Except if marginalization means different things to different people, I want to believe we are all in this together.

I'm a northerner who has traversed the whole of southern Nigeria; of course, this gives me an edge and authority to say a thing or two from experience.

There's a living poverty in the north( what else could make someone leave his family up north and go down south to be a shoe-shiner or mai-guard just to earn meagre change?). Development are concentrated at the city centres. Other places really do not have anything to show.

You'll all agree with me that the crisis in the north-east has its roots in poverty and years of neglect( Davido or well-fed kids can't accept to be suicide bombers).


I served in the east, and for a whole year , I stayed there without visiting home. You can see why I'm angry at Nnamdi Kanu for making that very peaceful, serene and beautiful Umuahia a hotbed of his activity.

Ibo towns are developed and are well planned out; they build their villages(no matter how small it's , you will see one or two very big houses planted in the bush).

Just like every other places in Nigeria , they have their challenges in terms of infrastructural decay, but that is not to say they're the worst hit( I've seen it all in the north).

The little our governors get , they put into use...despite corruption that we have in the system. But you have the governors not doing anything(excluding Chime, Obiano, Ngige and Umahi), and they in turn instigate some of their followers to come online and tag all of us parasites living in the north where their money is used in developing( where the development sef?).


You want 100% resource control, but there's nothing to show for the one you've gotten. You gave them little, they siphoned and you want more for them(governors) . Just Negodu!


Marginalization means if people from the SE are not in key positions of government. But , Jonathan had many of them in key positions and they were heavily represented.

Why hasn't this huge representation in GEJ's government translated to all the roads in the east being fixed and save them the energy they use in blaming Buhari for everything that happens in that region?

My question is: which region is not marginalized in Nigeria?

North

North.

One love.

ONYEUTALI:
North is not marginalised.

Other regions suffer from both Federal marginalisation and state negligence. But the north only suffer from state negligence. My village spent over 200,000,000 million Niara last year maintaining the Federal road that traversed it (Ihiala - Orlu road in Imo). Such can never happen in a northern city not to mention their villages. (Get it deep inside your skull: a FEDERAL ROAD. responsibility of the Federal government.)
In my town, we have 5 Secondary schools and about 15 nursery/nursery schools. Among them all, only one nursery/primary school (built by Rocha's in 2014) is the government educational institution in my town. 2 secondary schools were built by the Town and the rest are private owned.
98% of the public schools in the North were built by the federal government.
The north is not marginalised.
But it'll be over soon. We must restructure.

Another emotional response to a logical questions.

North has the lowest education, economical and health indices.

The roads in the north are good and strong because the have good land. Roads are cheaper to build in the north.

Stop giving us history the things your village people did for their own benefit.

@op your attempt at emotional blackmail and distortion of facts will not work...Lets assume the north is 'marginalised' and are keeping quiet...Must everyone keep quiet too and mope around helplessly because others are??...

If you lots decide to keep quiet in the face of injustice,Igbos will not...

Be that as it may,north is not marginaled in any way and has never been...They have the highest number of FG patronage in this country...the little developement there is Fg-induced in every indices while the reverse is the case for SE.

..Up untill recently,most developements in the SE are purely private efforts by individuals cos FG presence in every shape,size and form.is near zero...

.However iagree we have dead-beats as leaders in the SE

I'm sorry.

ONYEUTALI:


You didn't make sense here. Those things my village people did for their benefit, aren't they the responsibilities of the Federal government? The village did it because the Federal government neglected them, marginalisation.
Your village didn't do such because the Federal government did them for you. So take a chill.

I thought building and managing primary and secondary Education is the responsibility of state government.

Lolz...define marginalization first?

OK.

My brother e tire me oh. No region is marginalize just a story of people misgoverning themselves

ydass:
North

prove it, please.

Agreed, there is marginalization everywhere but that of the Igbo is state sponsored and well orchestrated.

WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA By Collins Onuegbu My friends who are not from the East of Nigeria where Igbos come from often ask me why there is so much anger in the East and among Igbos. Some wonder why, despite the famed Igbo” wealth’ and enterprise all over Nigeria, the people still complain that Nigeria is unfair to them. Some insinuate that the anger comes from the loss of the 2015 election by Jonathan who the Igbos heavily backed.

And why is it that the current generation of Igbos are so angry as to contemplate carrying arms against the country? With lots are following Nnamdi Kanu of IPOB with his secessionist message. Those not following may despise his antics and rhetoric but are sympathetic to his underlying message? And what is that message? That Igbos don’t feel wanted in Nigeria. That decades of official marginalization and discrimination should be stopped or they would be ready to take their chances in a new nation.

