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What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Olarababy(f): 9:25am On Sep 25, 2017
I have been hearing this word for quite some time in in Nigeria. And i notice its the Igbos its normaly used on i.e; igbos are being marginalized. Can someone explain to me the meaning of the word in respect to Nigeria
NB: am Igbo

Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by OjukwuWarBird: 9:27am On Sep 25, 2017
Olarababy:
I have been hearing this word for quite some time in in Nigeria. And i notice its the Igbos its normaly used on i.e; igbos are being marginalized. Can someone explain to me the meaning of the word in respect to Nigeria


Absence of federal presence in the region especially in key infrastructures like functional seaports that will help the people to reduce importation through Lagos ports

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 9:43am On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:



Absence of federal presence in the region especially in key infrastructures like functional seaports that will help the people to reduce importation through Lagos ports

Igbos are simply greedy....we are all marginalized by our elected leaders.

I remember a thread during Jonathans regime where Yoruba leaders complained about marginalization...Igbo nairalanders showed how vile and hateful they can be, jubilating all over the thread with very disgusting comments.

....fast forward to 2015, dey now turned to wailing wailers and marginalization was the only pathetic excuse for them to hold on to, so as to form IPOB and destabilize the incoming government.

OjukwuWarBird:



Absence of federal presence in the region especially in key infrastructures like functional seaports that will help the people to reduce importation through Lagos ports

How can a landlocked region possess a standard seaport? You can now see that attribute of greediness I mentioned earlier been displayed... Besides why didn't you all tell your beloved Jonathan to give u seaport... Na now your memory just reboot abi?

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by buchilino(m): 9:46am On Sep 25, 2017
WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA

My friends who are not from the Easvt of Nigeria where Igbos come from often ask me why there is so much anger in the East and among Igbos. Some wonder why, despite the famed Igbo” wealth’ and enterprise all over Nigeria, the people still complain that Nigeria is unfair to them. Some insinuate that the anger comes from the loss of the 2015 election by Jonathan who the Igbos heavily backed.

And why is it that the current generation of Igbos are so angry as to contemplate carrying arms against the country? With lots are following Nnamdi Kanu of IPOB with his secessionist message. Those not following may despise his antics and rhetoric but are sympathetic to his underlying message? And what is that message? That Igbos don’t feel wanted in Nigeria. That decades of official marginalization and discrimination should be stopped or they would be ready to take their chances in a new nation.

First, for those who think this is all about Jonathan and Buhari. It is not. Igbos were disappointed that Jonathan did not win. But those whose candidates lose elections lick their wounds. It is allowed. It happens when your candidate loses election. Why did the Igbos invest so much emotions in Jonathan, a non-Igbo Ijaw? It was more because of the fear of their experience in the past 50 years. Nigeria has placed an embargo on any Igbo man becoming Nigerian president. Jonathan was the next best thing. Other parts of Nigeria have supported their sons to the presidency. Some have bombed Nigeria into submission to get their son to Aso Rock. Igbos have little capacity to blackmail Nigeria to the presidency. They chose Jonathan as their “Igbo”. But that’s not to say that they are angry enough because he lost to contemplate going to war on his behalf. Jonathan was not really the model of a President you would go to war for. And his Ijaw people have accepted his loss. So?

Igbo anger has been building up in Nigeria since I was a kid in the 70s. As kids, we made choices in our school years based on the narrative of the Igbo place in Nigeria. We knew of the glass ceiling against Igbos before we were out of puberty. After the civil war, despite the “No winner, no vanquished” program, Nigeria placed glass ceilings and no-go areas for Igbos. The war reconstruction program was observed more in the breach. There was the “abandoned” property program that was introduced to drive a wedge between components of the former South-East Nigeria. While the country was too embarrassed to put the discrimination program down in an official gazette, it was there for anyone who cared to look. It was evident in the Igbo police officer who stayed in one position while less qualifies juniors progressed to become his bosses. It was evident when no Igbo qualified to become the Inspector General of Police, or leader any division in the armed forces. It was there when "sensitive" or "lucrative" positions were shared in Nigeria and Igbos were conspicuously absent. It was there when Igbos were only fit enough to be made Minister of Information until Obasanjo came to power. And even recently, it was there when Buhari appointed 47 people to man the critical roles in his government and no one from the South east was there. Any time there is a federal appointment in Nigeria, its usually the east that shouts. It was there from Buhari first term to his second term and anyone in-between.

