Fadiga24:


Dem dey write drug dealer for head?

Stop talking nonsense abeg.

Ipob, shut da hell up

is this news, which church in nigeria investigates source of income.

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Guess u must have laughed ur heart out already since the Catholic Church is a big joke

Some non Catholics are probably hypocritically shaking their heads in disgust.The truth is that most churches are guilty of collecting money from whatever source;Catholic, Anglican, Christ embassy et all,Same attitude.

EponOjuku:


The age of Methuselah has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon. The fact that the Catholic Church is old doesn't mean it's infallible.

If age were a determinant, Prostitution is older than the Catholic Church, has been in existence for ages, has more patrons than the Catholic Church.

Yet, this doesn't make prostitution right.

The truth is that the Catholic Church goofed big time on this one and the Bishop just made a complete fool of himself.

The Pope usually issues statements when Churches are attacked across the world. Why has he failed to comment on this?

Just as was done in Ahiara Diocese of Mbaise, our brethren across the Niger in Nnewi Diocese have embarrassed the Holy Father once again.

Your ignorance stinks, be enlightened before you open your mouth to spew trash.

ProfEinstein:

Your ignorance stinks, be enlightened before you open your mouth to spew trash.

You're mistaking me for your father.

BISHOP AND REVEREND FERVANTLY PREACH AGAINST EVIL MONIES

AdoraAmadi:
Following the attack St Phillips Catholic Church in Ozubulu has been subjected to after it was alleged that last Sunday's massacre in the church was a business deal gone wrong between two drug lords, one of whom had donated a building to the church, Bishop of Nnewi Diocese, Most Rev Hilary Odili Okeke, has explained why the church does not investigate the source of income of those who give it offerings and donations.

Bishop Hillary Okeke said;

"If you get the information that the person is making his money through a dubious way in criminality, then you know what to do. It is not just a question of anybody who brings money or offers anything to the church, you go to the police and ask them to investigate this man’s source of wealth before you accept it. It is not done. If you do it, then even in the church we should not be accepting any money because evil people can come to church and give. It is God who knows if the person is giving the money from criminal or immoral source. God knows everybody and will reward the person accordingly. If you know that the person is a criminal that is when you now tell him, my man go and change.”he said

He also lashed out at some parishioners who have called for his resignation following the attack.

“They themselves will resign first. If they want me to resign, let them resign first. Let them resign. People just open their mouth and begin to say what they like and you should not listen to all that people say. If people who know everything will come out and bring any criminality upon the bishop, bishop will take action, the church will take action. Not that someone opens his mouth to say whatever he likes. They are free to say whatever they want to say.”

http://www.lailasblog.com/dont-investigate-income-make-donations-bishop-nnewi-rev-okeke/

Lalasticlala

Money must be made

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Says who? you are a useless nonentity

Afam4eva:
The man has a point.

Sure, he's right. What they're not doing is preaching strongly against bad people and telling them God won't bless them.

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

What's ur problem? let's begin from there

EponOjuku:


The age of Methuselah has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon. The fact that the Catholic Church is old doesn't mean it's infallible.

If age were a determinant, Prostitution is older than the Catholic Church, has been in existence for ages, has more patrons than the Catholic Church.

Yet, this doesn't make prostitution right.

The truth is that the Catholic Church goofed big time on this one and the Bishop just made a complete fool of himself.

The Pope usually issues statements when Churches are attacked across the world. Why has he failed to comment on this?

Just as was done in Ahiara Diocese of Mbaise, our brethren across the Niger in Nnewi Diocese have embarrassed the Holy Father once again.

Goofed? How?
Since when did the church became ICPC or EFCC that is saddled with the responsibility of investigating and fishing out corrupt or unwholesome citizens. Of course you know that any attempt to do so will be largely based on speculations and perceptions which is not tenderable before the law or you think the church can afford to put structures in place to convict or even investigate members without being made to face libel charges at the court of law. Find out the budget of those agencies responsible for such investigations and tell me which church will be able match the huge funds invested therein

The church owes the society prayers that the corrupt bad eggs turn a new leaf and teachings that's will facilitate such repentance.
Shalom

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

How is it a huge joke please? And which church do you attend?

