MaxInDHouse:

That is what all religionists always say!

So are you saying Judaists, Hindus, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims and all others claiming they know Almighty God know what God requires yet they're all contradicting themselves?

I can and will only speak for myself. You cannot simply rely on another to lead you to God. God will stir up this in you hopefully you make the effort for this to be done yourself. I have passed through a point where I sought to research to know God but simply asked God to reveal himself due to uncertainty that the concept of God was man made to control and exploit.

FxMasterz:


I have asked you to deny that good works qualify people for paradise according to Islamic teachings.

The stand of the Bible and its prophets is in the opposite. Prove me wrong regarding Islam.

You are getting rather diversive. You stated that Muhammad pbuh contradicts what others say and I have asked you to explain how and here you are reversing the question back to me. Your listing 25 sayings of hadith are not convincing enough that they came through Muhammad.

Tell me the stand of the Quran. Your not being muslim doesn't prevent you from knowing.

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You are getting rather diversive. You stated that Muhammad pbuh contradicts what others say and I have asked you to explain how and here you are reversing the question back to me. Your listing 25 sayings of hadith are not convincing enough that they came through Muhammad.

Tell me the stand of the Quran. Your not being muslim doesn't prevent you from knowing.

I've told you the stand of your Quran. I don't have to quote it. I told you what you already know. If it's a lie, deny it!

Are good works not the prerequisites for entering the Islamic paradise? Yes or No? Whatever your answer is, did you get the view from the Bible? I'll call knowledgeable Christians on the matter of the Quran to help me out if you keep dribbling.

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The overtly learned Tenq that knows it all. What course can you give me? Does your Bible deceive you to know all about God yet your Jesus messiah reports of things he knows not except the father. Father referring to almighty God.

Part of what is known of the spirit of Allah is that the spirit of Allah is an essential aspect of the Islamic faith. It provides believers with guidance, enlightenment, and strength to navigate the challenges of life.The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil. It is through this divine spirit that believers establish a personal and profound connection with Allah and strive towards leading a life of righteousness.

“And thus We have revealed to you a spirit of Our command. You did not know what the Book was nor faith, but We made it a light, guiding thereby whom We please of Our servants. And indeed, [O Muhammad], you guide to a straight path" (Q42:52).

The spirit of Allah is not confined to an entity . It is believed that Allah's spirit is present within every individual, providing them with the capacity to seek divine knowledge, comprehend righteousness, and distinguish between right and wrong.

The spirit of God is both divine and mysterious, and possesses unique qualities that differentiate it from other creations.It is a reflection of His power and will, capable of bestowing life, guidance, and inspiration upon humans. It is depicted as an ethereal force that can intervene in worldly affairs, imparting wisdom and performing miracles.

It permeates the universe, enabling God to be aware of all things. Surah Al-Mujadila (58:7) affirms this by stating, "And God is with them [people] wherever they may be." This highlights the Quranic belief that the spirit of God is not bound by physical limitations but rather omnipresent and directly connected to creation.

Your Biblical definition has the spirit or holy spirit as part of a three or one in three like some extreme type of mathematics.

When considering John 4:24, it is crucial to appreciate the broader context of the verse and its implications. The notion of God as a spirit speaks to the spiritual realm rather than implying a corporeal existence. Spirituality encompasses the essence of God—a metaphysical presence that cannot be confined within human parameters. Identifying God as spirit underscores the infinite nature and transcendence associated with divinity.

What is God searching for like it's hidden and he is unaware of everything?

Genesis 1:27 may be understood metaphorically, highlighting that humans possess certain qualities that set them apart from the rest of creation. Unlike other creatures, humans have the ability to reason, make choices, and possess moral consciousness. This unique capacity allows individuals to contemplate and understand their relationship with God and the world, serves as a basis for ethical decision-making, and enables them to strive for personal growth and transformation. This verse should not be misunderstood to mean mankind looks like God. Far above comparison is God to anything. Perhaps as your Biblical God adopted a human form this is the likeness you refer to. For above such comparison is Allah whom nothing is like or comparable to.

Humans possess qualities that reflect the divine, whether that be spiritual characteristics or the unique capabilities that set them apart from other creatures. These however are but a tiny reflection of the divine.

Then you try to justify your trinity by attempting to describe in relation to man? Really unfortunate though as many argue that spirit and soul are synonymous and refer to the same aspect of human existence. Or you say the soul is the essence of an individual, comprising their emotions, thoughts, and consciousness. It is the part of a person that experiences and learns from the physical world, leading to personal growth and self-awareness while spirit represents the deeper, more transcendent aspect of human existence. It is often associated with the divine or higher power and is believed to hold infinite wisdom, truth, and connection to a world beyond the physical. Can you seriously separate spirit from soul this way? Jesus in your Bible refers to soul of man but not spirit. Does this not show there aren't these two in man as distinct or the same?Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Why no mention of spirit?