The Igbo elite called it marginalization. Other Nigerians countered by saying no part of Nigeria was getting enough. Marginalization was universal. But they forgot something. The Igbo cry of marginalization was official policy. It was expected. It was programmed. And occasionally, key government officials let it slip that Igbos should not complain. After all, they fought a war with Nigeria. Talk about No Victor, No Vanquished. There was a Victor alright. And they were reminded of that at every turn. Every appointment. Every national project. Nigeria was only pretending. Igbos were licking their wounds and complaining and the rest of Nigeria was too busy to notice.

Go to the South-East today. Since the 70s and the oil boom. Nigeria has invested in commercial industries across the country. None has been sited in the South east. None. Refineries, Steel Plants, Cement Firms. Any Industry. The South East was systematically de-industrialized. Even when it was the best location for any industry, there was always a reason why it should not be sited there. What this means was that any Igbo man that wanted to work in a commercial federal establishment had to leave the east. Add this to the indigenization policy of the early 70s that pushed the Igbos out of private companies. It meant that international companies also avoided expansion into the south east. The Nigerian Breweries, the Dunlop and other such firms sited their plants outside the East and only set up distribution centers to sell in the region. This is one of the main reasons the exodus of Igbos from the zone accelerated after the war and continues to this day despite the hostility they face in certain parts of Nigeria. And why most became traders and commercial business men. Because access to organized work either in the government, government commercial institutions and even commercial institutions were limited.

The only industrial enterprise in the east are built by easterners; Nnewi, Aba, Onitsha. These are Igbo indigenous industrial cities.

This has been the practice since the end of the war.
In addition to this, the Federal Government has systematically made it difficult for Easterners to do commercial business even in the East. The Federal Roads in the East are some of the worst in Nigeria. The Eastern Sea ports have been made ineffective. It was a war to get the Enugu Airport upgraded to an International Airport. The former Finance Minister shed tears on the day the first International Flight landed in Enugu. Yes, Okonjo Iwealla cried! Recently, it was only the South East that was conspicuously missing in the New Railway Plan of the Federal Government. Nigeria has 6 regions. And one was missing in a national railway plan. Incidentally, Igbos who reside here are the most itinerant in the country and would benefit most from a national transport plan. Even our President changed the plan to include his village but a zone of the country was not included.

When you go to the east, despite the lack of federal presence, the presence of police all over the east tells a story. They mount road blocks and make it difficult to have commercial activity. Recently, Customs has joined. And lastly the army. It is an occupied territory. They extort money. They intimate. They recently have started killing.

Nigeria has made the east unlivable. Purposely. Carefully.

I am often in conversations where people accuse the east of being clannish. That while we are welcome in all parts of Nigeria, outsiders cannot come to the East. My question is: why would you come to the east? To do what? There is no business to do in the east. Nigeria has ensured that. Why would someone from the South West of Nigeria go to the East to invest? No one would prevent you. But it hardly makes commercial sense. Nigeria has ensured that. Those from the North are there in droves. Igbos love to celebrate with cows. And the cattlemen go there to sell their cattle. No one molests them. In my village and most villages in the East, they live unmolested. But those are the only people who can find commercial reason to be there!

So those who wonder why Igbos are angry, wonder no more. While most would not dare carry arms against Nigeria, don’t under estimate the level of disconnection and anger especially among the younger generation. Nigeria is made of nations that came together to form a country. No nation will like to be in perpetual servitude. That Nnamdi Kanu’s supporters starred down army tanks with sticks is a sign that the next generation will be ready to fight bare hands if necessary to stop Nigeria treating the Igbo nation as second-class citizens. There will be fiercer and angrier Kanus in our immediate future if Nigeria does not officially stop the “vanquished “program against the Igbos who fought the civil war. You cannot preach unity and indivisibility of the country on TV and all your actions point at discriminating against the components of the country. It is as dangerous as it is foolhardy. Let those who preach unity walk the talk and stop open discrimination of their countrymen. History has shown that you cannot decree peace. You cannot decree unity. You cannot force any group to belong to a country by force, it may work for a time. But never sustainable.
Nigeria has a lot to look forward to as a united country. It also has enough for the regions and nations that make up the country. Our diversity is a blessing. Our failure to reach our potential is caused mostly by the internal contradictions and the inability to build a fair country that can bring out the best out of her component regions. Those who shout most about loving Nigeria today are mostly those its current unfair structure favor. But Nigeria will continue being as strong as its weakest link. And the weak links are all there to see. The East is one of the weakest links. Until it stops being a weak link, Nigeria cannot truly make progress.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 10:14am On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:
WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA

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Whatever is being done to you guys in Nigeria today is simply karma cos u brought it upon yourselves cos of greed.