First, for those who think this is all about Jonathan and Buhari. It is not. Igbos were disappointed that Jonathan did not win. But those whose candidates lose elections lick their wounds. It is allowed. It happens when your candidate loses election. Why did the Igbos invest so much emotions in Jonathan, a non-Igbo Ijaw? It was more because of the fear of their experience in the past 50 years. Nigeria has placed an embargo on any Igbo man becoming Nigerian president. Jonathan was the next best thing. Other parts of Nigeria have supported their sons to the presidency. Some have bombed Nigeria into submission to get their son to Aso Rock. Igbos have little capacity to blackmail Nigeria to the presidency. They chose Jonathan as their “Igbo” . But that’s not to say that they are angry enough because he lost to contemplate going to war on his behalf. Jonathan was not really the model of a President you would go to war for. And his Ijaw people have accepted his loss. So?

Igbo anger has been building up in Nigeria since I was a kid in the 70s. As kids, we made choices in our school years based on the narrative of the Igbo place in Nigeria. We knew of the glass ceiling against Igbos before we were out of puberty. After the civil war, despite the “No winner, no vanquished” program, Nigeria placed glass ceilings and no-go areas for Igbos. The war reconstruction program was observed more in the breach. There was the “abandoned” property program that was introduced to drive a wedge between components of the former South-East Nigeria. While the country was too embarrassed to put the discrimination program down in an official gazette, it was there for anyone who cared to look. It was evident in the Igbo police officer who stayed in one position while less qualifies juniors progressed to become his bosses. It was evident when no Igbo qualified to become the Inspector General of Police, or leader any division in the armed forces. It was there when ‘ sensitive” or ‘lucrative “ positions were shared in Nigeria and Igbos were conspicuously absent. It was there when Igbos were only fit enough to be made Minister of Information until Obasanjo came to power. And even recently, it was there when Buhari appointed 47 people to man the critical roles in his government and no one from the South east was there. Any time there is a federal appointment in Nigeria, its usually the east that shouts. It was there from Buhari first term to his second term and anyone in-between.

The Igbo elite called it marginalization. Other Nigerians countered by saying no part of Nigeria was getting enough. Marginalization was universal. But they forgot something. The Igbo cry of marginalization was official policy. It was expected. It was programmed. And occasionally, key government officials let it slip that Igbos should not complain. After all, they fought a war with Nigeria. Talk about No Victor, No Vanquished. There was a Victor alright. And they were reminded of that at every turn. Every appointment. Every national project. Nigeria was only pretending. Igbos were licking their wounds and complaining and the rest of Nigeria was too busy to notice.

Go to the South-East today. Since the 70s and the oil boom. Nigeria has invested in commercial industries across the country. None has been sited in the South east. None. Refineries, Steel Plants, Cement Firms. Any Industry. The South East was systematically de-industrialized. Even when it was the best location for any industry, there was always a reason why it should not be sited there. What this means was that any Igbo man that wanted to work in a commercial federal establishment had to leave the east. Add this to the indigenization policy of the early 70s that pushed the Igbos out of private companies. It meant that international companies also avoided expansion into the south east. The Nigerian Breweries, the Dunlop and other such firms sited their plants outside the East and only set up distribution centers to sell in the region. This is one of the main reasons the exodus of Igbos from the zone accelerated after the war and continues to this day despite the hostility they face in certain parts of Nigeria. And why most became traders and commercial business men. Because access to organized work either in the government, government commercial institutions and even commercial institutions were limited.

The only industrial enterprise in the east are built by easterners; Nnewi, Aba, Onitsha. These are Igbo indigenous industrial cities.

This has been the practice since the end of the war.

In addition to this, the Federal Government has systematically made it difficult for Easterners to do commercial business even in the East. The Federal Roads in the East are some of the worst in Nigeria. The Eastern Sea ports have been made ineffective. It was a war to get the Enugu Airport upgraded to an International Airport. The former Finance Minister shed tears on the day the first International Flight landed in Enugu. Yes, Okonjo Iwealla cried! Recently, it was only the South East that was conspicuously missing in the New Railway Plan of the Federal Government. Nigeria has 6 regions. And one was missing in a national railway plan. Incidentally, Igbos who reside here are the most itinerant in the country and would benefit most from a national transport plan. Even our President changed the plan to include his village but a zone of the country was not included.

When you go to the east, despite the lack of federal presence, the presence of police all over the east tells a story. They mount road blocks and make it difficult to have commercial activity. Recently, Customs has joined. And lastly the army. It is an occupied territory. They extort money. They intimate. They recently have started killing.