I am surprised that never once did you answer any of the questions below . The question is not whether a spirit is mysterious or not. I We know that it is mysterious and the source is God.

Again

Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!

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I can and will only speak for myself. You cannot simply rely on another to lead you to God. God will stir up this in you hopefully you make the effort for this to be done yourself. I have passed through a point where I sought to research to know God but simply asked God to reveal himself due to uncertainty that the concept of God was man made to control and exploit.

You're just mimicking what all religionists often say to justify their choice of beliefs!

No dedicated religionist will tell you he or she is following others they will tell you they searched for God and he revealed himself to them.

My question still stands:

How can we IDENTIFY the true religion?

FxMasterz:


I've told you the stand of your Quran. I don't have to quote it. I told you what you already know. If it's a lie, deny it!

Are good works not the prerequisites for entering the Islamic paradise? Yes or No? Whatever your answer is, did you get the view from the Bible? I'll call knowledgeable Christians on the matter of the Quran to help me out if you keep dribbling.

You tell me arbitrarily without an exact verse of the Quran? How? Or is it this link for hadith you share (https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/)?

Be truthful.

MaxInDHouse:


You're just mimicking what all religionists often say to justify their choice of beliefs!

No dedicated religionist will tell you he or she is following others they will tell you they searched for God and he revealed himself to them.

My question still stands:

How can we IDENTIFY the true religion?

We?

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We?

YES! We!
Instead of arguing blindly in support of choices there should be an indisputable identifying mark of true religion for us to connect all honest hearted and sincere people.
Do you know it?

TenQ:

I am surprised that never once did you answer any of the questions below . The question is not whether a spirit is mysterious or not. I We know that it is mysterious and the source is God.

Again

Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)


Don't avoid answering each of these questions!

What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

MaxInDHouse:

YES! We!
Instead of arguing blindly in support of choices there should be an indisputable identifying mark of true religion for us to connect all honest hearted and sincere people.
Do you know it?

Arguing? Who or what is arguing with you? Is your way of life not personally yours or are you a trail follower?

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Arguing? Who or what is arguing with you? Is your way of life not personally yours or are you a trail follower?

If your way of life is PERSONALLY yours then all holy books are not needed you should be the one determining everything without consulting some books called "holy" written by others!

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What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

I wished you answered these questions one by one rather than lumping up your perceived answers.


Let me ask you a few questions (I hope you wouldn't dodge responding to it)
1. In Islam, what is a Spirit (Ruh)?
2. In that light, how is Jubril a spirit?
3. Are other Angels spirits?
4. In Islam, what does it mean that man was created in the image of God
5. Is islam, I what is the difference between a Soul (Nafs) and a Spirit (Ruh)

Don't you think that the answer of "what is a Spirit" will explain why "Jubril is the holy spirit"?


Are you aware that the Qur'an NEVER once called Jibril the "Holy Spirit"?
The title is reserved only for God.

Here is what Jesus said:

Mat 12:31:
"Why I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to men."



Please answer them by number so that I know what you are answering

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What does this from my previous answer tell you?

The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil

And previously:
Allah's essence cannot be contained or reduced to a single entity, including Jubril

Jubril plays an instrumental role in delivering divine messages, it is essential to remember that his role is just a fragment of Allah's vast wisdom and presence

Allah's spirit is not limited to a single angel or being, but rather encompasses the divine essence that is spread throughout the universe. The spirit of Allah is all-encompassing and can be felt and experienced in numerous ways, whether through the beauty of nature, the compassion in people's hearts, or the serenity found in prayer

Did Allah or God not breath his spirit into Adam? Is it all his spirit that was put into Adam?

if you are an architect and draw up a plan which you later transform into a building is it not your plan or design that you have built?

If Allah's essence is his spirit, does then it is blasphemy to call an angel "the Holy Spirit" except you don't know what a spirit is.


If it is true that:
"The spirit of Allah is present in all living beings, helping them understand and follow Allah's teachings, and protecting them from evil"
How then can an angel be called THE Holy Spirit?

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You tell me arbitrarily without an exact verse of the Quran? How? Or is it this link for hadith you share (https://backtojannah.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/)?

Be truthful.

Please deny the claim. Tell me it's not Islamic!

MaxInDHouse:

If your way of life is PERSONALLY yours then all holy books are not needed you should be the one determining everything without consulting some books called "holy" written by others!

Although books can provide valuable insights and perspectives on faith, they are merely tools that can assist in the exploration and development of one's beliefs.

