Hmm see people advocating madness of communism in 21st century.

tsdarkside:


you yeasterners can stick democracy up una asses...the rest of us hate democracy...its not working....how long do you need to realize that??..

you are the same people crying that nothing is working although we are practicing democracy....your democracy is not working...

we dont want jonathans that make only very few rich,we dont want dinos that parade with expensive cars,we dont want okorochas that only understand how to build statues....

to hell with democracy....

That's why we need to split so u can practice what u love while we practice our republican system. We won't be forced/lumped into that military/communist bullshït

GiantParrot:


You need to fact check these claims you make. China today is communist in name only. Under Mao Zedong, the real communist China suffered wide spread poverty and death in the late 50s. The shift to capitalism has made China one of the largest economies in the world. Second only to capitalist America. It is capitalism that made China a manufacturing and exporting hub of the world today, having over 40 billionaires. How can a country having private business men as billionaires be communist, when communism implies the abolition of rights to personal property?

You can't seriously be thinking of North Korea as a role model. This one weak me.

By the way, Nigeria is only pretending to be democratic. Elections here are a farce, and the people and rulers (leaders don't exist here) have little interest in democratic governance.

china is still communistic.....the same way russia is still communistic till today...ask yourselfs how putin could become president again...in a democratic system,its not possible....but putin is still president....

freeze001:


That's why we need to split so u can practice what u love while we practice our republican system. We won't be forced/lumped into that military/communist bullshït

thats why i say,pack your things and go join other african nations that think like you...we nigerians are not africans like you,thats why we disagree in everything....i suggest you migrate to south africa....

tsdarkside:


thats why i say,pack your things and go join other african nations that think like you...we nigerians are not africans like you,thats why we disagree in everything....i suggest you migrate to south africa....

No one's gonna leave their ancestral lands for you. When d split comes, we all part with all that is ours down to the lands.

freeze001:


No one's gonna leave their ancestral lands for you. When d split comes, we all part with all that is ours down to the lands.

go claim lagos while leaving too....kiiikikikikikikiki...

tsdarkside:


go claim lagos while leaving too....kiiikikikikikikiki...

For what reason please?

freeze001:


For what reason please?

you said its no mans land.....you are not leaving without the delta anyways....kiiiikiiikiiiikikikikiiki....kogi na part of biafra....kikikikiki.....

am laughing sooo hard now i could pee my self...

Socialist system still remain the best

Jesusloveyou:
Socialist system still remain the best

is Socialist system not the same as communism...?...explain what you understand under Socialist system...??

tsdarkside:


thats why i say,pack your things and go join other african nations that think like you...we nigerians are not africans like you,thats why we disagree in everything....i suggest you migrate to south africa....

south Africa is too far for iPods to go, they can easily go to nearby Cameroon

tsdarkside:


is Socialist system not the same as communism...?...explain what you understand under Socialist system...??

a socialist system does not allowed a life leader like in north Korea.
In socialist system, the government provide for the citizens like Free education, free social amenities like water, light and transportation, and in many Case the government subsidies food.
Socialist system is the best form of government which also allowed the citizens to have their say and vote for whom to lead them, unlike in north Korea that does not provide for his citizens or to have their say, or to allowed election.

Democracy is not suitable for any 3rd world or underdeveloped country. it is meant for the developed countries. Africa should search for a system for government that is suitable for them, and that will support growth and eliminate corruption. we must not follow the west in everything they do. Our case study should be Asia.

Jesusloveyou:
a socialist system does not allowed a life leader like in north Korea.
In socialist system, the government provide for the citizens like Free education, free social amenities like water, light and transportation, and in many Case the government subsidies food.
Socialist system is the best form of government which also allowed the citizens to have their say and vote for whom to lead them, unlike in north Korea that does not provide for his citizens or to have their say, or to allowed election.

how long are you going to be subsidizing, check out Venezuela now, they are food riots everywhere.

communism makes the citizens lazy and the government can't be giving free stuff forever,

Jesusloveyou:
a socialist system does not allowed a life leader like in north Korea.
In socialist system, the government provide for the citizens like Free education, free social amenities like water, light and transportation, and in many Case the government subsidies food.
Socialist system is the best form of government which also allowed the citizens to have their say and vote for whom to lead them, unlike in north Korea that does not provide for his citizens or to have their say, or to allowed election.

what??..you are making no sense... ..........

humans will never accept that system....forget it....

free this,free that....forget it....you think i will allow you to come lodge in my house for free without doing nothing for it......nonesense...

