Edoloaded:
Hell no. we have no fucking affiliation with them except for the fact that one of their major oba's is a descendant of the Bini kingdom

Mumu, maybe you should mention the name of the oba. How many is the whole edo?

PVision2020:

common sense is indeed not common.
How will a sane man imagine that Oduduwa whose descendants, Yoruba's (both in and outside Nigeria) are over 50M came out from Ogiso of Benin with population less than 3M.

How on earth will Benin with landmass less than that of Ilesa kingdom alone be the progenitor of Oduduwa whose people occupy a landmass 30x that of Benin.

I'm not surprise though, ipob also believes that over 40M Igbo's are Jewish when the world Jewish population is less than 20M.

Even if you don't know basic SET theory that a SUBSET cannot be bigger than the Universal SET, you should ask yourself...
How can a goat give birth to an elephant?

You get time to engage edo man. Are those ones existing? All animals are called, snail like edo too dey show face. You no see say I no follow for the argument?

aybabz101:


i will ask u a qurstion-which culture out of the two influences the other? in edo state today, ppl bear yoruba names, your royal ruler is referred to as OBA and there are lot of yoruba cultures hidden in your ways of life(culturally). but thr yorubas are very distinct. no influnce of other culture except that of the Europeans which was general to all west african cultures.

for ur information the benin ppl have their own history abt oduduwa likewise the yorubas to. i am not present to witness d oduduwa regime so i dont know which is true. but if u read ur wiki very well, d so called oduduwa who came frm benin met a group of ppl in ile-ife already-the yorubas. that means the yorubas have been in existence before the arival of "benin oduduwa". and i can categorically tell u dat the word OBA is a yoruba word and does noy belong to the benin ppl.

The title of Oba was used after the Ogiso title and was created by Oba Oranmiyan, Benin Empire's first "Oba". Oba Eweka I, Oranmiyan's son, is said to have ascended to power at some time between 1180 and 1300. The Oba of Benin was the Head of State (Emperor) of the Benin Empire until the Empire's annexation by the British, in 1897.
source

Edo State needs and deserve big projects that will trigger massive economic growth to the state so the youths can be actively engaged. This is a brilliant initiative.

Congrats Edo State

Edopesin:

The title of Oba was used after the Ogiso title and was created by Oba Oranmiyan, Benin Empire's first "Oba". Oba Eweka I, Oranmiyan's son, is said to have ascended to power at some time between 1180 and 1300. The Oba of Benin was the Head of State (Emperor) of the Benin Empire until the Empire's annexation by the British, in 1897.
source

like i said ealier both side havr their own history. frm my own personal knowledge, oranmiyan is a typical yoruba ancestria name which belong to one of oduduwas sons.
also from ur research that was the oba of benin. mayb they have different implications to both cultures-i dont know.

it said d title was created (in benin kingdom) by oranmiyan i.e. u guyz have a title for ur royal family b4 the ascension of oranmiyan as the king. and frm my own knowledge, oranmiyan is one of oduduwas sons; so it is safe for me to say that the title is from yoruba kindom

aybabz101:


like i said ealier both side havr their own history. frm my own personal knowledge, oranmiyan is a typical yoruba ancestria name which belong to one of oduduwas sons.
also from ur research that was the oba of benin. mayb they have different implications to both cultures-i dont know.

it said d title was created (in benin kingdom) by oranmiyan i.e. u guyz have a title for ur royal family b4 the ascension of oranmiyan as the king. and frm my own knowledge, oranmiyan is one of oduduwas sons; so it is safe for me to say that the title is from yoruba kindom

now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

Edopesin:

now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

i didnt agree with you, what i said was that d title Oba was first used in benin kingdom by oba oranmiyan who in essence was one of oduduwas sons. which means there was a title the benin royal house was associated with before oranmiyan. and i believe that oranmiyan got this title by his assocuation with the yoruba tribe.
moreover if u click on oba in that in that particular sentence, it will clearly tell u dat the word oba is associated with thr yoruba ppl.

Edopesin:
now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

according to Wikipedia--- Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede, Great Prince of Ife, King of the Yoruba also known as Oranyan, was a Yoruba king from the kingdom of Ile-Ife [1] and although he was the last born, he became the prime heir to Oduduwa at his return to claim his father's throne. [2] According to Yoruba history, he founded Oyo as its first Alaafin at around the year 1300 and one of his children, Eweka I, proceeded to become the first Oba of the Benin Empire .--------
so clearly the yorubas own the word OBA

Edopesin:
now you AGREE that it was first used by a benin king

according to Wikipedia--- Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede, Great Prince of Ife, King of the Yoruba also known as Oranyan, was a Yoruba king from the kingdom of Ile-Ife [1] and although he was the last born, he became the prime heir to Oduduwa at his return to claim his father's throne. [2] According to Yoruba history, he founded Oyo as its first Alaafin at around the year 1300 and one of his children, Eweka I, proceeded to become the first Oba of the Benin Empire .-------- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan
so clearly the yorubas own the word OBA

Michael004:
Mumu, maybe you should mention the name of the oba. How many is the whole edo?

