStar fan for 5 years. Only managed to break one so far grin

If anyone can convert me to another CC it would be you - I am very particular about the solar charging performance not so much the logging/monitoring & other bells & whistles


I am adding Reliability and Durability!

Cheers

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by JohnKester: 10:27am On Aug 24, 2017
@Gurus in the house and users of Trojan L16 batteries.

I have 16 pieces of Trojan L16 batteries, which I have been using for almost two years. I am completely offgrid. I am little concerned that the setpoint (#6 Settings) I am using to charge the batteries using Morningstar 150V 60A controller, may not be charging the batteries adequately. Although this matches the settings recommended by Trojan, but I have my reservations about that and I wonder if the setpoint (#7 Settings) which is designed by Morningstar for specifically for L16 batteries may be more suitable.

What is your take on this? Kindly share your experiences with the batteries generally, and the settings you have found that charge the batteries most adequately.

Cheers
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 12:49pm On Aug 24, 2017
GeorgeD1:
all,
i spent the past two weeks testing out my new midnite solar classic 150 cc and now
i'm ready to give the lowdown. while i was at it, i also put the midnite head to head
with the morningstar. a few surprises and not a few mehs as you would expect.
watch out for my review.

I've tried many and currently have 3 MPPT. I have to admit I'm partial to Midnite. I even have their Kid and Brat charge controllers coming in next week (needed for a DIY project).

JohnKester:
@Gurus in the house and users of Trojan L16 batteries.
I have 16 pieces of Trojan L16 batteries, which I have been using for almost two years. I am completely offgrid. I am little concerned that the setpoint (#6 Settings) I am using to charge the batteries using Morningstar 150V 60A controller, may not be charging the batteries adequately. Although this matches the settings recommended by Trojan, but I have my reservations about that and I wonder if the setpoint (#7 Settings) which is designed by Morningstar for specifically for L16 batteries may be more suitable.

What is your take on this? Kindly share your experiences with the batteries generally, and the settings you have found that charge the batteries most adequately.

Cheers

Flexibility is a good reason to choose Midnite. Not just voltages but numerous other parameters. It has programmable logic ouput (AUX1 and AUX2) ports too. If you have the WizBang Jr. module, you're in RE-heaven I'll let GeorgeD1 do the honours.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 1:30pm On Aug 24, 2017
Can anyone supply me with this 10 units of this (at a good price)? It's a 20A 12/24V PWM charge controller.

I need this specific make.

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 8:39pm On Aug 24, 2017
Saipro:
Can anyone supply me with this 10 units of this (at a good price)? It's a 20A 12/24V PWM charge controller.

I need this specific make.

Hello Bro, the 20a pwm isn't a rare item.. It simply depends on your budget ! I will send you pics of the spec I have .
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 11:39pm On Aug 24, 2017
all,
as promised last night, i will attempt to do a review of my new midnite solar classic 150 cc.
but first things first. here are the installation pictures.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 11:41pm On Aug 24, 2017
out of the box, here comes the knight in shinning armor!

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by GeorgeD1(m): 11:43pm On Aug 24, 2017
preparing to install:

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