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Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 7:38am On Jul 14, 2017 |
kikake:Who said landmass is never a criteria to create local government or states? Is it illegal? Which international or national law forbids it? Dont you realize that every country creates entities according to the peculiarities inherent in its polity? Moreover,cant you see that states in nigeria are created based on population etc? Why using only russia? What do we share in common with them? |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 7:45am On Jul 14, 2017 |
walexbiz:Sir,dont be smart by half or contradict yourself.you accepted that some deserts are populated so dont recant.its not only due to environmental factors that people settle anywhere.i have reeled out several desert nations that are heavily populated.several areas of the north are more assessible and friendlier than some southern parts.the north is not as arid as you think if not they wont culrivate most of our cash and food crops |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Chukazu: 7:48am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Now this is what real restructuring should address. The reason why Kebbi state would present under age voters during election and include citizens from Niger Republic during census is because of what they gain from our imbalance monthly federal allocations In the same vain the Yoruba can add neighboring citizens of Benin Republic and Togo to their population and the Ijaws can add neighboring "Mami water*" from the seas, e no concern mua Now imagine the same Kebbi state would unashamedly register a "paltry" 200* students for a more important thing as Jamb examination and that tells you the value system When we deemphasis on federal allocations a lot of these imbalances would be corrected and this is what real restructuring should be 4 Likes |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by asha80(m): 7:50am On Jul 14, 2017 |
senatordave1:i dont think you understand igbo migratory patterns 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by iKnowevents(m): 7:52am On Jul 14, 2017 |
20CRATES: You people and chestbeating, every opportunity, every issue must be twisted for air-bloated boasts. The whole of South-East can be contained in Oyo? Why not the Whole of South-East being the size of Lagos, the one of the smallest state in the federation? Discussion sine intelligence. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by es144000: 7:57am On Jul 14, 2017 |
There is already a solution ;make it compulsory within a period for every Nigerian to be registered with the NIMC and the population will be known. There will be no manipulation. India with a population of over 1b registered all her citizens in 5 years using biometrics including iris scan. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Chukazu: 8:02am On Jul 14, 2017 |
joyandfaith: I don't think the issue bothers on population, the problem is a system that focuses on revenue sharing rather than revenue generation If the "cash cow" oil revenues dries up, those who created states up and down would be forced to marge several states into one, because they are simply not economically viable and we have seen that with the current price fluctuations in crude oil as states are struggling to pay salaries.. So imagine what happens if the oil dries up As far as population is concerned, there factors you can't wish away.. Like religion, culture and and society.. Eg: 1.how many Igbo men still marry more than one wife? 2.How early does and average Igbo men get married? But sincerely you can agree that those scenarios are still very much practical in the North and South West, they can still marry multiple wives and have multiple children because culture and traditions allows it, but it's almost alien in the South East For goodness sake, I don't care who is more populous than me, it doesn't make me less of a person. Just have a system that is equitable for all.. And the Northerners can marry five wives and bear multiple children, it doesn't bother me 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 8:05am On Jul 14, 2017 |
asha80:Please dont misunderstand me not arguing ibo population and migration.but let me add that being ubiquitous and conspicuous doesnt make one the most numerous ethnicity if not the jews and the israelites would be the most numerous groups.meanwhile,i think that the ibos are the 2nd largest tribe in the country |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by asha80(m): 8:17am On Jul 14, 2017 |
senatordave1:i was referring to your thought about no way population of a group would be more outside their hometowns than in their hometowns except the Jews..i can bet you population of ozubulu people you were using as argument would be more outside ozubulu if you combine the ones living in lagos,kano,ph and abuja alone..migratory patterns of igbos tend towards more economic buoyant centers so abagworo was right in what he said..heck even if it is onitsha or aba a native of these places would not think twice to migrate to somewhere less economically vibrant if his pocket is going to get bigger than remaining in onitsha or aba. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by murmee: 8:17am On Jul 14, 2017 |
ONYEUTALI:They got it from Britain which has been their Ally and supporter from the beginning of Nigeria's independence! |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Nobody: 8:22am On Jul 14, 2017 |
I was a supervisor during the 2006 census in Zamfara state,Gummi LGA.What I saw with my eyes really opened my eyes to understand the kind of people Northerners are: liars,greedy,dishonest and absolutely hopeless without oil money. Local government areas are like grave yards until whenever they hear that allocation has been distributed,they start rushing like bees to suck up the mony without shame. In my area of supervision,they forced me to inflate the actual figure by 3 and I refused and they had to replace me with someone else.They went as far as creating figures with all their finger prints so as to manipulate and inflate their population.The nomads would move from place to place and kept on getting enumerated. The South is truely more populated than the North in all ramification and they are the reason for Nigeria's backwardness because they tend to shy away from development. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Kfed4ril(m): 8:25am On Jul 14, 2017 |