Hey the fact that you're a "mumu" doesn't give you the right to call others the same, hopefully you will understand

Edoloaded:
Hey the fact that you're a "mumu" doesn't give you the right to call others the same, hopefully you will understand

You are Mumu I said, cos if you aren't, you won't be saying nonsense. That why I didn't argue with you.

aybabz101:


according to Wikipedia---
Oranmiyan Omoluabi Odede, Great Prince of Ife,
King of the Yoruba also known as Oranyan, was a
Yoruba king from the kingdom of Ile-Ife [1] and
although he was the last born, he became the prime
heir to Oduduwa at his return to claim his father's
throne. [2] According to Yoruba history, he founded
Oyo as its first Alaafin at around the year 1300 and
one of his children, Eweka I, proceeded to become the
first Oba of the Benin Empire .-------- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan

so clearly the yorubas own the word OBA

Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned
to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka
the first as Oba of Benin. He met his father Oduduwa
who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all
properties had been shared and distributed among his
fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven
brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a
dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom
would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both
version of history agreed that the name Benin meant
"the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the
place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on
this

Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his
staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be
able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from
yearly harvest through out Yoruba land. With this,
Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all
the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom.
Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son
Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The
reason for this was unknown as this was against the
custom and tradition of giving priority to first child
or son who was Ila of Irangun. On the other hand,
could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to
challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed
the senior? This is something the present Orangun of
Ila should explain.

Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is
said until today that it is only one day that is free
of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made
public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one
of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to
be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of
tracing her background was captured and was to be used
as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared
because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was
against ritual requirement. The child from the woman
was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to
assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo
job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared
One"

After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was
invited to take over the job of his father, which was
primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional
ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had
succeeded in building an economically viable place at
Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of
government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it
would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife
to be involved in daily ritual sacrifices.

Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at
Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on
condition of this that Ooni the son of the slave
woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was
assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at
Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never
accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any
Yoruba gathering of Obas.

Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation
because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the
cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just
like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's
superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of
Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the
present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso
is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict
between Alake and Osile till date.

Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is
the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni
was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and
his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name
which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas
paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of
Oduduwa.

This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was
destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's
version as against the Omonoba Polopolo. Oranmiyan
was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his
brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten
percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he
would use force. He later appointed his
representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to
monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire
that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created
which was not properly coordinated. The new empire
grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and
was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval
history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started
slave trade to weaken opposition.

An administration like the British

Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and
could be likened to the British system of
Administration during the colonial government. The
empire expanded up to the present Benin republic.
Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the
Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly
Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered
Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never
looked for him. At least there was no record of
history of any transaction between father and son.
Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire
continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there
could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for
Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and
in our local dialect is a Benin word.

Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some
local hero started to emerge to challenge the
authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of
Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who
liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a
fearless Egba Kingdom.

Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by
the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas
as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke
ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British
Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from
Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of
Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of
Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani;
thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the
Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the
coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo
Empire led to the Yoruba Wars. The present Oyo town
has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new
creation to symbolise the memory of the Old.

The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of
southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative
slave trade and closeness to the white man. The
emergence of western civilisation further weakened the
Old Oyo empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants
of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of
it is Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town
continued to live in the memory of his ancestors'
glory of the Old Oyo empire

In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or
descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in
this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his
place in history and that of his senior brother
Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into
history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The
abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However,
can a son be greater than his father? or can a river
be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from
Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu,
which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history

Edoloaded:



Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned
to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka
the first as Oba of Benin. He met his father Oduduwa
who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all
properties had been shared and distributed among his
fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven
brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a
dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom
would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both
version of history agreed that the name Benin meant
"the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the
place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on
this

Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his
staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be
able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from
yearly harvest through out Yoruba land. With this,
Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all
the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom.
Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son
Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The
reason for this was unknown as this was against the
custom and tradition of giving priority to first child
or son who was Ila of Irangun. On the other hand,
could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to
challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed
the senior? This is something the present Orangun of
Ila should explain.

Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is
said until today that it is only one day that is free
of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made
public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one
of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to
be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of
tracing her background was captured and was to be used
as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared
because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was
against ritual requirement. The child from the woman
was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to
assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo
job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared
One"

After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was
invited to take over the job of his father, which was
primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional
ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had
succeeded in building an economically viable place at
Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of
government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it
would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife
to be involved in daily ritual sacrifices.

Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at
Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on
condition of this that Ooni the son of the slave
woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was
assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at
Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never
accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any
Yoruba gathering of Obas.

Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation
because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the
cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just
like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's
superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of
Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the
present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso
is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict
between Alake and Osile till date.

Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is
the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni
was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and
his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name
which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas
paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of
Oduduwa.

This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was
destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's
version as against the Omonoba Polopolo. Oranmiyan
was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his
brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten
percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he
would use force. He later appointed his
representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to
monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire
that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created
which was not properly coordinated. The new empire
grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and
was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval
history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started
slave trade to weaken opposition.

An administration like the British

Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and
could be likened to the British system of
Administration during the colonial government. The
empire expanded up to the present Benin republic.
Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the
Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly
Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered
Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never
looked for him. At least there was no record of
history of any transaction between father and son.
Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire
continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there
could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for
Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and
in our local dialect is a Benin word.

Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some
local hero started to emerge to challenge the
authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of
Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who
liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a
fearless Egba Kingdom.

Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by
the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas
as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke
ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British
Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from
Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of
Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of
Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani;
thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the
Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the
coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo
Empire led to the Yoruba Wars. The present Oyo town
has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new
creation to symbolise the memory of the Old.

The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of
southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative
slave trade and closeness to the white man. The
emergence of western civilisation further weakened the
Old Oyo empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants
of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of
it is Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town
continued to live in the memory of his ancestors'
glory of the Old Oyo empire

In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or
descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in
this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his
place in history and that of his senior brother
Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into
history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The
abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However,
can a son be greater than his father? or can a river
be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from
Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu,
which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history

oranmiyan grew up at ile-ife b4 his father sent him to benin to rule. he got frustrated with d benins and installed his son ewaka as king ...my point is the word OBA belong to d yorubas nt benin ppl

“There is sufficient economic justification for the Gelegele port and we will raise funds from the private sector to develop the facility. We do not believe that the federal government will stop or discourage Edo State from building a Port that is economically viable,” he added.

This is what credible, capable and dedicated leaders say and do. They go for it without waiting for and begging the FG or crying and shouting marginalization like some people love to do in Nigeria just because they have weak, lazy, vision less, spine less and incompetent village governors.

Michael004:
You are Mumu I said, cos if you aren't, you won't be saying nonsense. That why I didn't argue with you.

Grow Up Already Na? Whats With The Insult

This is a lie from the pit of hell. what is the source of this, please?

Edoloaded:



Oramiyan the last son of Oduduwa returned
to Ife from Benin after he installed his son, Eweka
the first as Oba of Benin. He met his father Oduduwa
who was very advanced in age and blind, more also all
properties had been shared and distributed among his
fifteen brothers and sisters. Alternatively, seven
brothers according to Oba of Benin, Oduduwa was at a
dilemma on what to do because he assumed Benin Kingdom
would be enough as Oranmiyan's inheritance. Both
version of history agreed that the name Benin meant
"the land of the annoyed" because Oranmiyan left the
place in annoyance. Again, Oba of Benin was right on
this

Oduduwa found an easy way out. He gave Oranmiyan his
staff as symbol to show his brothers and sisters to be
able to collect ten percent of revenue derived from
yearly harvest through out Yoruba land. With this,
Oranmiyan was able to collect over 150 percent of all
the returns throughout the uncoordinated kingdom.
Oduduwa also grudgingly agreed to allow his last son
Oranmiyan to be king at Ile Ife after his death. The
reason for this was unknown as this was against the
custom and tradition of giving priority to first child
or son who was Ila of Irangun. On the other hand,
could it be said that Orangun was too afraid to
challenge his junior brother or Oranmiyan was indeed
the senior? This is something the present Orangun of
Ila should explain.

Oduduwa was primarily a priest and voodoo man. It is
said until today that it is only one day that is free
of ritual worship in Ile Ife and the day is never made
public. Oduduwa took vacation just for one day. In one
of the ritual ceremonies where nobody was allowed to
be seen outside, a foreign woman of no means of
tracing her background was captured and was to be used
as scarifices for the gods. She was later spared
because she was found to be pregnant beside, it was
against ritual requirement. The child from the woman
was dedicated to the gods and act as a servant to
assist Oduduwa in his day-to-day ritual and voodoo
job. The child was named Ooni: meaning "this is Spared
One"

After the death of Oduduwa his son, Oranmiyan was
invited to take over the job of his father, which was
primarily ritual and voodoo, as well as traditional
ruler of Ile Ife. Oranmiyan refused because he had
succeeded in building an economically viable place at
Oyo Ile with administratively sound method of
government around the Oyomesi council in chief and it
would be degrading to leave this and move to Ile Ife
to be involved in daily ritual sacrifices.