TINALETC3:
Oga Bishop, itz nt necessary 4 u 2 go out making enquiry abt d source of income donated, it's go na b difficult, 4 instance, sumone who stays over seas wl b difficult to verify. Al u need to do is preach against it, if Ur source of income is 4rm prostitute, robbery, kidnapping etc, "dnt gv it 2 d church",, even God wl bear u witness if dey disobey ur preaching.
Bt in a situation whereby, sumone wants to single_handedly build d church or renovate it, haba, Oga Bishop dat one 2much na, u gat to investigate abeg

It person no come give, una go say he too stingy: he no dey help the work of God.. Person go come give in abundance: una go being gossip his or her source.. Na waoo... Nothing person go do human being no go talk.

Those telling Buhari to resign should learn from this

ordinary bishop can't resign

Bet they want Buhari to resign

power is intoxicating

many of you are once Class captains and Senior prefects back in your schools...
How would you feel when they tell you to resign?

Morals : Resignation is a personal decision not for some group of peoples to force you to do so...

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Ur life is a joke,mumu

ProfEinstein:
I beg to disagree with my lord bishop, if someone with a questionable source of wealth comes to donate hugely to the church , the onus lies on the church to do a thorough background check on the individual before accepting such Greek gifts. The church should serve as the epicenter of morality and should not out of greed and love for money be in a haste to collect gifts from individuals with questionable source of wealth. This ozubulu incident should be an eye opener for the church .

I agreed with you.

Most of our clergymen these days are after money. Some will even know that your money is from a questionable source, yet will still collect it.

What baffles me most is that guidelines on how to deal with such cases were all written down in Canon Law, Vatican I & II, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Nicene, and post-Nicene and other Early Christians writings yet they choose to be doing otherwise. Love of money!

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Satan has excreted on this ones head

EponOjuku:


You're mistaking me for your father.

Onuku

nuelsylves:


I agreed with you.

Most of our clergymen these days are after money. Some will even know that your money is from a questionable source, yet will still collect it.

What baffles me most is that guidelines on how to deal with such cases were all written down in Canon Law, Vatican I & II, Ante-Nicene Fathers, Nicene, and post-Nicene and other Early Christians writings yet they choose to be doing otherwise. Love of money!

Love of money my brother and to imagine that the bishop is a prof emeritus of canon law makes it more absurd

Neddstark:
If all churches in the East are to adopt a policy of collecting money from only legitimate worshippers, many of them will close down. To them money is first. Kidnapping, drugs, yahoo is none of their business. Just make some money.

what is legitimate money? if we start collecting or waiting for legitimate money the will not be a kobo in the church.because 99% of money in the church is not legitimate

hedonistic:
I don't understand all this stupid noise and claptrap about investigating people's wealth. We have numerous "prominent" idiots in the public space who don't need any investigation because we all know that their wealth was illegally or illicitly acquired. Yet we celebrate them. Who has asked questions about Bola Tinubu's wealth? Or about Folorunsho Alakija's Wealth? Or Theophilus Danjuma? Or even the guy who calls himself the Lagos State Police Commissioner, Fatai whatever, who is a mere career policeman, but yet is wealthy enough to finance his daughter's education in the United States and then sponsor her wedding in the same country - ferrying loads of guests abroad (all expense paid) for the jamboree... A civil servant that earns a pittance as salary!