Nigeria has made the east unlivable. Purposely. Carefully.

I am often in conversations where people accuse the east of being clannish. That while we are welcome in all parts of Nigeria, outsiders cannot come to the East. My question is: why would you come to the east? To do what? There is no business to do in the east. Nigeria has ensured that. Why would someone from the South West of Nigeria go to the East to invest? No one would prevent you. But it hardly makes commercial sense. Nigeria has ensured that. Those from the North are there in droves. Igbos love to celebrate with cows. And the cattlemen go there to sell their cattle. No one molests them. In my village and most villages in the East, they live unmolested. But those are the only people who can find commercial reason to be there!

So those who wonder why Igbos are angry, wonder no more. While most would not dare carry arms against Nigeria, don’t under estimate the level of disconnection and anger especially among the younger generation. Nigeria is made of nations that came together to form a country. No nation will like to be in perpetual servitude. That Nnamdi Kanu’s supporters starred down army tanks with sticks is a sign that the next generation will be ready to fight bare hands if necessary to stop Nigeria treating the Igbo nation as second-class citizens. There will be fiercer and angrier Kanus in our immediate future if Nigeria does not officially stop the “vanquished “program against the Igbos who fought the civil war. You cannot preach unity and indivisibility of the country on TV and all your actions point at discriminating against the components of the country. It is as dangerous as it is foolhardy. Let those who preach unity walk the talk and stop open discrimination of their countrymen. History has shown that you cannot decree peace. You cannot decree unity. You cannot force any group to belong to a country by force, it may work for a time. But never sustainable.

Nigeria has a lot to look forward to as a united country. It also has enough for the regions and nations that make up the country. Our diversity is a blessing. Our failure to reach our potential is caused mostly by the internal contradictions and the inability to build a fair country that can bring out the best out of her component regions. Those who shout most about loving Nigeria today are mostly those its current unfair structure favor. But Nigeria will continue being as strong as its weakest link. And the weak links are all there to see. The East is one of the weakest links. Until it stops being a weak link, Nigeria cannot truly make progress.

Truth is that every region and area in Nigeria is marginalised, except maybe Abuja and Lagos. Only people who aren't marginalised are the political elite.

ONYEUTALI:


You didn't make sense here. Those things my village people did for their benefit, aren't they the responsibilities of the Federal government? The village did it because the Federal government neglected them, marginalisation.
Your village didn't do such because the Federal government did them for you. So take a chill.

From the bolded statement, you make it sound like there are actually numerous schools in the northern villages; you make it sound as if the govt actually builds schools there. This is the same zone where you could travel an area the size of the entire Imo state without seeing a single school.

The fact is that, unlike in the south where community effort is used to build schools when govt fails, in the north, the govt doesnt build and the communities dont build schools for themselves too (cos they dont even value education as much as we do down south).

Like I said above, save for Abuja and Lagos, there's no area in Nigeria which isnt marginalised. Forget the songs you've been hearing for ages.

positivity can help us.

ONYEUTALI:
North is not marginalised.

Other regions suffer from both Federal marginalisation and state negligence.

But the north only suffer from state negligence. My village spent over 200,000,000 million Niara last year maintaining the Federal road that traversed it (Ihiala - Orlu road in Imo). Such can never happen in a northern city not to mention their villages. (Get it deep inside your skull: a FEDERAL ROAD. responsibility of the Federal government.)
In my town, we have 5 Secondary schools and about 15 nursery/nursery schools. Among them all, only one nursery/primary school (built by Rocha's in 2014) is the government educational institution in my town. 2 secondary schools were built by the Town and the rest are private owned.
98% of the public schools in the North were built by the federal government.
The north is not marginalised.
But it'll be over soon. We must restructure.

Going by your assertion, not is not marginalized, but other region regions suffer both federal and state marginalization. Ain't you giving a conflicting position?
Well, I'll appreciate if you speak for your region and not "others" to whip up emotional sentiment.

I need fact and figure. You fixed road in your community , and you think it can never happen in the north. That you even have 200, 000, 000 million on a road from your own coffer shows you ain't marginalized after all. We are talking of poverty, who would think of build road instead of building road users?

I live in an area you'd think should have everything, but we provide our own light , water , security(a gated community) , in fact, even most roads branching from the main inroad were constructed by the residents and the streetlights you have on this street were installed by individuals. Why are you sounding as if this only happens in your region?

Where in our constitution do we have federal roads and state roads? All we have is trunk A and trunk B. Which skull do you want me to sip that gibberish you want me to sip into? You remember what happened between the FG and mbadinuju then on ownership of road and, how a road was halfway constructed and was halted or destroyed, so to speak( I stand to be corrected), because of this line of argument.