SalamRushdie:


I am in shock !!! I have always suspected all of you to be communist and today you have confirmed it ..These are really dangerous times for Nigeria .How did we get to this point were we handed govt to a closet communist...I hate communism because it only wastes destinies.

And what is wrong with communism?, what is the difference between pre Communist Russia and China and Nigeria of today?.
So you don't know that GREED was the reason why communism was embraced by the poor in those days.
Anyway I know you are well informed, you dont need to be afraid of communism, are you no longer a Christian?.

7lives:


And what is wrong with communism?, what is the difference between pre Communist Russia and China and Nigeria of today?.
So you don't know that GREED was the reason why communism was embraced by the poor in those days.
Anyway I know you are well informed, you dont need to be afraid of communism, are you no longer a Christian?.

I am a die hard capitalist because of what I do , Communism doesnt fit into my purpose and plans

SalamRushdie:


I am a die hard capitalist because of what I do , Communism doesnt fit into my purpose and plans

and your capitalist system doesnt fit to ours too....what now..??...the best we can do now is to keep foreigners out of this matter and find a agreement with each other....anything else is war....you igbos shouldnt have gone to foreigners to clear this matter...that was a mistake...

we nigerians are not scared of the western world.....you must understand that....

tsdarkside:


thats not true...nigeria is not a island with limited resources somewhere in the atlantic....

Sarrki, always known for his poor grammar

tsdarkside:


china is still communistic.....the same way russia is still communistic till today...ask yourselfs how putin could become president again...in a democratic system,its not possible....but putin is still president....

I see a few things need to be made clear here.
Capitalism is an economic system that encourages private ownership of the means of production. The exchange of products in the capitalist free market is based on prices determined by how much value the buyers and the sellers place on the product. The main role of government in the capitalist system is the protection of individual rights to ownership of the means of production.

Socialism is state ownership of the means of production. In practice, it is basically a command economy. You'd find socialist governments nationalizing private property for administration by the state. This system is what Karl Marx claimed was going to be the intermediate phase between capitalism and communism.

Communism is an economic system that is supposed exist in a stateless society where the means of production is owned by the community. The rise of the proletariat in the socialist setting is expected to get rid of its ruling elite and force socialism to birth communism thereby creating a utopia where everyone owns everything, and each person works according to their ability but receives according to their needs.

What is the implication of the above? It is obvious that true communism has never been tried, at least since Marx' communist manifesto was published. Some would say this is so because true communism can never be tried. Socialism never gets to pave the way for communism. Why is this so? Some reasons could be

1. The state bureaucrats make everything inefficient over time, and there are no economic rewards to incentivize individuals towards making the system efficient. So scarcity becomes the norm in socialist societies in the long term.
2. The all powerful state leadership is made up of human beings. Those flawed creatures prone to addictions, of which power is among the most tempting. Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Naturally, these flawed humans among whom power is concentrated become dictators. It is what too much power does to people, and if you think about it, uprisings on account of economic scarcity are much more easier to crush in an authoritarian regime than in a democracy.

To place China of the last 60 years in proper context, it was socialist from the 50s to the 70s, even though the leaders proclaimed themselves communists. That's what the typical politician does - use tags that deceive the people into believing they care. The costly failures of socialism forced China to adopt a more capitalist model for their economy which has led to significant growth in the last 30 years. Although the dictatorship, a vestige of socialism, still somewhat exists in China today, the economy is very capitalist. Private individuals own a huge portion of the means of production.

Russia is not communist and has never been. The USSR was socialist, and the failures of socialism led to the perestroika reforms of the 80s. Russia is now a mixed economy with the dictatorial residues from socialism.

tsdarkside:


is Socialist system not the same as communism...?...explain what you understand under Socialist system...??

they are not the same

Only communism can ensure a no one left behind system