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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:17am On Aug 18, 2017
BELOVE! GOD DID NOT COME FROM SOMEWHERE. GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN, BEFORE HE DECIDED TO CREATE THINGS..
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by akintom(m): 10:57am On Aug 18, 2017
adepeter2027:

Hahn, akintom, hopefulLandlord, catfishbilly, edieced, frank317

OP has admitted his self inflicted foolishness, and there's nothing anyone can do, in a case of consciously chosen delusion. Other than to watch the show of idiocy with disgust.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by Toks2008(m): 11:46am On Aug 18, 2017
princecharles100:
If you don't believe in God,,, have you ever asked yourself how do you come to be existing,,,,,,, your topic don't make any sense to me but to laugh,,,, Admin,,,, can you please remove this post and put it in the Jokes Section

The intellectual capacity to comprehend is indeed a luxury only very few people pocess..
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by MrPresident1: 11:55am On Aug 18, 2017
Una go see GOD next week grin, the only sentence that will be on everyone's tongue will be "Oh GOD! Oh GOD!! Oh GOD!!!"
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 12:07pm On Aug 18, 2017
For 4000 years men have been in some sense trying to discover/find God. He decides to show up and you still don't believe He is the one.

Just has you believe you were born the day you were and the name your parents call you is your name.

Wait,. first try proving you were born on your birthday before thinking of proving how God came to be or if there is God


adepeter2027,Hahn, akintom, hopefulLandlord, catfishbilly, edieced, frank317,princecharles100, Amberon11, CAPSLOCKED
Proudgorgeousga, demsid





















Oh and when your done give yourself a slap on the face. It might just wake you up
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 12:12pm On Aug 18, 2017
OtemAtum:


What if you are a part of God and you don't know it? What if God is actually the sum of everything and there is no God in isolation?
You+me+Op+solar systems+galaxies+air+the gods+....+everything=God.

In what you have said, there is some truth.
A lie is just an incomplete truth that usually leads you to an endless cycle of questions.

God of everywhere, all in all, filling all things

And

God is above all, for their is none like Him

We don't make up God, God makes us up

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 12:38pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


In what you have said, there is some truth.
A lie is just an incomplete truth that usually leads you to an endless cycle of questions.

God of everywhere, all in all, filling all things

And

God is above all, for their is none like Him

We don't make up God, God makes us up

Anyhow you want to put it, but all I know is that everything is a part of God. God is us.

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by LordKO(m): 1:07pm On Aug 18, 2017
Hmm! Even though I'm irreligious, but I'm spiritual. And I know that every human being is spiritual too, because presence of subconscious makes every homo sapiens a spiritual being.

With regards to the caption of the thread, which is opposite of the thread content, if God/creator doesn't make sense to anyone, it's obviously from the prism the person is seeing him. Such a person should redefined his concept of God, on his own by putting religion and all the so called holy books aside - because any unassuming analytical but non insightful mind, would sure take the stance of atheists, after practicing for sometime any form of religion and reading the so called holy books (words of God) and experiencing real life firsthand. To achieve this feat, such a person have to consciously take himself to the default state of a day old child but a witty one.

There's God, he's just and he lives in everyone. He gave everyone all that one need to exist independent of his minute interventions. He neither expect anyone's prayers nor praises. To do good towards others is to reverence him.

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 1:37pm On Aug 18, 2017
OtemAtum:


Anyhow you want to put it, but all I know is that everything is a part of God. God is us.

An ink is part of a page doesn't make it the page, so saying God is us, is reversing an order that isn't only not proper but illogical
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 1:38pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


An ink is part of a page doesn't make it the page, so saying God is us, is reversing an order that isn't only not proper but illogical


We are God. We are not an ink in a page.
BTW, what do you have to say about the genealogy of Otem in the other thread?

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 2:03pm On Aug 18, 2017
OtemAtum:


We are God. We are not an ink in a page.
BTW, what do you have to say about the genealogy of Otem in the other thread?

Tried speed reading but you it's much and while speed reading to cover i'll miss details that I could question

And if I don't read it properly the questions would be baseless

1 thing is that your genealogy isn't viable from any other source which begs a lot of question has to its genuinity
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 2:36pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Tried speed reading but you it's much and while speed reading to cover i'll miss details that I could question

And if I don't read it properly the questions would be baseless

1 thing is that your genealogy isn't viable from any other source which begs a lot of question has to its genuinity
where else can you verify a genealogy which began from the period of the hominids? And when Moses was writing his own genealogy more than 3000 years back, who else in his period verified it? The Genealogy of Otem can be wrong only if my ancestors in their afterlives tell me lies.