You executed the first bloody coup out of greed and envy and then another greedy Igbo, Ironsi unified the autonomous region under a central authority.

Yet another greedy azikwe made sure the secession clause was not included in our constitution because he wanted to be premier of the western region.... Theif....ole.

The most annoying part is your people will never own up to these atrocities cos u prefer blaming other people for your woes....maybe that's why karma has been very brutal and ruthless with your tribe.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by buchilino(m): 10:18am On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


Whatever is being done to you guys in Nigeria today is simply karma cos u brought it upon yourselves cos of greed.

You executed the first bloody coup out of greed and envy and then another greedy Igbo, Ironsi unified the autonomous region under a central authority.

Yet another greedy azikwe made sure the secession clause was removed in our constitution because he wanted to be premier of the western region.... Theif....ole.

The most annoying part is your people will never own up to these atrocities cos u prefer blaming other people for your woes....maybe that's why karma has been very brutal and ruthless with your tribe.

LIKE DEY SAID U CAN'T EAT UR CAKE N HAVE IT. MY POST WAS TO EDUCATE DOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WAT IGBOS MEAN BY MARGINALIZATION. BUT FOLKS LIKE U WILL NEVA LEARN. I REST MY CASE
Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by libertyhope2017: 10:28am On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:
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Igbos are simply greedy....we are all marginalized by our elected leaders.

I remember a thread during Jonathans regime where Yoruba leaders complained about marginalization...Igbo nairalanders showed how vile and hateful they can be, jubilating all over the thread with very disgusting comments.

....fast forward to 2015, dey now turned to wailing wailers and marginalization was the only pathetic excuse for them to hold on to, so as to form IPOB and destabilize the incoming government.



How can a landlocked region possess a standard seaport? You can now see that attribute of greediness... Besides why didn't you all tell your beloved Jonathan to give u seaport... Na now your memory just reboot abi?[/s]

Same person as the OP...deceiving his ewedu filled coneskull. Opened a thread with one moniker, then use another moniker to buttress his point. Dumb Afonja

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by attacker321: 10:28am On Sep 25, 2017
The man the lead the 1966 coup was from the Midwest region aided by a Yoruba officer_ Ademulegun yet is called an Igbo coup.

When it is time to apportion blame the Midwest(now SS) suddenly become Igbo's but when it concerns crude oil they quickly remind us that they are SS.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 10:29am On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:


LIKE DEY SAID U CAN'T EAT UR CAKE N HAVE IT. MY POST WAS TO EDUCATE DOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WAT IGBOS MEAN BY MARGINALIZATION. BUT FOLKS LIKE U WILL NEVA LEARN. I REST MY CASE

What is there to learn? Your post was a vague compilation of numerous copy and paste half truths.

It is too lengthy and bogus to be taken serious. We did summary in high school for a reason.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Nobody: 10:29am On Sep 25, 2017
Olarababy:
Can someone explain to me the meaning of the word in respect to Nigeria

It has nothing to do with the masses. Believe it or not, 80% of the people shoutn "marginalized" can't spell the word.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Cinkq: 10:35am On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


Igbos are simply greedy....we are all marginalized by our elected leaders.

I remember a thread during Jonathans regime where Yoruba leaders complained about marginalization...Igbo nairalanders showed how vile and hateful they can be, jubilating all over the thread with very disgusting comments.

....fast forward to 2015, dey now turned to wailing wailers and marginalization was the only pathetic excuse for them to hold on to, so as to form IPOB and destabilize the incoming government.



How can a landlocked region possess a standard seaport? You can now see that attribute of greediness... Besides why didn't you all tell your beloved Jonathan to give u seaport... Na now your memory just reboot abi?
God bless you for this.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Cinkq: 10:37am On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


Igbos are simply greedy....we are all marginalized by our elected leaders.

I remember a thread during Jonathans regime where Yoruba leaders complained about marginalization...Igbo nairalanders showed how vile and hateful they can be, jubilating all over the thread with very disgusting comments.

....fast forward to 2015, dey now turned to wailing wailers and marginalization was the only pathetic excuse for them to hold on to, so as to form IPOB and destabilize the incoming government.



