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Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 9:12am On Nov 16, 2017
chikachike86:


But they don't flaunt it. Prophet T B Joshua has money in excess, but he's loved by many all because of his charity works that's commensurate to his wealth. Other GO's might be giving to the less privileged, the only problem that attracted this Nationwide condemnation is the way they display their wealth thereby insulting the sensibility of people. All this tithe problem can be traced to Oyedepo's brand of teaching on wealth which most pastors have come to embrace.

Doing some charity to cover up is not the issue. What portion of thier income is for charity? A church is supposed to spend at least 50% of thier income on charity in my opinion.

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Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 9:12am On Nov 16, 2017
most pastors re thieves....in a street you will see like 3redeem churches or lord of choosen churches in the same street ....like wtf ....lord chosen will to tell you to buy some kind of vex for 1000 naira ...that it will shield you from some kind of bad luck or accident or kidnappers or ritualist....they should come and try their luck near me...I will use my AMG benz to run them down anytime anyday..

they re too daft to see and notice that their GO's re thieves..its not like I dont love God...but due to how these pastors re behaving ..I rather pray at home...after all God listens to prayer said anywhere with pure heart...I will rather give my money direct. to the beggers on the street than giving it to a church in the name of tithe and. offerings...if christians were doing like those days where they do burnt offeeings...then thats preferable..but so far if I give my money and it doesnt float to the heavens...my brother am not giving...and remember Jesus had nothing not even a car, a house...yet in raise people from the dead and asked for nothing..he healed the sick and ask for nothing...he died for us on the cross and he only asked for our loyalty to him..he had nothing while he was on earth...son of God was living like a son of a mere carpenter..he was treated like a thief....he even told peter...leave ur fishing and follow me I will make you fishers of men...but here in Nigeria our own case is different...before this so called general overseer of churches started building their churches they were so poor, now they fly in private jets...like wtf..who got them those....these re the tithing and offerings they use in acquiring such but wen they re confronted they will say its business or their members got it to them...yet pope was giving a larmborgini worth 76 million naira amd he gave all to Africa...our pope doesn't like travelling in Convoy or private jets...he rejected all but the cabinets told him its by force...cos they cant lose him yet...pope. replied them.."am not Afraid to die while serving God..no matter your protection when the time comes i will answer the ultimate call pope said..they were all surprised ....but I understand them..pope john paul was shot by armed men in a time...now those thieves re catholic priests...God confronted them they confessed and it wasnt funny when God came for them.....the president of Uruguay is very simple...he drives a turtle car with no escorts..he has no property of his own both home and away..forbes confirmed that...such leaders are very few...there re 1in a 100 leaders like that...most GO's you cant see them...they behave like they re in a political office...so so appointment up and down...and only the rich could see them..if you re poor forget it......I have lived with a lord of chosen pastor whose container of goods enters like 3times in a month..he does business yet he is a pastor....even some Igbo fulltime business men, their containers enters once in three months and they re rich...guys can you see that ur tithes and offering are giving these thieves in the name of pastors some net worth worth millions of dollars...if you claim God called you..then serve him without anything....after all Abraham was ready to sacrifice his only son he got when is wife was 90years old...he didnt relent..then God made him father of us all...you cant do business and claim to be a pastor...you have to choose one...if you re a full time pastor serving God with all ur might and mind...u will notice that Food, clothing and shelter won't be ur problem and God will use u and do great things over all these thieves...native doctors ve casted so some of them are native doctors who opened churches cos the rate at which they do miracles ehn ... so its either you serve God or you do business... I will make sure in Hell...my Father torments them for eternity..special treatment painful tormenting.. not all us...i mean the 14billion people on earth re humans...giants were products of angels and women...some people re fallen angels demons...I cant. classify me..but am not one of the 14billion people but am a person..and I witness all that happens here..truly I tell you...my father is a good tormentor...I will make sure demons torment all ye fake pastors...not a single day must they rest in hell....well pastors, while you re stealing buying private jet...don't make mistake and die cos if any of you do so....I can't just explain the terror..but its something you all ve never heard of or seen of..I PROMISE YOU ALL
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by jacyhelen(f): 9:13am On Nov 16, 2017
adeolakemi:
check all those pastors ,they are of Yoruba/afonja extraction .anyone that still goes to a Yoruba church is a big fool

you wan come bring confussion for this lovely post baaa?
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by wickyyolo: 10:23am On Nov 16, 2017
Fayos1:
So you mean matt6:33 is only for pastor or what are you trying to say. They are rich, members are poor. Yet its called a church.

The pastors teach people what will make them prosperous, but few members actually don't practice what is preached that is why they face predicament.

I'm a Practicing Christian and I'm comfortable and happy.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 10:34am On Nov 16, 2017
wickyyolo:


The pastors teach people what will make them prosperous, but few members actually don't practice what is preached that is why they face predicament.

I'm a Practicing Christian and I'm comfortable and happy.