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 3:56pm On Aug 18, 2017
OtemAtum:
where else can you verify a genealogy which began from the period of the hominids? And when Moses was writing his own genealogy more than 3000 years back, who else in his period verified it? The Genealogy of Otem can be wrong only if my ancestors in their afterlives tell me lies.

You do know the Egyptians had ancient libraries and records
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by Xiadnat: 4:30pm On Aug 18, 2017
Yea... God doesnt make any "sense".

The word "sense" implies the human sight, touch, smell, mental faculty etcc....

All human senses still limited and constrained within confines of our humanity....


Imagine trying to understand a being outside confines of human senses.


Its infinitely impossible. Still frustrating albeit.

We only comprehend what this being has allowed us to know in the realm of natural and (spiritual) world in science and religion.

Atheists (and everyone in between) rejects this notion of God being outside our senses.

Theists (and everone in between) have accepted and its a matter of which religion appeals and sooths more or attempts to offer explanation for our lack of understanding and for why God doesnt make sense. If you cant beat the system (God), join it.



And toks!! At risk of sounding like an uber feminist, but in the same token if God not making sense, God is not a HE, SHE or IT. God just is. But yea, great insightful post.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by CAPSLOCKED: 4:51pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:




For 4000 years men have been in some sense trying to discover/find God. He decides to show up and you still don't believe He is the one.


Just has you believe you were born the day you were and the name your parents call you is your name.

Wait,. first try proving you were born on your birthday before thinking of proving how God came to be or if there is God







SHOWED HIMSELF TO WHOM?

I HATE TO JUMP ON SUCH STATEMENTS BUT YOU MENTIONED ME, EITHER YOU WANT MY POINT OF VIEW OR IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE MY DISBELIEF IN "FAIRYTALES" AND DEMONS.



BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
IF THERE WAS A GOD, THEN
- I'M NOT SURE HE'S THE SAME PERSON WHO INSPIRED THE AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE / QURAN.
- I'M NOT SURE HE'S ALIVE.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 4:58pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:







SHOWED HIMSELF TO WHOM?

I HATE TO JUMP ON SUCH STATEMENTS BUT YOU MENTIONED ME, EITHER YOU WANT MY POINT OF VIEW OR IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO RIDICULE MY DISBELIEF IN "FAIRYTALES" AND DEMONS.



BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
IF THERE WAS A GOD, THEN
- I'M NOT SURE HE'S THE SAME PERSON WHO INSPIRED THE AUTHORS OF THE BIBLE / QURAN.
- I'M NOT SURE HE'S ALIVE.

He revealed Himself to the those in need, to be saved from this dying world of sin and soon He will reveal Himself to the whole world, both those that belief and those that don't, all eyes shall see Him

Definitely not an attempt to ridicule you

God has all things under his control

Explain your believes, aliens, etc
Do you lack imagination, what do you call imagination. Have you never had a dream in your life or even an imagination
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by CAPSLOCKED: 5:08pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


God has all things under his control





SAY THAT TO

-THE STARVING KIDS OF AFRICA.

-TO THE INNOCENT BABIES BORN WITH HIV AND MANY TERRIBLE MEDICAL CONDITIONS, TO POOR PARENTS WHO PRAYED TO GET THEM ONLY TO WATCH THEM DIE SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY, BEFORE THEIR FIRST BIRTHDAY.


- TO THE HUNDREDS WHO DIED IN THE MUDSLIDE YESTERDAY CLOSE TO FREETOWN.

MAY THEY REST WELL.

Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by CAPSLOCKED: 5:12pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


He revealed Himself to the those in need, to be saved from this dying world of sin and soon He will reveal Himself to the whole world, both those that belief and those that don't, all eyes shall see Him.




THAT WILL BE THE BEST PART, BROTHER... AND I HOPE TO SEE HIM IN THIS LIFE CUZ I DOUBT I'UD LIKE TO MEET HIM LATER.





BUT LET ME ASK YOU.. DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE CHRISTIAN BECAUSE OF GEOGRAPHY?


SERIOUSLY ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS SURELY IS A WASTE OF TUITION FEES, AND FRESH OXYGEN. cheesy

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by peacesamuel94(m): 5:26pm On Aug 18, 2017
Belief in God is logical, that's why anytime we try to take away the God factor in explaining the origin of the universe, it always ends in confusion.

We might bask in the temporary euphoria that atheistic ideologies have to offer, because they tell you that you own your life and can do whatever you want with with it, and that you are a product of a biochemical accident.

