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Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:23pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
aribisala0:I know that in progressive federations consumption tax is collected by the states or federating units but here most things are tilted towards backwardness. Imagine that a some states would ban the sale of Alchohol but would take the lion share from alcohol tax. Let us be fair for once! |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 8:28pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
takenadoh:No not at all, as we speak, my next shipment is to Onitsha Port, for quick clearance, the port at One Rivers state takes a bit longer! |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by aribisala0(m): 8:29pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
happybrother:Consumption or sales tax policy cannot be separated from VAT policy. There are very many factors to consider. e.g external competitiveness. But I would not advocate a system where VAT policy allows for internal tax competition which to me would be a form of cannibalism.. I think an element of derivation should apply to its sharing though. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 8:32pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
aribisala0:Was that not what I was trying to say when you claimed VAT and Sales tax are same? can you charge sales tax twice on same goods?Now you are back to eat your own vomit,Anyway, Im off to the property and Auto Sections More senses there I guess. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by aribisala0(m): 8:37pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
erico2k2:You are contradicting yourself.. Empty vessel Tell us why Abuja is generating 20% of VAT . My business moghul 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by takenadoh: 8:37pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
erico2k2: Onitsha Port they are talking about dredging this and that and inland water way , concession agreement? |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 8:42pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
takenadoh:I have used it B4, two years ago, but I used One March this year, I think the Onitsha is faster |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 8:44pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
aribisala0:you and your lineage are Full of Empty vesels
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Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:45pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
TheKingIsHere: |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
FTrebirth: It's awa VAT sir, all states must get their share... |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by eebraa(m): 8:46pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
Pls what is VAT? And who carries the burden of VAT? |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:48pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
Biety: No Sire. Every state must share in the VAT. Or else FG would have to reopen Onne, Warri n Calabar seaports n Onitsha river port and also build a river port along river niger states like Kogi n benue. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:49pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 8:49pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
bolaji73: This man forgot his real sense @ home |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by confiritch(m): 8:52pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
The argument whether Value Added Tax (VAT) and Sales Tax mean the same thing need to be put to rest by reference to their historical background. Before 1st January, 1994 Sales Tax which is also known as Single State Tax was levied on some goods and services in Nigeria and covers only nine (9) categories of goods. The tax base was narrow and negates the fundamental principle of consumption tax which is expected to cut across all consumable goods and services. It is collected by State Government. On the 1st of January, 1994 the Federal Government of Nigeria replaced the Sales Tax with VAT which is also known as Multiple Stage Tax. It has a broader base and applies to the difference between total value of input and total value of output produced at each level of production to the final stage. Due to the difficulty in determining the actual value added, the difference between purchase price and sales price for each stage of production is adopted as the tax base. It is collectible by Federal Inland Revenue Service (FIRS) and the Government realised N8 billion in 1994. The tax rate is 5% in line with VAT (Amendment) Act, 2007. Time will not permit me to discuss Registration, Penalties, Exemption with relevant dates, Calculation and currency of remittance, Tax invoice particulars, Tax Appeal Tribunal and the Role of the Federal High Court. Meanwhile, the distribution of proceeds of VAT is 15%, 50% & 35% to FG, States (including FCT) and Local Governments respectively. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 8:55pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:Bross FG did not close Onne or Onitsha seaport, the only reason you do not know about them is cos you do not have any Biz there, the One and Onitsha ports are functioning,we do not have vessels carrying cars there atm thats the only let down.But soon Im very sure RO RO will soon land Onitsha and One ports and that will be bye bye to Lagos.As things stand people in the EU and US who live in teh SS and SE now fly straight to PHC no need going to Lagos. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 9:00pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
confiritch:Thank U very much ,now thats an enlightened Soul, just wait, they are coming, they will still tell you sales tax is same as VAT even when you have spelt it like ABC with references and dates! Now by ur above statement as per what VAT is would it not be safe to say the Lagos state governor was talking BS? |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 9:02pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
