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Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by erico2k2(m): 2:00pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco:So you don't know receiving money from proceeds of crime in itself is a criminal offence ? ? 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by akeenalee(m): 2:01pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ayamprecious: where is the sense in what he said. Use your brain or sleep wake up then read again. 2 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by LeanonGOD(m): 2:02pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Your story is not funny. If I defraud you of your life saving and I donate the money to an NGO - What Would You Do?. SMH. ecoeco: 3 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Nobody: 2:04pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ayamprecious: So you are indirectly saying l hav been speaking from my anus since?
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Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by mamachizzy(f): 2:04pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
As a church, I think they should return it since its fraud money. the house of the lord should not have it'd foundation built on fraud 3 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by fxskye: 2:06pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco: This comment is typically a comprehension issue. Olodoooooo 4 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by faithscharms(f): 2:08pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Hmm but legally the church does not owe anything to the police or any other person cos it was a gift from another party so they are not obliged to pay back except for good morals sha |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by PierreDeFermat(m): 2:09pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Freeze ,where are you? |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Sheun001(m): 2:09pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Aplaudez:you better believe for your own good before you fall victim 2 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by vascey(m): 2:10pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco: Illiterates indeed...Yourmumudondo 3 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by wman(m): 2:16pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Look at the poorly written letter with grammatical errors from a professional lawyer. 100m for this economy? Men people are balling. 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by AceDomino(m): 2:16pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Was the church present with her and the said pastor when they were both striking out the deals between themselves? I guess she hasn't realised that her brain is working backward. |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by linearity: 2:21pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco: Yes, by law the church have to refund the money as the circumstances and the confession of the fraudsters clearly indicates that part of the money was used as donations to the church. The fraudsters even pleaded with the Pastor to refund the money to the rightful own. Even if the fraudster did not confess and did not plead for the return...if some 'dash' you money and that money was linked to a fraud, my brother, you will be charged as an accomplice, it is same as the police finding stolen goods on your person. I was expecting the church to maintain a higher standard above Nigeria criminal law...here, they are even trying to say that, they should be exempted from what is applicable criminally to the larger society. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by linearity: 2:24pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
AceDomino: The fraudsters who gave the money to the church and donated the buses was the one that pointed to church, the church is therefore criminally liable as an accomplice and should in the lest return the money. If myself or yourself swap places with the church in this saga, we will be cooling our feets off at kirikiri as accomplices and why should the church think they should be held to a lower standard? 4 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by linearity: 2:27pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
faithscharms: Not true, if any Nigerian swap places with the church, they will be in kirikiri by now. Majority of the people EFCC is prosecuting today, got their money as a way of gift. If someone gift you a stolen money or item, you are criminally liable and that is not me talking...it is the law! 4 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by IjeBos(m): 2:28pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
faithscharms: Forget the law for a sec, think of the legal and moral implications of this stance. Legally, what would stop any thief from just forming a church and donating all their illicit gains there? It would be a gift after all, right? And morally, how can a church that is flush with money knowingly refuse to give back money they know to be fraudulently obtained and donated. This is a Christian church (you would think) after all. US Law: [url]http://www.wkpz.com/content/files/Giving%20It%20Back%20-%20Returning%20Donations.pdf[/url] From the article "When one steals property or money the ownership does not change. The thief cannot give away something he does not own. So, if the thief gives the church stolen property or money, then ownership remains with the original owner and the church is obligated to give it to the rightful owner." 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by patola080(m): 2:28pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Aplaudez:so u re still d type dat believe in pastor abi 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Wallade(m): 2:32pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
fpeter: My sentiments exactly! 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by linearity: 2:33pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Charly68: Re read, the claim...the very fraudsters who gave the money to the church and bought them buses pointed to the church and pleaded with the church Pastor to refund the money. What I did not see is a denial from the church...rather a concession or is it a confession from the local church Pastor clearly admitting not to only accepting the money, but sending same to the headquarters, and a bid to retrieve the money from headquarters and give it to the rightful own is met with a sternly looking lawyered brick wall to keep away. 3 Likes |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Grace001: 2:36pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Destined2win: And who takes the legitimate money wired to church as seed? If not still pastor, until church stop being money focused and stop preaching on prosperity but rather salvation and repentance, issues like this will continue to happen. 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by nemynely(m): 2:36pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Please did anyone read the "letter of petition"? So badly constructed with loads of typos! |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by enemyofprogress: 2:42pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
It aff enter voice mail |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Ajicold(f): 2:43pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Flexherbal:love?? Abi Making Heaven |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by Greenthumb(m): 2:45pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Flexherbal: How's the church to be blamed for this though? |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by DazzlingAngel: 2:46pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
What nonsense, so everyone go must go church go claim their loss. It called in Account bad debt |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by linearity: 2:46pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
nemynely: You have to go beyond the letter and examine the substance of the case. The quality of the letter just showed that, the lady went to quack or substandard lawyers and there many legit but quack lawyers around, it does not diminish or deny her claims. 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by nickxtra(m): 2:49pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Just look at a grammatically deficient letter written by a supposed "a learned" person - a lawyer! |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by DIKEnaWAR: 2:50pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco: Bro, you are the illiterate here. An arrogant and ignorant one! Have you heard of accessory after the fact before? Part of the proceeds of crime was wired straight to RCCG. That makes them complicit and liable to refund. 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by nickxtra(m): 2:51pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
rapcy: Just read through this grammatically deficient letter a supposed "learned" person - a lawyer wrote! How did such person got called to Bar? |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by mfm04622: 2:54pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
ecoeco: If you get a gift from proceeds of fraud, which a donation to a church is (gift), the beneficiary is expected to return the gift. This is different from when proceed of fraud is used to pay for goods or services. 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by CoCoLav(f): 2:54pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
I am more interested in how she got the 100 million 1 Like |
Re: Lady Accuses RCCG Of Refusing To Return 24.4m Proceeds Of Fraud by mfm04622: 2:56pm On Aug 23, 2017 |
Greenthumb: The church is blamed for not returning the part of fraudulent money with them. Simple 1 Like |
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