How can a landlocked region possess a standard seaport? You can now see that attribute of greediness... Besides why didn't you all tell your beloved Jonathan to give u seaport... Na now your memory just reboot abi?
God bless you for this post. Yorubas didn't threaten to bring down the country when jonathan was in office.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by ElsonMorali: 10:42am On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:



Absence of federal presence in the region especially in key infrastructures like functional seaports that will help the people to reduce importation through Lagos ports

Which south east border is adjacent to the sea?

Absence of federal presence?

Does each of the state capitals in the east have federal Secretariat or not?

Are there senatorial districts in the east or not?

Do federal roads pass through the south east or not?

Is the entire south east on the power grid of Nigeria or not?

Are there military barracks in the south east it not?

Are there federal universities in the south east or not?

Which other federal presence are you looking for?

You want Nigeria to relocate the FCT to Enugu or Abia before you quit screaming marginalization abi?

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by SillyMods: 10:58am On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:
WHY IGBOS ARE ANGRY WITH NIGERIA

My friends who are not from the Easvt of Nigeria where Igbos come from often ask me why there is so much anger in the East and among Igbos. Some wonder why, despite the famed Igbo” wealth’ and enterprise all over Nigeria, the people still complain that Nigeria is unfair to them. Some insinuate that the anger comes from the loss of the 2015 election by Jonathan who the Igbos heavily backed.

And why is it that the current generation of Igbos are so angry as to contemplate carrying arms against the country? With lots are following Nnamdi Kanu of IPOB with his secessionist message. Those not following may despise his antics and rhetoric but are sympathetic to his underlying message? And what is that message? That Igbos don’t feel wanted in Nigeria. That decades of official marginalization and discrimination should be stopped or they would be ready to take their chances in a new nation.

First, for those who think this is all about Jonathan and Buhari. It is not. Igbos were disappointed that Jonathan did not win. But those whose candidates lose elections lick their wounds. It is allowed. It happens when your candidate loses election. Why did the Igbos invest so much emotions in Jonathan, a non-Igbo Ijaw? It was more because of the fear of their experience in the past 50 years. Nigeria has placed an embargo on any Igbo man becoming Nigerian president. Jonathan was the next best thing. Other parts of Nigeria have supported their sons to the presidency. Some have bombed Nigeria into submission to get their son to Aso Rock. Igbos have little capacity to blackmail Nigeria to the presidency. They chose Jonathan as their “Igbo”. But that’s not to say that they are angry enough because he lost to contemplate going to war on his behalf. Jonathan was not really the model of a President you would go to war for. And his Ijaw people have accepted his loss. So?

Igbo anger has been building up in Nigeria since I was a kid in the 70s. As kids, we made choices in our school years based on the narrative of the Igbo place in Nigeria. We knew of the glass ceiling against Igbos before we were out of puberty. After the civil war, despite the “No winner, no vanquished” program, Nigeria placed glass ceilings and no-go areas for Igbos. The war reconstruction program was observed more in the breach. There was the “abandoned” property program that was introduced to drive a wedge between components of the former South-East Nigeria. While the country was too embarrassed to put the discrimination program down in an official gazette, it was there for anyone who cared to look. It was evident in the Igbo police officer who stayed in one position while less qualifies juniors progressed to become his bosses. It was evident when no Igbo qualified to become the Inspector General of Police, or leader any division in the armed forces. It was there when "sensitive" or "lucrative" positions were shared in Nigeria and Igbos were conspicuously absent. It was there when Igbos were only fit enough to be made Minister of Information until Obasanjo came to power. And even recently, it was there when Buhari appointed 47 people to man the critical roles in his government and no one from the South east was there. Any time there is a federal appointment in Nigeria, its usually the east that shouts. It was there from Buhari first term to his second term and anyone in-between.

The Igbo elite called it marginalization. Other Nigerians countered by saying no part of Nigeria was getting enough. Marginalization was universal. But they forgot something. The Igbo cry of marginalization was official policy. It was expected. It was programmed. And occasionally, key government officials let it slip that Igbos should not complain. After all, they fought a war with Nigeria. Talk about No Victor, No Vanquished. There was a Victor alright. And they were reminded of that at every turn. Every appointment. Every national project. Nigeria was only pretending. Igbos were licking their wounds and complaining and the rest of Nigeria was too busy to notice.