erico2k2: The flights are going straight to enugu international airport, not porthacourt. meanwhile onitsha river Port is dead. onne port has been converted to a naval base by OBJ. Warri n Calabar ports were all closed by FG as well. ""we do not have vessels carrying cars there atm thats the only let down"" pls don't say this again. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by sshalom(m): 9:04pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
Matters gradually getting to a head! |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 9:07pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:Why are you doing this to yourself, I fly to PHC every year since 2011,go on line and Book flight from London to PHC, use Lufthansa, KLM or Air France, see what you get.Non of these flight go to Enugu, there is no route there. I shipped a container to One port March this year, so waht are you saying, IM scheduled to do a shipment to Onitsha port as we speak,Speak of waht you know Bro no need for assumption
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Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by manmidtexy(m): 9:14pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
If God allow it. Tinubu will shock an disappoint most prostitute politicians by 2019 if the owner of life does not take it. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 9:51pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
erico2k2: Are u Bipolar |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by erico2k2(m): 10:02pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:nah i think you are, and also suffering from Multiple personality disorder>
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Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Nobody: 10:23pm On Oct 11, 2017 |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by okenta2017: 12:48am On Oct 12, 2017 |
SalamRushdie: You don't understand what is vat |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by SalamRushdie: 12:55am On Oct 12, 2017 |
okenta2017: There is nobody that understand VAT more than me in this world ..please I don't discuss with shallow people , I have already addressed VAT properly on this thread so look for my comments and learn |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by aribisala0(m): 3:32am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Sorry but that initiate and terminate stuff is nonsense really 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by aribisala0(m): 3:44am On Oct 12, 2017 |
confiritch: What is the relevance of this thesis. The argument is an artificial one and a needless distraction if people understand simple English. Everything I said about sales tax had to do with comparatives to jurisdictions outside Nigeria where VAT does NOT exist.It relevance lies in applications to international trade treaties and WTO. I am more interested in its effect rather than nomenclature Once again Sales tax in effect whereever you find it is a VAT . All cats are animals but all animals are not cats Yes there is more to VAT than Sales or consumption tax but sales tax is a VAT. It is typical of the undergraduate mindset to fixate on definitions rather than to think and manipulate ideas. Anyhow it remains an unnecessary distraction as it does not materially affect the real substance of this thread and only has egotistic value almost everything you say is true but changes nothing Hear yourself self on broader base: Yes the definition of Animal has a broader base than cat.Does that mean Cat is not an animal? It is only if I say all animals are cats that there is an issue AT NO POINT DID I SAY SALES TAX AND VAT MEAN THE SAME THING>NEVER Vat is the same as sales tax is quite different from Vat means the same as sales tax. The former is contextual and relative while the latter is absolute I could say a cat is an animal does not mean cat and animal mean the same thing people need to develop comprehension 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by deomelo: 3:46am On Oct 12, 2017 |
SalamRushdie: The man was talking about generated VAT on goods and services consumed in Lagos and not on VAT generated off goods and services consumed outside his state. What is embarrassing is you and your kind displaying gross ignorance and inability to read and comprehend simple and elementary English words. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by Splashme: 7:03am On Oct 12, 2017 |
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Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by SalamRushdie: 7:27am On Oct 12, 2017 |
deomelo: You are the one who doesn't understand anything , go through my comment on this thread where I gave an example using a generator I supplied out side Lagos ...The point I am making is that this claims of making more VAT is shallow , null and void and can't be a case for any form of special derivation for Lagos state .. |
Re: Lagos Can't Generate VAT And Others Take 50℅ - Ambode by aribisala0(m): 8:31am On Oct 12, 2017 |
Once again your submission is ignorant. Your Generator example is absurd.To pay VAT a company must register at AN ADDRESS. It is as simple as that . To the best of my knowledge Generators are not manufactured in Lagos. If a generator is imported through Lagos and sold elsewhere the VAT location is based on the registered address of the selling company. if the importer is in Onitsha he does not pay VAT but the buyer in Onitsha does and if the seller is registered for VAT in Onitsha the VAt is attributed to Onitsha If the company is not registered in Lagos then VAT is not attributed to Lagos. You do not pay VAT for importing goods. If the goods are VATable that is chaarged at point of sale There are however many parts of that generator transaction that could attract VAT in Lagos e.g handling loading insurance etc again i depends on where the company is registered. Again when the Generator reaches its destination. Unloading,installation and servicing are all VATable. THERE!! The truth is most VAT paying companies are in Lagos For someone who claims to know more about VAT than anyone in the world your ideas are very strange. |
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