Oranmiyan gave a condition that he must be buried at
Ife to symbolise his right to Ife thrown. It was on
condition of this that Ooni the son of the slave
woman that was captured and dedicated to gods that was
assisting Oduduwa continued the work of Oduduwa at
Ife. This is the reason why ALafin of Oyo will never
accept Ooni of Ife as a king or a superior in any
Yoruba gathering of Obas.

Ooni's assumed superiority was a British creation
because the King of England assumed a king at Ife, the
cradle of Yoruba, must be superior to all Obas just
like the British did in Abeokuta by imposing Alake's
superiority over other Obas at Abeokuta. In case of
Egbas, Sorunke who led the Egbas from Ibadan to the
present Abeokuta was from Oke Ona, where Oba Tejuoso
is the King. This is the reason why there is conflict
between Alake and Osile till date.

Oranmiyan was buried at Ife and not at Oyo, which is
the reason for the Opa Oranyan at Ife till today. Ooni
was not a true son or direct descendant of Oduduwa and
his title was not recognised. Ooni was just his name
which became his title. Ooni like other Yoruba Obas
paid duties to Oranmiyan during and after the death of
Oduduwa.

This practice stopped after the Oyo Empire was
destroyed. It is rather difficult to accept the Ooni's
version as against the Omonoba Polopolo. Oranmiyan
was a belligerent person. A war hero and where his
brothers and sister refused to give the yearly ten
percent duty as agreed with the staff of Oduduwa he
would use force. He later appointed his
representatives in each of the kingdoms of Yoruba to
monitor the returns, thus the creation of Oyo Empire
that led to the end of the kingdom Oduduwa created
which was not properly coordinated. The new empire
grew with amazing rapidity throughout West Africa and
was like the Ghana or Shonghai Empire of the medieval
history in the south of Sahara. Oyo Empire started
slave trade to weaken opposition.

An administration like the British

Oranmiyan's administration was the best in Africa and
could be likened to the British system of
Administration during the colonial government. The
empire expanded up to the present Benin republic.
Those who escaped the control of Alafin are the
Yorubas living in Benin Republic, which was formerly
Dahomey, On the East side, Oranmiyan never bothered
Benin Kingdom because of his son, and his son never
looked for him. At least there was no record of
history of any transaction between father and son.
Benin Kingdom continued to progress and Oyo Empire
continued to expand to the west coast. In Lagos, there
could not be a clash, it was a place of reunion for
Edo's and Yoruba it was said Eko, which is Lagos, and
in our local dialect is a Benin word.

Oyo Empire later suffered from over expansion and some
local hero started to emerge to challenge the
authority of the Oyo kingdom or that of the Alafin of
Oyo. Among them was the Lisabi Agboagbo Akala who
liberated the Egbas from Oyo Empire to create a
fearless Egba Kingdom.

Lisabi was never a king. In fact, he was murdered by
the Alake of Egbaland because of his popularity. Egbas
as a kingdom with its own National Anthem "Lori Oke
ati Pele" was merged with Nigeria by the British
Empire after 1914. In addition, Lagelu emerged from
Ibadan, Ogendegbe from Ijeshaland and Shou of
Ogbomosho and Ilorin through the deserter Chief of
Army Staff of Oyo who was killed by Alimi a Fulani;
thus, the end of Oyo Empire. The attack from the
Sokoto Caliphate from the North finally nailed the
coffin of the Oyo Empire.The collapse of the Oyo
Empire led to the Yoruba Wars. The present Oyo town
has nothing to do with Old Oyo town, it was just a new
creation to symbolise the memory of the Old.

The Egbas and Ijebus took over the control of
southwest towards the Atlantics because of lucrative
slave trade and closeness to the white man. The
emergence of western civilisation further weakened the
Old Oyo empire, the empire collapsed and the ruminants
of it can still be found at the old site. The irony of
it is Alafin of Oyo in the present Oyo town
continued to live in the memory of his ancestors'
glory of the Old Oyo empire

In conclusion, Ooni who is not a direct son or
descendants of Oduduwa cannot be considered viable in
this discussion, but Alafin of Oyo must examine his
place in history and that of his senior brother
Orangun of Ila the first son who had disappeared into
history because he never challenged Oranmiyan. The
abdication of the thrown is a loss of right. However,
can a son be greater than his father? or can a river
be greater than its source? The source of Yoruba from
Benin is very authentic than Saudi Arabia or Lamurudu,
which cannot be traced, in Saudi Arabian history

Michael004:
You are Mumu I said, cos if you aren't, you won't be saying nonsense. That why I didn't argue with you.

obviously you were brought up by one

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Edoloaded:
obviously you were brought up by one

Ok.

TrueSenator:
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Atall