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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by smart111(m): 5:06pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
That my classmate represent Brother represent 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 5:12pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
smart111: I see you bro. |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by chukxie(m): 5:14pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: More grease to your elbows. Good night from here. 2 Likes |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by soleexx(m): 5:18pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: Actually yea it sure need a security clearance and some other processing I believe I cannot tackle alone... makes me feel its a waste of a talent |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 5:23pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
The guy is another fraud, or appropriately another Emegweali in the making. 1. Why is it that none of the claimed patents are online? I have searched everywhere just to read the patents, no links etc. 2. How often do undergraduates write patents? 3. Who are his research collaborators? How many patents are written by a sole individual? And how likely is it for an undergraduate without publications to solely write a patent? 4. If he is indeed a student in China, why is he filing patents in Nigeria? Why not China? What qualifies as patent in Nigeria might be classified as utter rubbish in China. 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 5:36pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo: 1)How many Nigerian patents are online? 2) How often do undergraduate write patents? Is patent a research study you write anyhow? Patents comes after inventions. The first one was sealed in 2016. 3) you need no publication to write a patent. 4) SAU aerospace engineering student China. Filing for a patent in my Nigeria is a choice. I am Nigerian and only acquired knowledge in China. Are unverified claims accepted as patents? We are talking about patents with tested prototypes. |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nationalman: 5:50pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo:i smell jealousy. when the boy they seriously study where you dey. Its an hon-our for Nigeria.especially the radar absorbing stuff. that's the tech powering stealth planes 2 Likes |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 5:51pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 6:07pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: What's the essence of patents? What differentiates a patent from a trade secret? You can't claim to have a patent that's not accessible, and as such can't be scrutinized. Here is a link to search patent repository. Why is yours not turning up? Where is your so-called patent? https://patents.google.com/ tdayof: But inventions don't come out of thin air, there is a body of works that leads to an invention, which has to be explained in a patent. You can't just say: I have invented this or that. You have to demonstrate or describe what you did that led to that, and demonstrate it's reproducible. tdayof: True. But as a student who is two years into an undergraduate program, you also don't have enough experience to SOLELY write a readable patent that's acceptable to peers in your field. Patents are not written in pedestrian English, a grasp of technical jargons peculiar to your field is necessary, which by your level of education you couldn't have sufficient mastery. So who are your co-authors? tdayof:Laughable. Nigerian professors who can't get their works published in reputable journals also publish in Ife Journal of History, Ibadan Journal of Medical Sciences, or Nsuka Journal of African History or whatever. The world is not deceived, and as such, such political professors are never taken seriously. I would advise you focus on getting a good degree and not get sucked up in self adulation of having three "patents" because you don't have any. 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 6:11pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nationalman: 6:13pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo:Invent your own stuff.and lets see you on one of the so called reputable journals.leave the young chap alone.people like you are the problem we have.after looking back at your productive years and see you might not really have achieved you now become stumbling block to others.many of the so called patent we have in this country are just rusting and wasting away. what we ought to be concern is how to encourage the young man on how he can use his invention to better his country ,through employment tech transfer etc 2 Likes |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 6:23pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
https://patents.stackexchange.com/questions/22/how-long-does-it-take-a-patent-application-to-appear-in-the-uspto-database Patents takes up to 18 months to be uploaded online. http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/08/03/the-myth-of-the-18-month-delay-in-publishing-patent-applications/id=60185/ 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 6:26pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Nationalman: No. Truth is I don't even have time to write comments on Nairaland as I would have loved to do. But what he is doing is very dangerous, and if we leave people like him unchallenged, we imperil the future of genuine geniuses that might come out of Nigeria. We should stop promoting mediocrity with such nonsense byline as "let's encourage Nigerians, the young ones etc". You can't claim to be a superstar, and then play victim when you are asked to live up to expectations. How can you claim three patents when none of it is accessible to anyone? Isn't it the same thing going on in our universities where a professor would claim tons of publication published in a remote journal not accessible to peers around the world? How has that helped us as a nation? Why can't we compete with the rest of the world? 2 Likes |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 6:33pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo: Journal:a newspaper or magazine that deals with a particular subject or professional activity. Patent:a government authority or licence conferring a right or title for a set period, especially the sole right to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention. I own no journal neither do I have any publication on any. Do those professors own any inventions? Common sense says: patents publications are being updated into database after up to 18 months. Is a patent sealed last year August up to 18 months? You have access to the internet but and still lack knowledge? 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 6:36pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: You can file a patent and if pending, you would be issued a number that can be used to track its progress. The whole essence of delay is to verify claims and to give others time to dispute the originality or genuineness of your claims. Besides, you claimed to have three patents, not that three patents are pending? right? Since your patents are granted anyway, why can't you upload a pdf file somewhere for the world to read? Don't you want the world to know about your INVENTIONS? 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 6:38pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 6:44pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: Lol. If this is your understanding of what publications is, then why am I even having this chat with you? 1. In a publication process, you can't claim to have published what is under review be it a journal article or a patent. You claimed to have three patents which implied you had been granted the patents. So where can we read the patents? You seem to confuse a seal with an actual patent, is like a student who confuses a certificate with an academic transcript. A seal is one thing, the real patent which contains the description of an invention is another. Where can we find that? 2. A review process can take as long as the process entails, but once a patent is granted, it becomes a public property such that it should be accessible to public. You should at least have a copy of YOUR own patent. Why can't you share that with us? |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 6:45pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo: http://www.airforce.mil.ng/post-naf_receives_patent_right_certificate_for_local_production_of_hydraulic_diaphragm_on_mi_35p_helicopter Please provide me with a copy of the Nigerian Air Force patent which has been granted by NOTAP. 