Go to the South-East today. Since the 70s and the oil boom. Nigeria has invested in commercial industries across the country. None has been sited in the South east. None. Refineries, Steel Plants, Cement Firms. Any Industry. The South East was systematically de-industrialized. Even when it was the best location for any industry, there was always a reason why it should not be sited there. What this means was that any Igbo man that wanted to work in a commercial federal establishment had to leave the east. Add this to the indigenization policy of the early 70s that pushed the Igbos out of private companies. It meant that international companies also avoided expansion into the south east. The Nigerian Breweries, the Dunlop and other such firms sited their plants outside the East and only set up distribution centers to sell in the region. This is one of the main reasons the exodus of Igbos from the zone accelerated after the war and continues to this day despite the hostility they face in certain parts of Nigeria. And why most became traders and commercial business men. Because access to organized work either in the government, government commercial institutions and even commercial institutions were limited.

The only industrial enterprise in the east are built by easterners; Nnewi, Aba, Onitsha. These are Igbo indigenous industrial cities.

This has been the practice since the end of the war.
In addition to this, the Federal Government has systematically made it difficult for Easterners to do commercial business even in the East. The Federal Roads in the East are some of the worst in Nigeria. The Eastern Sea ports have been made ineffective. It was a war to get the Enugu Airport upgraded to an International Airport. The former Finance Minister shed tears on the day the first International Flight landed in Enugu. Yes, Okonjo Iwealla cried! Recently, it was only the South East that was conspicuously missing in the New Railway Plan of the Federal Government. Nigeria has 6 regions. And one was missing in a national railway plan. Incidentally, Igbos who reside here are the most itinerant in the country and would benefit most from a national transport plan. Even our President changed the plan to include his village but a zone of the country was not included.

When you go to the east, despite the lack of federal presence, the presence of police all over the east tells a story. They mount road blocks and make it difficult to have commercial activity. Recently, Customs has joined. And lastly the army. It is an occupied territory. They extort money. They intimate. They recently have started killing.

Nigeria has made the east unlivable. Purposely. Carefully.

I am often in conversations where people accuse the east of being clannish. That while we are welcome in all parts of Nigeria, outsiders cannot come to the East. My question is: why would you come to the east? To do what? There is no business to do in the east. Nigeria has ensured that. Why would someone from the South West of Nigeria go to the East to invest? No one would prevent you. But it hardly makes commercial sense. Nigeria has ensured that. Those from the North are there in droves. Igbos love to celebrate with cows. And the cattlemen go there to sell their cattle. No one molests them. In my village and most villages in the East, they live unmolested. But those are the only people who can find commercial reason to be there!

So those who wonder why Igbos are angry, wonder no more. While most would not dare carry arms against Nigeria, don’t under estimate the level of disconnection and anger especially among the younger generation. Nigeria is made of nations that came together to form a country. No nation will like to be in perpetual servitude. That Nnamdi Kanu’s supporters starred down army tanks with sticks is a sign that the next generation will be ready to fight bare hands if necessary to stop Nigeria treating the Igbo nation as second-class citizens. There will be fiercer and angrier Kanus in our immediate future if Nigeria does not officially stop the “vanquished “program against the Igbos who fought the civil war. You cannot preach unity and indivisibility of the country on TV and all your actions point at discriminating against the components of the country. It is as dangerous as it is foolhardy. Let those who preach unity walk the talk and stop open discrimination of their countrymen. History has shown that you cannot decree peace. You cannot decree unity. You cannot force any group to belong to a country by force, it may work for a time. But never sustainable.
Nigeria has a lot to look forward to as a united country. It also has enough for the regions and nations that make up the country. Our diversity is a blessing. Our failure to reach our potential is caused mostly by the internal contradictions and the inability to build a fair country that can bring out the best out of her component regions. Those who shout most about loving Nigeria today are mostly those its current unfair structure favor. But Nigeria will continue being as strong as its weakest link. And the weak links are all there to see. The East is one of the weakest links. Until it stops being a weak link, Nigeria cannot truly make progress.
The writer of this beautiful nonsense forgot to include the following facts:
1. That Ojukwu was allowed to contest for the highest office in the land but Igbos did not vote for him. He lost even in his own state and LG.
2. That Buhari on three occasions picked a running mate from the Igbo group but they preferred to vote for tickets with no Igbo person on those three ocassions.
3. That Igbos always look for troubles and abuse others at every given opportunity. As such, other tribes have come to hate the Igbos in turn.

Yeye people.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by buchilino(m): 11:00am On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


What is there to learn? Your post was a vague compilation of numerous copy and paste half truths.

It is too lengthy and bogus to be taken serious. We did summary in high school for a reason.

