Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

Tithe is not the most important thing, "woe be unto those who pay it and forget most important things"

Little wonders Jesus never practised it

Jesus Christ was speaking here and he was still under the Jewish religion of tithing. The pharisee act like they know it all that was why christ was scolding them. After the day of pentecost in acts 2, which also coincide with after the death of Christ, was the start of Christianity. Tithing was not practiced in Christianity and no apostle preached about it. Hope that helped?

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me in the knowlegde of the truth.

THE TESTAMENT OF GRACE BEGAN AFTER THE DEATH AND RESSURECTION OF CHRIST JESUS...

THE BLOOD OF JESUS RACTIFIED IT AND SET IT IN MOTION...DWELL NOT ON THE FORMER THINGS, FOR THE LAMB OF GOD HAS DONE A NEW THING.

slimjohn2k5:
Jesus Christ was speaking here and he was still under the Jewish religion of tithing. The pharisee act like they know it all that was why christ was scolding them. After the day of pentecost in acts 2, which also coincide with after the death of Christ, was the start of Christianity. Tithing was not practiced in Christianity and no apostle preached about it. Hope that helped?

Even with the bold part. Na wa oh.

Desyner:
Even with the bold part. Na wa oh.

The bold part only shows u that was the practice then. After christ death the bible preaches that a man should give as he purposeth in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

What do you have to say to this express command from Jesus in the first verses of Mathew 23

1.Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2.saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3.Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Do you do everything the scribes and Pharisees(who sit in Moses seat) command you to do as Jesus ordered?

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have
omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

Anyone that objectively watched that Linda Ikeji TV interview with Freeze,
will instanstly see that what preceded the bolded in that Mathew 23:23 verse was the ax Freeze had to grind

People just couldnt in the interview, see the woods for the tithes-tree

What's and who's responsible for witnessing these Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42 injustice, unfairness and life devoid of the love of God, that's what Freeze attacked
His Matthew 25:31-42 scripture exegesis about "The Sheep and the Goats" definitely went over most's heads

He talked about his travel to Romania,
and passionately wondered upon returning back why is religious Naija "jagajaja" compared to irreligious Romania

Someone over the weekend posted a thread showcasing Algeria, and this got viewers wondering what the heck is the matter with Naija

Freeze, in the interview, was vulnerable, was honest, admitted his flaws, showed his weakness and owned up to his other frailties
You watched genuineness, listened to no snake oil salesmen gimmicks,

Some difficult questions were posed to him and he didnt shy away from any but answered them all, off the cuff

slimjohn2k5:

The bold part only shows u that was the practice then. After christ death the bible preaches that a man should give as he purposeth in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity

How?

Wetin concern me?

SUNDAY SERMON: THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHING


I came across this piece on a Whatsapp page and it so represented my views on tithing that I could have written it myself. Please enjoy the read!

The Trial of Pastor Jones (Author unknown)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them.

How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor, I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis Chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you
Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in Chap. 3, Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: Well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding. Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge: By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11: For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ....
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ' am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.
Sentencing....... All Arise .....

The same thing they make of Luke 10:9-14, that Jesus no send tithers;

Luke 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Luke 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

That was b4 Jesus died,just like Jesus asked them to offer sacrifice

Luke 5:14
And he charged him to tell no man: but go, and shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing, according as Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

Now we dont offer sacrifices , likewise we dont tithe anymore

Tithing is the law which died with Jesus on the cross

Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Thats why Jesus nor the Apostles collected tithes
,
In fact if the yahoo pastors want to remain under the law of tithing, why not follow it all

God said that tithes is to be shared, but the yahoo pastors no wan hear

Deuteronomy 26:12
When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;

Dem no go hear that one, instead them go say blessings dey for tithes

All our blessings are now in Jesus, not some but all our blessings are in Jesus

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

yet the deceptive pastors go tell u say tithe to be blessed,when we already have Jesus

Tithing is DEAD

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

I think you don't really get the message that passage was trying to pass,because it got little to do with Jesus Christ endorsing tithing.
He's actually talking about the scribes and Pharisees [even the modern day Christians] neglecting a more important teachings like judgement,mercy and faith [ which are salvation, sanctification,The great commission etc ] and are more focused on tithing,offerings [ which could be likened to the prosperity gospel the modern church is preaching every now and then ].

You get the point now ?

The "weightier matters" like salvation of the soul, Christ impending judgement,we have neglected and are more focused on the gospel of prosperity,riches and wealth, which ought not to be so.
Which if you look deeper, it's actually true of the modern church.
Every now and then,the gospel is all about prosperity,even tithing , literally,with little or no emphasis on salvation , sanctification and Christ judgement.
Our focus is now on the "doing churches" and any church that try to lay emphasis on salvation , sanctification and Christ judgement is regarded as "boring church".

Desyner:
Even with the bold part. Na wa oh.

So you are tithing mint, anise and cummin now, right?

reallifegospel:


Pay your Tithe, then don't fail to do the most important things along with it.
Matthew 6:33
It's simple.

This guy, your lust for people's money is alarming. So even after all the rich information on this thread about why tithing is not for Christians you still wanna hold unto it?
Study the story of that pastor and judge someone posted above and receive sense. Or check chiedu's comment.
If you still are adamant then... It's a shame.
Just know that misguided church folks have woken up and it's not gonna be business as usual for you merchandisers.