EazyMoh: Bro I get you but the Nigerian map is a political map. You been educated please explain to me how benue state should be a northern state. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by joyandfaith: 8:29am On Jul 14, 2017 |
senatordave1:am not a woman,pls. these immigrants even from Niger, Mali etc are also in South. you will think they are hausas. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Kfed4ril(m): 8:32am On Jul 14, 2017 |
senatordave1: I disagree with you on the last part( ethnicity) |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by davidif: 8:39am On Jul 14, 2017 |
nyben4eva: Where you able to read that research paper I posted in the front page? |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Sonoyom(m): 8:40am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Ok |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Chukazu: 8:41am On Jul 14, 2017 |
iKnowevents: Very apt!.. Ama click the follow button |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Amberon11: 8:41am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Google maps will cure your own ignorance. I won't even engage you any further. EazyMoh: |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by joyandfaith: 8:42am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Chukazu: I agree to some extent I do not believe in Government voodoo figures. the point of discussion is that can we use land mass and birth rates to determine population size without actual census? No. other factors need to be considered. can real census ever be conducted in Nigeria? No. do we population of this country? No. which region has larger population size? nobody knows. what is way forward? national database. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Amberon11: 8:44am On Jul 14, 2017 |
I was actually referring to the core north and not the middle belt. I don't consider the middle belt to be in the north just as most middle beltans don't consider themselves northerners. senatordave1: 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Nobody: 8:49am On Jul 14, 2017 |
davidif: No,what's it about? |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by Chukazu: 8:58am On Jul 14, 2017 |
senatordave1: What you posited(some) is another fallacy we have to deal with, most of those states you mentioned are Not North, states like KWARA, PLATEAU, NASARAWA, ABUJA, AND KOGI are middle belt, but Gowon succeeded in looping them to the north through his " divide and rule " coup and that is one of the issues the article mentioned So when elections and census come we call them as North, but when it's time for real responsibility and accountability, we refer to them as middle belt 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by davidif: 9:15am On Jul 14, 2017 |
nyben4eva: The problems with the 2006 census. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by redsun(m): 9:19am On Jul 14, 2017 |
You need to enter an average Nigerian government office to see how information are kept in 21st century digital age. It still look like something from the dark age or rather not age of human development,with dusty files lying all over the available dusty surfaces,holes on the dusty floors,and obviously no electricity. And if you are unfortunate to want to use the toilet,you will literally step into a dungeon with no electricity, no tissue paper,no antibacterial soap and obviously no water. A country without a data base can not conduct accurate population census. Even a blind man will know that arid and sparsely inhabited north can be more populated than fertile and densely inhabited south. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by princemidon(m): 9:41am On Jul 14, 2017 |
davidif:
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Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by NafeesaAA(f): 9:51am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Pre independence census result of Nigeria and guess what? The North is more populated 2 Likes
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Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 9:57am On Jul 14, 2017 |
nyben4eva:Same manipulations occur down south.the average northerner is much more honest and truthful than a southerner.try doing business with them.same way we manipulate election results nationwde is how census is also manipulated. 1 Like |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 9:58am On Jul 14, 2017 |
nyben4eva:Same manipulations occur down south.the average northerner is much more honest and truthful than a southerner.try doing business with them.same way we manipulate election results nationwde is how census is also manipulated. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by senatordave1(m): 10:03am On Jul 14, 2017 |
Kfed4ril:Why? Its a common fact that out of the over 300 ethnicities,most are in the north.the north east contain over 100 tribes.adamawa state has over 70.they are less than 100 tribes in the south.i can point them out if u wish.please,dont try to counter till you confirm the above assertions. |
Re: Why Nobody Knows The Population Of Nigeria - The Economist by MAYOWAAK: 10:17am On Jul 14, 2017 |
redsun: I was at the so called National Library in Abuja yesterday. There was no electricity, library users were fanning themselves, some of them used the torch on their phones to provide illumination.The books on the shelf were not only torn but antiquated. I doubt if this country can be still be salvaged. 1 Like |
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