Ultimately, the true essence of faith lies within the individual, and it is through the active engagement with the world, both within and beyond the covers of a book, that one can truly derive and nurture their faith.

Faith has long been considered a deeply personal and subjective experience that can be derived from various sources.

Is your faith derived from copying another's concept or through personal introspection? Did your forefather Abraham; assuming you have a shred of belief you descended from him, derive faith from reading pages or between covers of a book?

Explore2xmore:


Although books can provide valuable insights and perspectives on faith, they are merely tools that can assist in the exploration and development of one's beliefs.

Ultimately, the true essence of faith lies within the individual, and it is through the active engagement with the world, both within and beyond the covers of a book, that one can truly derive and nurture their faith.

Faith has long been considered a deeply personal and subjective experience that can be derived from various sources.

Is your faith derived from copying another's concept or through personal introspection? Did your forefather Abraham; assuming you have a shred of belief you descended from him, derive faith from reading pages or between covers of a book?

Who is Abraham?

MaxInDHouse:


Who is Abraham?

The one you refer to here.

MaxInDHouse:


Christianity wasn't created by any human the young Jewish carpenter from Nazareth started the movement to fulfil God's promise regarding the endtime.

This is what the God of Abraham said about the endtime:


May you have PEACE!

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The one you refer to here.

So if you want to talk about Abraham then you can't possibly be yourself because you're using the standard set by someone else: Abraham

You don't see the analogy? What reference did Abraham have besides his thoughts?

Do you not have the capacity to reason?

MaxInDHouse:

So if you want to talk about Abraham then you can't possibly be yourself because you're using the standard set by someone else: Abraham

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You don't see the analogy? What reference did Abraham have besides his thoughts? Do you not have the capacity to reason?

You're the one who hasn't gotten the logic here!
We don't need an ancient Asian man if you say each person should use his or her own reasoning.

MaxInDHouse:

You're the one who hasn't gotten the logic here!
We don't need an ancient Asian man if you say each person should use his or her own reasoning.

No one says you need him. Just as he didn't need you to get divine guidance.

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No one says you need him. Just as he didn't need you to get divine guidance.

So if you don't need anything from him then what brought him into your connection with God?

UnemployedGradu:
Ashawo!

You are running mad because of what you started, take heart

UnemployedGradu:
I hereby curse you today and forever, it shall never be well with you! You must always carry the signs of pains and afflictions all your life!

Lamenting 3:37 and proverb 26:27, Tabathiyada

UnemployedGradu:
ugly witch! You converted to Muslim because no christian could manage an ugly thing like you!

Why do you take out your frustrations on what is not related to it? You should do better and not resort to verbal abuse.

id advice you visit gofuckyourself thread.
heas a nairalander and dont mind the name dear, its his smokescreen