Who has "investigated" the wealth of these kinds of characters? Nobody! Because someone has a prestigious sounding occupation, the daft Nigerian society assumes that he or she must be legit, even if his lawful earnings fall far short of his lifestyle. Oh, he is a retired police commissioner, so that's why he owns a three star star hotel and is a very wealthy man. Oh, he is a former permanent secretary, so don't wonder how come he is a billionaire. Oh he is a banker, worked in this or that so-called establishment, so he is/was "gainfully employed" enough to own assets in multi millions and billions. On salary, allowances and entitlements of how much exactly? Who has asked questions about the disparity between occupational income and wealth for these kinds of characters?

Yet you have the audacity to question the income of totally self-declared, self-employed, and self-made entrepreneurs who refuse to be held down by Nigerian society's artificial shackles constructed to ensure mass immiseration, and are making a way for themselves, all by themselves - without ever having been arrested for a felony.

The hypocrisy in Nigeria stinks to high heavens.

Very good point.

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

religion is the joke.

Ignorance is not an excuse!!!!

SEE THIS:http://successsecrets01..com.ng/2017/08/weekly-energizerconsequences-of-dodging.html
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The quote for today's weekly energizer comes from Bob Proctor in his personal development program called The winner's choice: 12 power principles for winning the mind game.

As part of the introduction for the second power principle called responsibility, Bob Proctor reminded us that:
WE MIGHT EASILY DODGE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE WILL NEVER DODGE THE CONSEQUENCES OF DODGING OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
This quote of Bob Proctor is very apt for our consideration as we begin this new week. While it might seem exhilarating after an ephemeral analysis that we are able to dodge our responsibility, the truth is that taking responsibility is where our freedom actually lies. When we take responsibility, we put ourselves in a situation where we call the shots in our own lives despite the external circumstances.

If we let ourselves off the hook and play the blame game by passing the buck, the truth is that our lives will remain whatever the person we have passed the buck to makes of it. Who can design a better life for us than ourselves? I will suggest we take responsibility for everything in our lives today so that we can enjoy the rewards sooner or later.

This analysis is correct both for individuals, families, religious organizations, corporations or communities. As the weekly energizers are not meant to be long, I will use the trending issue of the OZUBULU MASSACRE OR OZUBULU MASS KILLING to illustrate how this concept of responsibility affects organizations and communities.

Before I do the analysis, let me clearly state that I condemn the Ozubulu massacre in strongest terms. Such act is barbaric and even demonic. The mere thought of such depravity exudes utter disrespect for the sanctity of human life that will make the devil cringe. My heart goes out to all those who lost loved ones and I pray that the soul of all the faithfuls departed rest in peace! Speedy recovery I wish all those who are hospitalized.

And now for some reality 101.
I was listening to the news this morning when they were doing the news paper headline reviews. Some persons called in condemning the police and the state government for being too quick to allege that the heinous crime was perpetrated by Drug barons who are natives of Ozubulu. According to the majority of these callers, the rushed allegation smacks of a cover up. They preferred to be told that this dastard act was committed by either boko haram or the Fulani herdsmen. So much for religion and ethnicity.

[b]The truth is that the church and the community suffered in the Ozubulu massacre because they dodged their responsibility of correcting and standing against what is wrong #ItTakesAVillage. The church had the greatest responsibility and yet it floundered. Maybe that is why it was used as the stage for the Ozubulu massacre. The society now celebrates evil provided it comes with money. Recently, a flamboyant affluent young man whose source of wealth remains officially unknown was being analyzed. You need to see the amount of people saying things like "I DONT CARE IF HE DRINKS BABY BLOOD", "THOSE QUESTIONING HIS SOURCE OF WEALTH SHOULD SHUT UP ABEG", "MONEY IS KING AND LORD". ETC. I will not bore you much with more examples because most of us are already familiar with the drill. You can see just two of such threads here: EXAMPLE THREAD ONE and EXAMPLE THREAD TWO