WATS DER TO LEARN U SAY?. LET ME USE AMERICA FOR EXAMPLE. IF AMERICANS CHOOSE NOT TO PUT DER CIVIL WAR BEHIND DEM N TREAT EACH OTHER WITH EQUITY N JUSTICE, DO U THINK IT WOULD HAD BEEN A GREAT NATION?. GERMANS STARTED BOTH 1st n 2nd WORLD WARS, TODAY BECAUSE EUROPEANS CHOOSE TO PUT DAT EVENT BEHIND DEM N MOVE ON, EU N EURO R NOW D TESTIMONIES OF DAT DECISION. DER R SO MANY EXAMPLES WHERE PPLE FOUGHT EACH OTHER BUT LATER BECAME GREAT FRIENDS N ALLIES. BUT HERE IN NIGERIA AN EVENT DAT HAPPENED MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO, UR NOW TELLING ME DAT I N MY FUTURE GENERATIONS SHOULD PAY 4 SOMETHING WE HAD NO HAND IN. AM QUITE SURE U WEREN'T BORN WEN DAT HAPPENED, YET HERE U R THROWING VIBES N INSULTS AT ME BASED ON "WAT OUR SO CALLED FATHERS SAID" DATS Y I SAID U WILL NEVA LEARN.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by buchilino(m): 11:03am On Sep 25, 2017
SillyMods:

The writer of this beautiful nonsense forgot to include the following facts:
1. That Ojukwu was allowed to contest for the highest office in the land but Igbos did not vote for him. He lost even in his own state and LG.
2. That Buhari on three occasions picked a running mate from the Igbo group but they preferred to vote for tickets with no Igbo person on those three ocassions.
3. That Igbos always look for troubles and abuse others at every given opportunity. As such, other tribes have come to hate the Igbos in turn.

Yeye people.

I WILL LEAVE PPLE WITH OBJECTIVE MINDS N INTELLIGENCE TO DECIDE BW MY POST N URS, WHICH IS TRASH.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Olarababy(f): 11:40am On Sep 25, 2017
libertyhope2017:


Same person as the OP...deceiving his ewedu filled coneskull. Opened a thread with one moniker, then use another moniker to buttress his point. Dumb Afonja
Why would i do that....i simply want to understand the term because am Igbo

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 11:43am On Sep 25, 2017
ElsonMorali:


Which south east border is adjacent to the sea?

Absence of federal presence?

Does each of the state capitals in the east have federal Secretariat or not?

Are there senatorial districts in the east or not?

Do federal roads pass through the south east or not?

Is the entire south east on the power grid of Nigeria or not?

Are there military barracks in the south east it not?

Are there federal universities in the south east or not?

Which other federal presence are you looking for?

You want Nigeria to relocate the FCT to Enugu or Abia before you quit screaming marginalization abi?

They're simply greedy. Any Igbo person who is not born greedy and spiteful should question his or her paternity cos its ingrained in their DNA

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 11:58am On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:


WATS DER TO LEARN U SAY?. LET ME USE AMERICA FOR EXAMPLE. IF AMERICANS CHOOSE NOT TO PUT DER CIVIL WAR BEHIND DEM N TREAT EACH OTHER WITH EQUITY N JUSTICE, DO U THINK IT WOULD HAD BEEN A GREAT NATION?. GERMANS STARTED BOTH 1st n 2nd WORLD WARS, TODAY BECAUSE EUROPEANS CHOOSE TO PUT DAT EVENT BEHIND DEM N MOVE ON, EU N EURO R NOW D TESTIMONIES OF DAT DECISION. DER R SO MANY EXAMPLES WHERE PPLE FOUGHT EACH OTHER BUT LATER BECAME GREAT FRIENDS N ALLIES. BUT HERE IN NIGERIA AN EVENT DAT HAPPENED MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO, UR NOW TELLING ME DAT I N MY FUTURE GENERATIONS SHOULD PAY 4 SOMETHING WE HAD NO HAND IN. AM QUITE SURE U WEREN'T BORN WEN DAT HAPPENED, YET HERE U R THROWING VIBES N INSULTS AT ME BASED ON "WAT OUR SO CALLED FATHERS SAID" DATS Y I SAID U WILL NEVA LEARN.

here we go again with blaming others instead of yourselves. Igbos are the masters of hate speeches and insult. Nnamdi kanu insulted anybody insultable and all you all hailed him and spread his gospel of insults and hatred.

