butterflyl1on:


They prove that there is intelligence behind the design and we term this intelligence to be God. You can claim it proves something else to you which isn't God but that's your opinion

ScepticalPyrrho:
Nope, the argument never ends... That proves God's existence cannot be proven by arguments.

vaxx:
ok...it is to broaden each other knowledge.... That is all...I don't argue to win...I learn

ScepticalPyrrho:
Maybe some other time, please.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Which God are you placing behind design?

Besides, the question of whether the universe is a product of intelligence or design is yet to be answered too.

butterflyl1on:


I do not need to place any God behind design. All I need to say is that God was responsible.

You who are very critical about which one should then go ahead and find out which one.

Intelligence and design has been answered. I for one has answered it and as a theist I am an authority in my own right to say that the universe was created based on inferred and empirical evidence which I am subject to.

A scientist may have their own "authoritative" claim but I do not have to subscribe to it simply because they assume that their own empirical evidence does not align with mine in most cases and mine does not align with theirs.

But I see beyond what they see and can draw inferences which support my own position from their own claim.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Everyone can say whatever they want.

I can't help you with this your problem.

If your methods are only verifiable by you. It isn't knowledge, but opinion.

Last time I checked everyone is free to believe anything they want.

butterflyl1on:


I like your last comment. Why then do your fellow atheists not realise this simple thing?

butterflyl1on:


I want to believe that your stupidity isn't genetic but cultivated.

Can you show me who denies atheists freedom from religion? This is a religious section. Atheists are not religious yet they are all over the place here jumping on every religious thread and you now make this nonsensical comment?

Ogbeni you better seek medical help or counselling for this your stupidity. It is already out of hand.

How can we deny atheists what they claim they are already free from?

JackBizzle:



You can be fired from a job if you're an atheist. That should be illegal
NYSC and hospital staff will abuse you if you want to leave the religion blank space empty on registration forms or worse put "atheist" and see what happens.
An atheist was put in an asylum right here in Nigeria by his family. Even police supported it. If not for humanists abroad, he would have been locked up as a mad man forever

JackBizzle:



You can be fired from a job if you're an atheist. That should be illegal
NYSC and hospital staff will abuse you if you want to leave the religion blank space empty on registration forms or worse put "atheist" and see what happens.
An atheist was put in an asylum right here in Nigeria by his family. Even police supported it. If not for humanists abroad, he would have been locked up as a mad man forever

butterflyl1on:


no wonder Nairaland is your safe haven.

You chose your path so deal with the consequences. Be bold enough to cancel religion and state you are an atheist. Afterall traditionalists refuse to swear by the bible or Quran so you can simply ask that they trust you without attaching anything as your anchor

The family that put the atheist in an asylum probably saw the devolution of his mental state which atheism caused Just like you whose atheism has brought dumbness.

There is always a downside to atheism same with other aspects of life. Learn to live with your choices and the consequences they bring.

#stop being a coward

JackBizzle:



Am I dreaming? Butterflyl1on made sense! Today must be a special day.

Cowards live longer. A lot of brave "unbelievers" have been separated from their necks in the North

butterflyl1on:


Yet they died believing. Brave is a state of acceptance and confrontation. Coward is a state of acceptance yet denial when it matters most.

Spot the difference?

vaxx:
this your post captured my mind... There is freedom of worship in Nigeria base on what we have in the constitution...

I have never witness any attack on atheist before though....

vaxx:
this your post captured my mind... There is freedom of worship in Nigeria base on what we have in the constitution...

I have never witness any attack on atheist before though....

dalaman:


Stop talking fantasy. The reality is very different.
Christians and Muslims are not allowed to worship freely in many parts of the countries. There are many parts of the north where christians are not a lower to build churches, same goes for muslims. There are some parts of the south where they are not allowed to build their mosques.

Proudgorgeousga:


ta which freedom ask Muhammad bala what happened to him in kano when he came out as atheist.

In fact say you are an atheist and run for election lets see what happens.

Or even as a traditionalist sef

dalaman:


Will you keep quiet. Go and tell your muslim Hausa neighbors that their prophet is mad and call him MohaMAD they way you always do here on nairaland and lets see how it ends.

butterflyl1on:


If you have been observant you must have read where I repeatedly stated that I have them as neighbours around my farm and they are mostly Fulanis and I sometimes take time out to preach to them. We sometimes end up arguing but when that happens I stop because my Hausa is not so good. However I do point out to them that MuhamMAD is not holy and he is not to be regarded as an acceptable example to anyone.

They do not like it when I say this but the more I say it the more they got used to my words so today we are friends and during their sallah they blessed me with enough ram meat.

You think say I be coward like Una?

butterflyl1on:


If you have been observant you must have read where I repeatedly stated that I have them as neighbours around my farm and they are mostly Fulanis and I sometimes take time out to preach to them. We sometimes end up arguing but when that happens I stop because my Hausa is not so good. However I do point out to them that MuhamMAD is not holy and he is not to be regarded as an acceptable example to anyone.

They do not like it when I say this but the more I say it the more they got used to my words so today we are friends and during their sallah they blessed me with enough ram meat.

You think say I be coward like Una?

vaxx:
let me tell you, you have the right in constitution to practice whatever you belive...society may reject you but the law protect you ...

JackBizzle:

dalaman:


Everybody knows he's a certified liar.

dalaman:

dalaman:


Everybody knows he's a certified liar.

JackBizzle:

butterflyl1on:


Of course the usual liar liar rant

If I had not said it here long ago that I have Hausas and Fulanis around my farm and they were even the ones who taught me Hausa and I mentioned during their sallah that they loaded me with ram meat to the extent I suffered constipation.

If I had not said all this long ago then yes I would have been a liar. But I said them.

You can go through my history as butterflylion and not butterflyl1on.

butterflyl1on:


Of course the usual liar liar rant

If I had not said it here long ago that I have Hausas and Fulanis around my farm and they were even the ones who taught me Hausa and I mentioned during their sallah that they loaded me with ram meat to the extent I suffered constipation.

If I had not said all this long ago then yes I would have been a liar. But I said them.

You can go through my history as butterflylion and not butterflyl1on.

dalaman:


So because you told lies long ago means what? Firstly, muslims do NOT live around pigs. You said you have a pig farm and Hausa people stay around your pig farm. That is a VERY BIG LIE. Hausa people do NOT want to see pigs around them. If you want to drive them away just rear pigs around and they will leave the area. Sighting pigs alone to them is Haram talk more of living around a pig farm. Haisa muslaims do NOT live near pigs at all. You are shameless. You think lying and imagining that you have Hausa neighbors around your pig farm who dash you sallah meat even after telling them that MuhamMAD is not holy and he is not to be regarded as an acceptable example to anyone will make us accept the lie abi