vannessa7:
My battery is low, to be continued

After I lost my job, I had to sell my car, all my shares in companies, my laptop, all my gold while searching for job for several years, i met a brick wall everywhere I went, I started visiting prayer mountains all over Nigeria, I spent a long time living on prayer mountains and I saw so many things, when your life is normal you don't appreciate what God has done for you, there are people on prayer mountains who has been there for months and years and cannot go home anymore because of warfare, enemies have made people's life a satanic playing field and yet they are all fasting and praying, I still couldn't get a job and it was on the prayer mountain I met my late husband, as a Muslim now I was surprised to see that every word uttered during salat five times in a day is praises and worship of God only, and with all the bowing down to worship God no wonder it's not easy for a practicing Muslim to be possessed, when you bow down to pray and worship the God of the universe any demon in you will have to bow down with you and the devil cannot do that, he asked Jesus to bow down and worship him but Jesus refused, the demon will have to leave you if you are constantly bowing down to worship God, and BTW (by the way) that is what we will be doing in heaven because everyone in heaven bow down every day to worship the only living God according to the Bible, the 24elders, the cherubim and seraphim and the 4living creatures together with everyone in heaven. I also realised attributing thanks and worship to Jesus is like Abraham after receiving the ram to replace Isaac he decided to start worshipping the ram instead of God the giver of the ram, another way I look at it is the issue of grace, it brings corruption In the end, that person besides you in the church can continue as a witch and still be blessed, it brings loop holes whereby the devil can continue to operate even in the house of God, the moment you give the responsibility of doing the right thing to someone else that he has died for your sin, you have the grace to continue to be evil, you believe you will always repent and grace will cover you, your soul is being corrupted, but grace will not apply after death, it's what you did that matters, another reasoning is that Jesus said he came for the sinners and not the righteous, then to receive him you must qualify as a sinner, the devil has every right to come into your life since you can't be holy and still be a sinner, you can confess to a crime in court and not be jailed. Prophet Muhammad (Saw) said other prophets were given miracles but he was not given and he was only given a message to man kind to serve God alone and I deduced from that that he wasn't giving a miracle because you won't need one if you faithfully practice your Islam, praying 5times in a day is like going for special programs in church 5times daily, and BTW why do men of God call themselves servants of God, and it is when they attain that status that the power and anointing of God comes upon them, I will not deny the great move of God in my ministries while a Christian but it was the case of physician heal thyself, I was afflicted all through, when I left my first church where I spent 16years, spirit of death started following me in the dream, I was threatened to return there but it was revealed to me that the church is satanic, so I told God that I stand with the 3hebrew children that I will no longer bow to the devil even in the face of death threat, I used to see vulture beside me everywhere, I prayed and I received psalm 27to pray everyday before the death threats stopped, I changed to rccg but that my former church keep manifesting and did not allow me to gain the full benefits of the power of God there until I converted to Islam, however every religion has a caveat emptor, for Islam I think the weakness are lack of emphasis on blood, we are enjoined to kill ram for sacrifice to God and even if you go for hajj you must kill your own ram, blood is needed to receive wealth, that is why people still do money ritual, any country that has red on its national flag will eventually prosper especially if it's an Islamic nation because every deity receives blood, it is the currency to receive wealth in the spiritual, Islam brings holiness combined with blood you receive stupendous wealth, That is why some Islamic nation are stupendiously wealthy, imagine a car made with pure gold in Dubai, imagine the wealth in Malaysia etc, if red can just be added to the Nigerian flag the north will be the wealthiest and boko Aram will be history, boko Aram and every form of wanton blood shed is a result of demand for blood in the spiritual , I used to wonder why Asian countries who serve various idols are so developed until I understand this principle, they don't joke with red colour, observe them very well and you will understand why their idols have not destroyed them and they are prospering, when the spies got to Jericho and they were helped by the prostitute Rahab, who later became a great grandmother of Jesus, they told her to tie a red cloth on her window, her house was on the wall of the city fence, when the children of Israel matched round and blew the trumpet, the wall fell but her house wasn't affected, even in Egypt all they had to do is put blood on the wall and angel of death didn't kill their first born, even Moses nearly died but the wife quickly circumcsize her child and threw the skin on Moses calling him a blood husband, that was after God has called him, death met him on the road, too many examples in the Bible, I understand there are different types of people, some are so strong and naturally holy that they are not easily influenced by evil, but for people like me who need complete holiness, Islam is the only way out,

vannessa7:
I felt compelled to write this after observing the online tussle between Muslim's and Christians here on Nairaland about who is right or wrong. After going through my write up I'm sure you might be more enlightened, I converted to Islam Nov 2016 after 20years of being a dedicated born again minister, I was a home fellowship leader, prayer warrior member, sanctuary cleaner, evangelist, followup member, I used to pray for members of my fellowship and God perform miracles, I use to receive revelations about members that will be perfectly accurate, I was always in every service, but nothing was happening in my life, I had a lot of respect from people that knew how God was using me but nothing was happening in my life, no husband, I lost my job after attaining a top management position, I had incessant witchcraft attacks, familiar spirit, ancestral curses and family idol, I became a deliverance junkie in mfm, I never missed rccg Holy Ghost service, winners Shiloh, I eventually got married 10yrs after graduation, 4yrs later my husband died, by that time I had crossed over to rccg with my husband in Abuja, I was an evangelist. I came back to the south to live with my mum as I had nothing left, I immediately joined rccg there and became committed, but I noticed that when I started praying for another husband only Muslim men came even during my 10yrs of waiting before marriage, after deliverance and prayers Muslim men were the ones I used to see and I will reject them, I used to tell them to convert to Christianity but they always refuse, when the same thing started happening my mother told me to give it a try because of time, I grudgingly agreed, but immediately I started receiving great revelations of great victories in the dream daily so I decided to convert to Islam, the first thing I noticed is that the constant sickness I used to experience vanished, I used to treat malaria or typhoid once in a month, even my mother was surprised, there is a particular situation in the family that has been threatening the peace of the family for long I had done several 3days dry fasting that God should solve it while I was a Christian without any result, my mother testify of it just 2months after I became a Muslim, I also noticed the heavy presence of the Holy Spirit while praying or in a mosque, I now understand why Christians have to sing for long before the Holy Spirit will manifest,Islam embodies holiness and that is why anyone who is not holy and goes to a Muslim domain is in danger, I used to have a couple friends who decided to travel to Iran for vacation they had barely step down from the plane when they fell seriously sick, they told me that many Christians have the same experience and some even dies, I will continue below with further analysis and comparison

I can smell lies