But truth be told, all that atheism has to offer is hopelessness, dejection, and emptiness, you keep going in circles until you embrace the fact that there's a reason for life and acknowledge the existence of the brain behind creation who is no one else but God.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 5:32pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:





THAT WILL BE THE BEST PART, BROTHER... AND I HOPE TO SEE HIM IN THIS LIFE CUZ I DOUBT I'UD LIKE TO MEET HIM LATER.





BUT LET ME ASK YOU.. DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE CHRISTIAN BECAUSE OF GEOGRAPHY?


SERIOUSLY ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS SURELY IS A WASTE OF TUITION FEES, AND FRESH OXYGEN. cheesy

Actually no, but geography did help, my family background also did help.

It helped to make me frustrated and angry with enough reason to question a lot of things that drove me to seek the truth and not just swallow what am told
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by CAPSLOCKED: 5:35pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:


Actually no, but geography did help, my family background also did help.

It helped to make me frustrated and angry with enough reason to question a lot of things that drove me to seek the truth and not just swallow what am told




SO DID YOU FIND THIS "TRUTH" ?
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 6:07pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:





SAY THAT TO

-THE STARVING KIDS OF AFRICA.

-TO THE INNOCENT BABIES BORN WITH HIV AND MANY TERRIBLE MEDICAL CONDITIONS, TO POOR PARENTS WHO PRAYED TO GET THEM ONLY TO WATCH THEM DIE SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY, BEFORE THEIR FIRST BIRTHDAY.


- TO THE HUNDREDS WHO DIED IN THE MUDSLIDE YESTERDAY CLOSE TO FREETOWN.

MAY THEY REST WELL.

Rest where? And who are the they?

Thought you ain't superstition

Am sure some people here also have burial rites for their dead

Dead what, higher class evolved animals who died likes chickens without hope of seeing them

but that's not my belief it's just self insulting to atheist to disbelief superstitions yet practice is

Or you'll burial rites is some new age scientific method of disposing 'forever' dead humans


Your first inference, you don't preach the gospel to the dead

The gospel is for all, poor, rich, sick, healthy, dying
It's about hope in a hopeless world, to give peace and joy like the world and it's pleasures will never give.

The gospel teachings us to help and love those around

Not lust that we call love when we give all attention to those who are beautiful, rich and poweful

Even to those who are wealthy in earthly treasures and healthy to live above greed and help the poor arrange them by improving their livelihoods providing jobs for them to earn a living and proper security.

To those poor, God heals, He provides and we endure and wait on Him and even though death comes we have resurrection life in us to wake up in a new body not this body that goes back to dust. A new life with no sickness, pain or hurt

This is the hope that helps all grow in love, the hope that every hopeless soul needs to end the thrive, the war, the conflict for this world and it's evil that men fight for will be destoryed


So yes, I'll tell them the truth like am telling you and you can choose to believe like the man who hanged beside Jesus

Jesus didn't bring him down, he took him up and the one who wanted to go down, did go down never to go up
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 6:10pm On Aug 18, 2017
CAPSLOCKED:





SO DID YOU FIND THIS "TRUTH" ?

Yes
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by CAPSLOCKED: 6:26pm On Aug 18, 2017
BlueAngel444:

Yes
PLEASE, CAN YOU LEAD ME TO IT? I ALSO WANT TO FIND IT.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by peacesamuel94(m): 6:32pm On Aug 18, 2017
Belief in God is logical, That's why trying to explain the origin of life and the universe while sidelining the God concept always ends in confusion.


We may bask in the temporary euphoria that atheistic ideologies have to offer, because they tell you that you alone dictates what happens in your life and can do whatever you want with it., that you are a byproduct of a biochemical accident, and have nothing but coincidence to thank for your Existence.


But truth be told, all that atheism has to offer is hopelessness, dejection, profound emptiness and a life where your perception of the universe and life in general becomes rooted in meaninglessness, Until you accept that there's a reason for life and acknowledge the existence of the brain behind creation who is no one else but
God.

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 12:08am On Aug 19, 2017
BlueAngel444:


You do know the Egyptians had ancient libraries and records
You do know the story of Moses is not in the ancient libraries and records of the Egyptians.

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Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 8:04am On Aug 19, 2017
OtemAtum:
You do know the story of Moses is not in the ancient libraries and records of the Egyptians.