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by smart111(m): 7:14pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by smart111(m): 7:16pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo:people like you (dream killer) are the once that make nigeria to be where it is today. going round tell me that they don't have the IQ to active anything just because you yourself have not active anything |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 7:24pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: The NAF, in 2011, had gone into research and development on local production of the hydraulic diaphragm in order to address the increasing difficulties faced in procuring the items from abroad. More so, there was the need to reduce the downtime in maintaining the Mi-35P helicopter fleet because of their critical roles in the counter insurgency and counter terrorism operations in the North East. By 2012, the 3-man team, comprising Air Cdre Imafidor, MWO Moses and Sgt Bawa, recorded its initial breakthrough when it produced the first prototype. This however did not last beyond 4 flying hours after installation on the aircraft. With further research, the team was able to produce other prototypes, and eventually recorded its major breakthrough with the 5th prototype produced in 2013. This lasts more than 150 hours on the aircraft, even more than the one produced by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM). It also has the additional advantage of dual application on both the Mi-35P and Mi-24V helicopters unlike the one produced by the OEM which only works on one helicopter type. For a guy who claimed to have three patents, your understanding of patent is even far from being rudimentary, you basically have no freaking idea. 1. You first claimed no research was necessary to have an invention. Did you read the link at all? At least, the Nigerian military explained what they did to arrive at their conclusion. And the link is a news item celebrating their achievement, it's NOT the patent. The actual patent would contain the description of the invention and the prototypes including works that demonstrate its superior capability over others. The patent is not attached to the news item. How is that freaking difficult to understand for a guy with three patents? Plus, it was a team work of veterans which is diametrically different from yours which you invented (as claimed) all alone even without a degree. 2. Here is an example for you. Google has a patent or was granted a patent for Method for node ranking in a linked database. But here is a link to the actual google patent describing the claims, the background to the invention, and its superiority over other search methods. This actual patent is NOT just a seal, it's a WRITTEN document which anyone from anywhere from around the world can download and read: https://www.google.com/patents/US6285999 here is an excerpts from google patent:
3. You as an INVENTOR ( ), regardless of jurisdiction where you file your claims would have WRITTEN a document explaining what you did, the body of works/research, the background and provide justification for your claims' originality or superiority over known methods. That document is the ACTUAL patent, not the seal. Now as an inventor with three patents, you would or should have written three separate documents of that nature. Where is ONE of such? At least, if no one has it, you should at least have a copy. Where is a copy of ONE of your claimed patent? |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 7:26pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
smart111: Have you read his patents? |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 7:35pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by tdayof(m): 7:37pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 8:01pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
tdayof: Dignity? tdayof, I don't have links to Nigerian Air force Patent or patents. Please, also show me where I promised you such a link, our genius. But does that excuse your claims? You may not know, when you are asked to substantiate your claims, it's not a popularity contest, it's an integrity test. You CAN'T claim you don't have copies of your OWN patents. So where is a copy? The Yoruba have a saying that if a thief comes to your house or farm, and you don't act in time, he would turn around and call you a thief. Can you imagine a guy who claims to have three patents which no one has read calling another person a fraud? 1. You are two years into an undergraduate program, basically no degree. No research experience. 2. You are supposedly 18 years 3. You have three patents 4. You wrote the patents, all alone without collaborators or co-authors 5. You made your inventions without research Where on earth is that even believable? And when you are asked to substantiate your claims with even, just ONE copy of your patents you turned cold. it's the one who called you out a fraud, you are not the fraud. Oga genius, where is a copy of your patent? Why are you hiding your INVENTIONS from the world? Where is even the abstract to one of them? |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Nobody: 8:20pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
I am 18 years old with 3 patents in technical fields, and I made my inventions without any iota of research, yes just from thin air. Even though I had no degree, I wrote the patents all by myself, no co-authors, only that you can't see my patents because I am not seeking publicity. Who am I? A Nigerian genius. Nonsense. Frauds everywhere! |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Matthew4sure(m): 8:46pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Oduaa agbe kiloku let us dance .NCAN welcome it is afonja
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Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by eyinjuege: 8:54pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Na wah o Some people know book o |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by sshalom(m): 8:58pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
Iamlamide: You nailed it! 1 Like |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by Ibime(m): 9:39pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
OYO4sure: You forgot to mention he studies in China |
Re: Fasasi Tosin Oladayo: Demfas Aerosystems Founder & An Inventor With Four Patents by delpee(f): 10:44pm On Sep 19, 2017 |
bayooooooo: Maybe I'm missing something but I see no reason why the inventors efforts/success is difficult to appreciate. He's shown enough evidence and comes across (to me) as a humble, diligent and focused young man. There's really no need to run him down. Anyone who has superior information should provide it. Besides he says patents are published after 18 months - not too long to wait. Till then all I can say is kudos to this young man who is blazing a trail in the techie world. If we have many more people trying to succeed as entrepreneurs, the employment rate will increase and it will have a positive impact on the economy. Nigeria will also rely less on foreigners for technological development. Very well done Tosin. More grease to your elbows. May God grant you more wisdom and all that you need to be a world renowned inventor. Keep up the good spirit. Avoid distractions. God bless you much more. |
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