Kaduna-brininGwari-Tegina-jeba-mokwa-ilorin road is a deathtrap. A collapsed of the only bridge along this route crippled alot of economic activities recently.

Kabba-ilorin

Markurdi-nasarawa

Benue-taraba

Otukpo-enugu
Markurdi-Ankpa
Maiduguri-Kano
Yola-jalingo
Gombe-yola
Zaria-funtua , etc, all are major "federal roads" in bad state in the north. Why sounding as if it's only in the east you have bad roads? Because of geology, our roads (the few that enjoy attention) usually lasts, and you don't blame us for what nature gave you.

Did you see the road shown to senators who visited benue state and were taken around by the governor?

98% of schools in the north is built by FG? This guy is misinformed and he believes every lies he's told , just like they believed GEJ built 300 almajiri schools in the north.

Do you expect FG to come and build pri. School in your village?

Smh

obailala:
Truth is that every region and area in Nigeria is marginalised, except maybe Abuja and Lagos. Only people who aren't marginalised are the political elite.

From the bolded statement, you make it sound like there are actually numerous schools in the northern villages; you make it sound as if the govt actually builds schools there. This is the same zone where you could travel an area the size of the entire Imo state without seeing a single school.

The fact is that, unlike in the south where community effort is used to build schools when govt fails, in the north, the govt doesnt build and the communities dont build schools for themselves too (cos they dont even value education as much as we do down south).

Like I said above, save for Abuja and Lagos, there's no area in Nigeria which isnt marginalised. Forget the songs you've been hearing for ages.

spot-on!

ONYEUTALI:


Thanks for admitting the truth.
The north is not marginalised. If the Federal government starts allocating Boko Haram to each state and your own state was left out, you won't complain of being marginalised. We complain about marginalisation when the amenity in discussion is desired and needed by the Community/State.
And you admitted the north don't have schools because the don't *value* education. In another word, they don't need education.
I don't expect them to complain if the Government refuse to build schools for them.
So no marginalisation here.

What sort of repulsive reasoning is this?... You come in public and dare to say a people don't deserve quality schools or an education (because they don't value it); you give this as a justification as to why you think they aren't also marginalised by the same government which you claim marginalises you. But you expect the rest of the world to give a damn about your own cries of marginalisation?... Once again, what sort of repulsive mentality is that?

Onyeutali, ha kwesiri iji utali ahu pia gbu gi

ONYEUTALI:



And Jonathan came doing it for your Northern States?

which and which ? Tell me the exact locations of those almajiri schools in the north. I live here and I don't know why I can't spot any of the 300 schools in the north.

babyfaceafrica:
Lolz...define marginalization first?

in the context of the SE?

ONYEUTALI:


You didn't make sense here. Those things my village people did for their benefit, aren't they the responsibilities of the Federal government? The village did it because the Federal government neglected them, marginalisation.
Your village didn't do such because the Federal government did them for you. So take a chill.

this is not only happening in your place. It happens every where in Nigeria.

Ngokafor:



@op your attempt at emotional blackmail and distortion of facts will not work...Lets assume the north is 'marginalised' and are keeping quiet...Must everyone keep quiet too and mope around helplessly because others are??...

If you lots decide to keep quiet in the face of injustice,Igbos will not...

Be that as it may,north is not marginaled in any way and has never been...They have the highest number of FG patronage in this country...the little developement there is Fg-induced in every indices while the reverse is the case for SE.

..Up untill recently,most developements in the SE are purely private efforts by individuals cos FG presence in every shape,size and form.is near zero...

.However iagree we have dead-beats as leaders in the SE

we are not saying you should keep, but must the shoe-shiner or northerners in the east should not be identified and asked to be killed because you think they're your problem, before your cry can be heard.

Lol

Mea culpa

ONYEUTALI:



I don't care what I type. As long as it doesn't go well with Buhari and his supporters. Achọghịm ịma.

Life does not start and end with Buhari's administration; Buhari would most likely not be president beyond 2019. SO you ought to watch your statements, else they return to bite you later.

OP,
Marginalization in Nigeria is ubiquitous.
1. The federation with the support of a few who are from every tribe connive to marginalise the Nigerian masses.
2. The masses by the aid of illiteracy and ignorance marginalise each other in support of those who oppress them.
However one can say that the greatest marginalized are those whose fight their fellow oppressed on any issue. But in a matter of time all the oppressed would wake up.

ONYEUTALI:



And Jonathan came doing it for your Northern States?

.

I thought you smart that why I quoted you. My bad

obailala:
Truth is that every region and area in Nigeria is marginalised, except maybe Abuja and Lagos. Only people who aren't marginalised are the political elite.