It is this same attitude that has permeated the society and eaten deep into our moral fabric even the church. The church has refused responsibility to act as a correcting agent. It honors the highest tither and the highest donor. They get the front row seat and make the laws. Even the clergy becomes subservient if he is not so affluent but if he measures up, they become best friends. What do you expect from the congregation that looks up to the church? The church shy away from the responsibility of reproving those going astray but rather eulogize them so as to continue benefiting from their generosity. Little wonder that it cannot dodge the consequences of heaping great reproach on itself and on God's name. The church can now be a 'justifiable' theatre of political, occultic and drug wars because its benefactors are politicians, drug lords, and highly placed occultists. Little wonder that the church suffers dire consequences. Asides the painful loss of lives, you can see for yourself the magnitude of mockery the church received in the comments here: CHURCH MOCKERY OVER THE OZUBULU MASSACRE

While I am aware that warring factions sometimes kill parents who did not support their kids in their evil ways, it is also true that very few parents stand up against children whose evil ways have yielded pecuniary gains. Even while it may not be so glaring, these parents, because they have dodged their responsibility cannot dodge the consequences. For them, Lucky Dube's lyrics in reap what you sow are immortal. I have reproduced it below from AZ Lyrics:

"Reap What You Sow"

We hear you crying
So bitterly
Trying to get people to help you ye ye
But nobody will
Your son was brutalizing people everytime.
But you said nothing
Now it's the time to pay the price
It's time to pay ye ye ye ye

[Chorus:]
You gonna reap just what you sow [x4]

Coming back home
With stolen things
Instead of telling him
How wrong he was
You told him how clever he was
People coming out of burning houses
It's your son Driving stolen cars every time
It's your son,
But you said nothing
But now he's turning against you

[Chorus:]
You gonna reap just what you sow [x3]

Everybody knows
No jail can keep him
'Cause you rubbing shoulders with the law
But now it's time to pay the price wo... woh

[Chorus: till fade]
You gonna reap just what you sow

As we conclude the weekly energizer for this week, take this lesson with you:
WE MIGHT EASILY DODGE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE WILL NEVER DODGE THE CONSEQUENCES OF DODGING OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
Also remember that until parents, churches, etc reclaim their responsibility of speaking out against evil without fear or favour, they can never dodge the consequences of their laxity! Rip to those massacred in ozubulu and may God grant those they left behind the fortitude to bear the loss. Have a blessed week.

TINALETC3:
Oga Bishop, itz nt necessary 4 u 2 go out making enquiry abt d source of income donated, it's go na b difficult, 4 instance, sumone who stays over seas wl b difficult to verify. Al u need to do is preach against it, if Ur source of income is 4rm prostitute, robbery, kidnapping etc, "dnt gv it 2 d church",, even God wl bear u witness if dey disobey ur preaching.
Bt in a situation whereby, sumone wants to single_handedly build d church or renovate it, haba, Oga Bishop dat one 2much na, u gat to investigate abeg

u have said the truth

"That is when you tell him, man go and change". This implies that still, the money wont be rejected.
Men of God have to set deliberate standards in dealing with mammon. Its no fiction. They can be sensitive to pick people's problems, causes of issues, the HS moving but cant sense evil intentions when it has to do with money.

Karlman:
MONEY IS EVERYTHING IN BLACK MAN'S WORLD

yes ma brother you have said it all, is a very greedy race..

Chai GOD has entirely left us, the church has been thrown to the dogs and evil now reigns supreme in the church,its very clear. look at what a bishop is saying arrogantly, after the massacare of innocent poor people in a bedeviled catholic church,a ruthless drug baron influences even a bishop with blood stained money ,catholic church is at its worst stage and is falling apart since this new pope took power,the death of john paul the second was a disaster, and the resignation of benedict finished it all...

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Perhaps not as big as your wealth chasing church. A criminal built a church for the catholic church and people come in to worship. A criminal donates money to your church and your pastor buys limousine, private jet etc.

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

To the best of my knowledge this is the most foolish post I've seen by you on nairaland

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

U are an idiot

rheether:
The catholic church is a huge joke.

Just like your life I guess