The Egyptian historian Manetho (3rd century BCE), however, tells the story of an Egyptian priest named Osarsiph who led a group of lepers in rebellion against the wishes of the king who wanted them banished. Osarsiph, Manetho claims, rejected the polytheism of Egyptian religion in favor of a monotheistic understanding and changed his name to Moses meaning "child of..." and usually used in conjunction with a god's name (Ramesses would be Ra-Moses, son of Ra, for example). Osarsiph would have attached no god's name to his own, it would seem, since he believed himself a son of a living god who had no name human beings could - or should - utter.

Remember that Moses was the adopted son of the daughter of Pharaoh, Hatshepsut, who was a co-ruler over Egypt with her step-son / nephew Thutmose III, who became the sole ruler of Egypt shortly after Moses fled to Midian. We know that Hatshepsut died within a year of Moses' departure.

Thutmose III apparently did something that only occurred one additional time in the span of Egyptian history. The Egyptian people viewed their pharaohs as being a god in the flesh. The temple of Hatshepsut lies along the Nile in the Diro Valley , just across from Karnak , where one can see what remains of Hatshepsut's figure. Thutmose III, who undoubtedly hated her, completely eradicated nearly all her monuments throughout Egypt . Only on one other occasion would Egyptian authorities eradicate the monuments of a previous pharaoh and erase his name wherever found.

Along with the eradication of the name of Hatshepsut in Egyptian records and monuments was another Egyptian official named Senmut who was very close to Hatshepsut. It seems that Senmut disappeared from Egyptian society shortly before the death of Hatshepsut. Is it possible that the person Senmut was Moses?

•  Another name for Moses was Hatshepsut Xnem Amen -  (offspring of Hatshepsut by the god Amen). Remember that Hatshepsut believed that Moses was a gift from an Egyptian God.

•  Senmut (Moses) is groomed to become pharaoh. He is the architect of Deir El Bahri, the mortuary temple of Hatshepsut .

•  Tomb No. 71 At Deir El Bahri intended for Moses (Senmut)

•  At Deir El Bahri, there is a wall which depicts the birth of the future heir to the throne, one scene shows a baby boy in the arms of Hatshepsut-the infant Moses!

•  Hatshepsut's royal wall paintings in her mortuary temple at Deir el Bahri were defaced, and her statues were destroyed, because of the hatred Thutmose III had for her and Moses.

•  Images of Senmut (Moses) also defaced by Thutmose III, the childhood rival of Moses.

Since your a fan of long texts and won't probably open Amy historical links. I thought I do you the favor

your not a historian . you make things up so you believe everyone does to, because your theories are built on fantasy doesn't mean the real world is built on such

Do you know why history is true, because you notice the differences and the changes consistent with man's behaviour and differences

all you say isn't the truth because you have no witness to prove, so. You belief religious people are fools and foolish enough to believe you because you said you met a demon you call god. Even in Job a fake friend said to him he had a vision and met a heaven being but when the Almighty God revealed himself, that friend was also rebuked
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 10:40am On Aug 19, 2017
BlueAngel444:




The Egyptian historian Manetho (3rd century BCE), however, tells the story of an Egyptian priest named Osarsiph who led a group of lepers in rebellion against the wishes of the king who wanted them banished. Osarsiph, Manetho claims, rejected the polytheism of Egyptian religion in favor of a monotheistic understanding and changed his name to Moses meaning "child of..." and usually used in conjunction with a god's name (Ramesses would be Ra-Moses, son of Ra, for example). Osarsiph would have attached no god's name to his own, it would seem, since he believed himself a son of a living god who had no name human beings could - or should - utter.

Remember that Moses was the adopted son of the daughter of Pharaoh, Hatshepsut, who was a co-ruler over Egypt with her step-son / nephew Thutmose III, who became the sole ruler of Egypt shortly after Moses fled to Midian. We know that Hatshepsut died within a year of Moses' departure.

Thutmose III apparently did something that only occurred one additional time in the span of Egyptian history. The Egyptian people viewed their pharaohs as being a god in the flesh. The temple of Hatshepsut lies along the Nile in the Diro Valley , just across from Karnak , where one can see what remains of Hatshepsut's figure. Thutmose III, who undoubtedly hated her, completely eradicated nearly all her monuments throughout Egypt . Only on one other occasion would Egyptian authorities eradicate the monuments of a previous pharaoh and erase his name wherever found.

Along with the eradication of the name of Hatshepsut in Egyptian records and monuments was another Egyptian official named Senmut who was very close to Hatshepsut. It seems that Senmut disappeared from Egyptian society shortly before the death of Hatshepsut. Is it possible that the person Senmut was Moses?