From the bolded statement, you make it sound like there are actually numerous schools in the northern villages; you make it sound as if the govt actually builds schools there. This is the same zone where you could travel an area the size of the entire Imo state without seeing a single school.

The fact is that, unlike in the south where community effort is used to build schools when govt fails, in the north, the govt doesnt build and the communities dont build schools for themselves too (cos they dont even value education as much as we do down south).

Like I said above, save for Abuja and Lagos, there's no area in Nigeria which isnt marginalised. Forget the songs you've been hearing for ages.

The explanation for the bold part is that the north isn't as populated as claimed. You build schools for humans not for large, barren expanses of land yet, official lies ensure that d North is counted as more populous with more states, LGAs and more representation at all levels.

They aren't interested in education, whose fault? Yet they succeed in dragging the entire country backwards by constantly lowering standards just to entice them to school. They aren't even expected to compete meritoriously with their counterparts that's why a Yobe child only needs to score 4 to get to secondary school while Anambra must score 139. Shouldn't there be government policies making it a criminal offences for children of school age not to be in school for instance? Their parents would then be forced to take it seriously too!

BALLOSKI:
we are not saying you should keep, but must the shoe-shiner or northerners in the east should not be identified and asked to be killed because you think they're your problem, before your cry can be heard.

Neither should the Easterner be threatened with unconstitutional eviction and confiscation of his property just because he is from the East and has a propensity to spread out to areas outside his place. He shouldn't be picked on because some people drew Mohammed caricature in Denmark or because someone lost election in 2011.

freeze001:


The explanation for the bold part is that the north isn't as populated as claimed. You build schools for humans not for large, barren expanses of land yet, official lies ensure that d North is counted as more populous with more states, LGAs and more representation at all levels.

They aren't interested in education, whose fault? Yet they succeed in dragging the entire country backwards by constantly lowering standards just to entice them to school. They aren't even expected to compete meritoriously with their counterparts that's why a Yobe child only needs to score 4 to get to secondary school while Anambra must score 139. Shouldn't there be government policies making it a criminal offences for children of school age not to be in school for instance? Their parents would then be forced to take it seriously too!

Well, all this isnt the point, the point I tried to make was in response to the statement of the dude I quoted. The same way the govt isn't building schools in SE communities, that's exactly the same way the same govt isn't building schools in the northern communities.

BALLOSKI:
I'm a northerner who has traversed the whole of southern Nigeria; of course, this gives me an edge and authority to say a thing or two from experience.

There's a living poverty in the north( what else could make someone leave his family up north and go down south to be a shoe-shiner or mai-guard just to earn meagre change?). Development are concentrated at the city centres. Other places really do not have anything to show.

You'll all agree with me that the crisis in the north-east has its roots in poverty and years of neglect( Davido or well-fed kids can't accept to be suicide bombers).


I served in the east, and for a whole year , I stayed there without visiting home. You can see why I'm angry at Nnamdi Kanu for making that very peaceful, serene and beautiful Umuahia a hotbed of his activity.

Ibo towns are developed and are well planned out; they build their villages(no matter how small it's , you will see one or two very big houses planted in the bush).

Just like every other places in Nigeria , they have their challenges in terms of infrastructural decay, but that is not to say they're the worst hit( I've seen it all in the north).

The little our governors get , they put into use...despite corruption that we have in the system. But you have the governors not doing anything(excluding Chime, Obiano, Ngige and Umahi), and they in turn instigate some of their followers to come online and tag all of us parasites living in the north where their money is used in developing( where the development sef?).


You want 100% resource control, but there's nothing to show for the one you've gotten. You gave them little, they siphoned and you want more for them(governors) . Just Negodu!


Marginalization means if people from the SE are not in key positions of government. But , Jonathan had many of them in key positions and they were heavily represented.

The marginalisation has a chain effect on corruption and the north is the main beneficiary of it.

freeze001:


The explanation for the bold part is that the north isn't as populated as claimed. You build schools for humans not for large, barren expanses of land yet, official lies ensure that d North is counted as more populous with more states, LGAs and more representation at all levels.

They aren't interested in education, whose fault? Yet they succeed in dragging the entire country backwards by constantly lowering standards just to entice them to school. They aren't even expected to compete meritoriously with their counterparts that's why a Yobe child only needs to score 4 to get to secondary school while Anambra must score 139. Shouldn't there be government policies making it a criminal offences for children of school age not to be in school for instance? Their parents would then be forced to take it seriously too!

Stop wasting precious time educating people who aren't ready to be educated.