In Nigeria today, Yoruba is the most docile and easy going tribe amongst the major tribes. We do our thing and mind our own business.

When Jonathan decided to insult our sensibilities his Bleep up was treated in a civil and matured manner instead of constituting nuisance everywhere..

You all reaped what you sowed and we hold no grudges whatsoever....

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by vicadex07(m): 12:00pm On Sep 25, 2017
libertyhope2017:


Same person as the OP...deceiving his ewedu filled coneskull. Opened a thread with one moniker, then use another moniker to buttress his point. Dumb Afonja

This one has nothing upstairs as expected...

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by buchilino(m): 12:08pm On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


here we go again with blaming others instead of yourselves. Igbos are the masters of hate speeches and insult. Nnamdi kanu insulted anybody insultable and all you all hailed him and spread his gospel of insults and hatred.

In Nigeria today, Yoruba is the most docile and easy going tribe amongst the major tribes. We do our thing and mind our own business.

When Jonathan decided to insult our sensibilities his Bleep up was treated in a civil and matured manner instead of constituting nuisance everywhere..

You all reaped what you sowed and we hold no grudges whatsoever....

I HAVE TOLD U Y IGBOS R ANGRY, AS AN INTELLECTAUL, UR NEXT QUESTION SHOULD BE HOW DO WE SOLVE DIS PROBLEM TOGETHER. BUT UR HERE TELLING ME, NK SAID DIS OR SAID DAT. MY EARLIER POST WAS 4 NIGERIANS TO READ N UNDERSTAND Y ALL DIS IS HAPPENING. DO U HONESTLY THINK DAT IF FAIR SHARING OF RESOURCES, JUSTICE N EQUITY EXSITED IN NIGERIA, NK WILL HAVE SUPPORTERS?. AM NOT HERE TO PREACH IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA ISSUE. IF NIGERIANS DEMAND 4 EQUAL JUSTICE N EQUITY, BIAFRA WILL BE A THING OF D PAST.

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by Basic123: 12:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:


I HAVE TOLD U Y IGBOS R ANGRY, AS AN INTELLECTAUL, UR NEXT QUESTION SHOULD BE HOW DO WE SOLVE DIS PROBLEM TOGETHER. BUT UR HERE TELLING ME, NK SAID DIS OR SAID DAT. MY EARLIER POST WAS 4 NIGERIANS TO READ N UNDERSTAND Y ALL DIS IS HAPPENING. DO U HONESTLY THINK DAT IF FAIR SHARING OF RESOURCES, JUSTICE N EQUITY EXSITED IN NIGERIA, NK WILL HAVE SUPPORTERS?. AM NOT HERE TO PREACH IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA ISSUE. IF NIGERIANS DEMAND 4 EQUAL JUSTICE N EQUITY, BIAFRA WILL BE A THING OF D PAST.

when you are angry on something meaningful and not over your inability to dominate,oppress and maginalize other tribes.we can talk of solving the problem.

I wonder what federal presence or maginalization you need that GEJ,okonjo iweala,stella oduah ,emefiele and allyson madueke couldn't provide or correct in 6years.

Igbo are bad loosers and play emotional politics simple!

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by 0m0nnakoda: 12:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:


I HAVE TOLD U Y IGBOS R ANGRY, AS AN INTELLECTAUL, UR NEXT QUESTION SHOULD BE HOW DO WE SOLVE DIS PROBLEM TOGETHER. BUT UR HERE TELLING ME, NK SAID DIS OR SAID DAT. MY EARLIER POST WAS 4 NIGERIANS TO READ N UNDERSTAND Y ALL DIS IS HAPPENING. DO U HONESTLY THINK DAT IF FAIR SHARING OF RESOURCES, JUSTICE N EQUITY EXSITED IN NIGERIA, NK WILL HAVE SUPPORTERS?. AM NOT HERE TO PREACH IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA ISSUE. IF NIGERIANS DEMAND 4 EQUAL JUSTICE N EQUITY, BIAFRA WILL BE A THING OF D PAST.
Every body is angry so try and understand the world does not revolve around you .We are all very angry
Being angry is no justification for the hate Nnamdi Kanu unleashed. You think it is a minor thing but we don't. You are focussed on your problems and have NO INTEREST IN OTHER PEOPLE'S GRIEVANCES

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by 0m0nnakoda: 12:21pm On Sep 25, 2017
buchilino:


I HAVE TOLD U Y IGBOS R ANGRY, AS AN INTELLECTAUL, UR NEXT QUESTION SHOULD BE HOW DO WE SOLVE DIS PROBLEM TOGETHER. BUT UR HERE TELLING ME, NK SAID DIS OR SAID DAT. MY EARLIER POST WAS 4 NIGERIANS TO READ N UNDERSTAND Y ALL DIS IS HAPPENING. DO U HONESTLY THINK DAT IF FAIR SHARING OF RESOURCES, JUSTICE N EQUITY EXSITED IN NIGERIA, NK WILL HAVE SUPPORTERS?. AM NOT HERE TO PREACH IGBO, YORUBA OR HAUSA ISSUE. IF NIGERIANS DEMAND 4 EQUAL JUSTICE N EQUITY, BIAFRA WILL BE A THING OF D PAST.
Have you paused to think why everyone seems angry with you? Go and read this thread and stop deceiving yourselves https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan .Try and give other Nigerians credit we are not as stupid as you would like us to be.

Anyway I do not see how the people of Kogi Kebbi Ekiti Adamawa Benue or Gombe have a better deal than you

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by OjukwuWarBird: 12:26pm On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


Igbos are simply greedy....we are all marginalized by our elected leaders.

I remember a thread during Jonathans regime where Yoruba leaders complained about marginalization...Igbo nairalanders showed how vile and hateful they can be, jubilating all over the thread with very disgusting comments.

....fast forward to 2015, dey now turned to wailing wailers and marginalization was the only pathetic excuse for them to hold on to, so as to form IPOB and destabilize the incoming government.



How can a landlocked region possess a standard seaport? You can now see that attribute of greediness... Besides why didn't you all tell your beloved Jonathan to give u seaport... Na now your memory just reboot abi?



Open Ibaka seaport and dredge River Niger

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by ElsonMorali: 12:33pm On Sep 25, 2017
vicadex07:


They're simply greedy. Any Igbo person who is not born greedy and spiteful should question his or her paternity cos its ingrained in their DNA

Walahi!

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by mrvitalis(m): 12:34pm On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:




Open Ibaka seaport and dredge River Niger
Y can't state do this
Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by 0m0nnakoda: 12:41pm On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:




Open Ibaka seaport and dredge River Niger
Dredging river Niger is not just an Igbo issue it concerns all the states in the Niger Delta because of the environmental impact and with all the isues of flooding it is not going to happen. We all remember the flooding of 2012 very bitterly
Dredge the Niger just to please Igbos? When there can be ports in Rivers Delta Akwa Ibom Cross River and Ondo States.
There is no need for dredging

If the Niger is to be dredged for inland port why stop in the SE why not go all the way to Lokoja Niger Kwara and Sokoto states.

You folk always think only of your selves.

Let us go to resource control and then you can do what you like with your resources
I don't see how Ibaka seaport is an Igbo project .Already you are appropriating what belongs to others

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by hamzeiy: 12:42pm On Sep 25, 2017
0m0nnakoda:

Have you paused to think why everyone seems angry with you? Go and read this thread and stop deceiving yourselves https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan .Try and give other Nigerians credit we are not as stupid as you would like us to be.

Anyway I do not see how the people of Kogi Kebbi Ekiti Adamawa Benue or Gombe have a better deal than you
abeg help me tell them. We from middle belt despite consisting of 7 states have not seen any tangible federal presence since the creation of this country. Yet we have not created enmity with everybody because of that. If everybody hates you then its time you start asking your self the hard question. It my be your fault

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Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by OjukwuWarBird: 12:43pm On Sep 25, 2017
0m0nnakoda:
Dredging river Niger is not just an Igbo issue it concerns all the states in the Niger Delta because of the environmental impact and with all the isues of flooding it is not going to happen. We all remember the flooding of 2012 very bitterly
Dredge the Niger just to please Igbos? When there can be ports in Rivers Delta Akwa Ibom Cross River and Ondo States.
There is no need for dredging

If the Niger is to be dredged for inland port by stop in the SE why not go all the way to Lokoja Niger Kwara and Sokoto states.

You folk always think only of your selves.

Let us go to resource control and then you can do what you like with your resources
I don't see how Ibaka seaport is an Igbo project .Already you are appropriating what belongs to others


Ibaka is in Akwa Ibom.
Re: What Is Marginalization in Respect To Igbos by 0m0nnakoda: 12:45pm On Sep 25, 2017
OjukwuWarBird:



Ibaka is in Akwa Ibom.
i know? and your point is?

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