•  Another name for Moses was Hatshepsut Xnem Amen -  (offspring of Hatshepsut by the god Amen). Remember that Hatshepsut believed that Moses was a gift from an Egyptian God.

•  Senmut (Moses) is groomed to become pharaoh. He is the architect of Deir El Bahri, the mortuary temple of Hatshepsut .

•  Tomb No. 71 At Deir El Bahri intended for Moses (Senmut)

•  At Deir El Bahri, there is a wall which depicts the birth of the future heir to the throne, one scene shows a baby boy in the arms of Hatshepsut-the infant Moses!

•  Hatshepsut's royal wall paintings in her mortuary temple at Deir el Bahri were defaced, and her statues were destroyed, because of the hatred Thutmose III had for her and Moses.

•  Images of Senmut (Moses) also defaced by Thutmose III, the childhood rival of Moses.

Since your a fan of long texts and won't probably open Amy historical links. I thought I do you the favor

your not a historian . you make things up so you believe everyone does to, because your theories are built on fantasy doesn't mean the real world is built on such

Do you know why history is true, because you notice the differences and the changes consistent with man's behaviour and differences

all you say isn't the truth because you have no witness to prove, so. You belief religious people are fools and foolish enough to believe you because you said you met a demon you call god. Even in Job a fake friend said to him he had a vision and met a heaven being but when the Almighty God revealed himself, that friend was also rebuked

Who told you this strong lie like this? Lying scribes at work, hmm undecided

Now by ur story, you are already judged false. You said Manetho changed his name to Moses and it happened in the 3rd Century BCE, which is only like 300 years before Common Era, but the Moses the bible made us to believe actually existed in their book about 1000 years before common era. So this is to say Manetho of your story is not Moses of the bible.
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by BlueAngel444: 12:25pm On Aug 19, 2017
OtemAtum:


Who told you this strong lie like this? Lying scribes at work, hmm undecided

Now by ur story, you are already judged false. You said Manetho changed his name to Moses and it happened in the 3rd Century BCE, which is only like 300 years before Common Era, but the Moses the bible made us to believe actually existed in their book about 1000 years before common era. So this is to say Manetho of your story is not Moses of the bible.


Who is the you, you are referring to? undecided

You made up your own lie and quoted me


I was quoting an Egyptian historian that lived in the 3rd century
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by OtemAtum: 1:18pm On Aug 19, 2017
BlueAngel444:



Who is the you, you are referring to? undecided

You made up your own lie and quoted me


I was quoting an Egyptian historian that lived in the 3rd century

But you said he changed his name Moses, didn't you?
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by shadeyinka(m): 3:23pm On Aug 19, 2017
Toks2008:
Oh YES you read right; the existence of God and all there is about him does not make any sense and no matter how you try to explain anything about him,it will not make any sense.

It is very easy for people to blame atheists that they don't believe there is God and I laugh at the foolishness of the non-atheists .

How do you explain the fact that someone or some sought of spirit called GOD came from nowhere,
created the world and everything in it. Don't you think it is foolishness for anyone to believe this unfounded story?

Who is he?,where did he come from?, where did he get his power? why is he immortal?, why should I believe in him or worship him?....the questions are endless and because there are no logical answers to these questions,I have concluded that GOD does not make sense.

But you know what?, this is why I have personally made up my mind to believe he exists cos I read somewhere in the Christian bible that anyone who believes in him and in Jesus, will get to know him in a different world he created for those who believe to live forever after they leave this world and death is one fact i believe in but what happens after i die I do not know...


Come to think of it;what exactly will it cost me to believe in GOD?,absolutely nothing.

If i believe in him and discover he does not exist after I die,I have nothing to lose but if indeed he exists then I will have so much to gain cos i will see him and also have that opportunity to ask him many questions and some of the mysteries that make him GOD will be revealed to me.

I strongly believe that as long as we try to reason him with our human minds,He will never make sense to us cos as they say,he is the unfathomable GOD and I am curious to know why he is who he is
.

◄ 1 Corinthians 1:25
"For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength."

◄ Revelation 22:4
"They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads."

The fact that you could exist out of nothing is the Prove you need. Do you think your existence makes any sense(out of nothing)?
Re: GOD Does Not Make Sense. by Toks2008(m): 9:25am On Aug 20, 2017
shadeyinka:


The fact that you could exist out of nothing is the Prove you need. Do you think your existence makes any sense(out of nothing)?

I actually thought I came from nowhere.

Lalasticlala I guess this is a great one.

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