Being comfortable financially is not a prove of true Christianity. There are many comfortable muslim, juju server, ogboni men, Erckanker, grail messengers, Atheist etc

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Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by wickyyolo: 10:45am On Nov 16, 2017
life2017:


Being comfortable financially is not a prove of true Christianity. There are many comfortable muslim, juju server, ogboni men, Erckanker, grail messengers, Atheist etc

Yeah, thats their business.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by rejoice4eva(m): 11:09am On Nov 16, 2017
If only you people can dissipate the energy you are using here to ask your so called political gods and leaders questions about trillions they have stolen.
Some of you have suddenly turned to judges. Why can't you wait for God to judge?
After all these attacks and persecutions, are you contented and satisfied? No. You see nothing can demote the one God has promoted.
My advice: wait. let God judge them. As long as they are doing the will of God, you may as well be kicking against the thorns.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by roundman: 11:25am On Nov 16, 2017
rejoice4eva:
If only you people can dissipate the energy you are using here to ask your so called political gods and leaders questions about trillions they have stolen.
Some of you have suddenly turned to judges. Why can't you wait for God to judge?
After all these attacks and persecutions, are you contented and satisfied? No. You see nothing can demote the one God has promoted.
My advice: wait. let God judge them. As long as they are doing the will of God, you may as well be kicking against the thorns.
Guy wake up from ur slumber.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by rejoice4eva(m): 11:40am On Nov 16, 2017
roundman:
Guy wake up from ur slumber.
Are you safe and happy now? Repent before it is too late.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 12:01pm On Nov 16, 2017
life2017:
The Pope is a Head of State and the leader of over 1.6 billion catholics worldwide. All he needs to do to personally own 10 private jets is to ask his members to donate 80 cent each (That is 250 naira each) ; yet he flies Alitalia. He does not own a private jet. To own one private jet he only needs Catholic to donate 25 naira each.

The 419 scamming actors abi na "pastors" will give you all the excuses in the world about why they need 1 or 5 private jets to oversee their churches or businesses. They tell you owning a $50 million Gulfstream helps them administer their churches easily. This is coming from a pastor of a country where the citizens on the average live below $2 per day. These thieves must be exposed for who they are.

They prey on the fear, desperation and gullibility of their followers. If the Pope does not own a private jet, why should Nigeria pastor with majority poor congregation own one?

Now you know why your Daddy GOs will fight to their last breath someone like Daddy Freeze. He is threatening their means of livelihood.


Recently Lambogini of over £185000 (Aprox 90million naira) was donated to the Pope. He decided to sell it to use the money for charity with Africa as one of the beneficiary.

Note: Some of the Private Jet Nigeria pastors may not have come into the ministry with the mind to scam thier members. But however they have been highly influenced by the greedy ones in the course of trying to have what the greedy ones have. They ended up fallen astray.

Originally By Peter Adedoke post on facebook. The post has been edited by me.

Face ya work oooh.. face ya work.. if you know that some followers where once assassins.. you no go talk
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Gazzy88(m): 12:18pm On Nov 16, 2017
adeolakemi:
check all those pastors ,they are of Yoruba/afonja extraction .anyone that still goes to a Yoruba church is a big fool
mike okonkwo,Chris okotie,Chris oyakhilome,David ibiyeomie,Lazarus muoka,apostle suleman are all Yorubas abi? You really need a brain transplant urgently.

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Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by chikachike86(m): 1:41pm On Nov 16, 2017
life2017:


Doing some charity to cover up is not the issue. What portion of thier income is for charity? A church is supposed to spend at least 50% of thier income on charity in my opinion.

Guy most companies in Nigeria do not pay tax so its hard to ascertain how much they make. So you will have to understand that there's no way you can know how much tithe and offerings a church collects to deduce 50% of the amount.

Therefore, its safe to accept a Man of God who teaches the word, tax you less and give "significantly" to the less privileged and people that suffered misfortune in our society.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by chikachike86(m): 1:56pm On Nov 16, 2017
rejoice4eva:
If only you people can dissipate the energy you are using here to ask your so called political gods and leaders questions about trillions they have stolen.
Some of you have suddenly turned to judges. Why can't you wait for God to judge?
After all these attacks and persecutions, are you contented and satisfied? No. You see nothing can demote the one God has promoted.
My advice: wait. let God judge them. As long as they are doing the will of God, you may as well be kicking against the thorns.

Oga nobody's judging them, all I can see so far from comments of people is that of a man who wants to worship God but is refrained from doing so because of the approach of churches to tithe and offerings. Can you image that in some churches, if your tithe card is not up to date, you will not be accorded the full entitlement reserved for punctual tithe payer's.
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by adeolakemi: 1:57pm On Nov 16, 2017
Gazzy88:
mike okonkwo,Chris okotie,Chris oyakhilome,David ibiyeomie,Lazarus muoka,apostle suleman are all Yorubas abi? You really need a brain transplant urgently.
these names you mentioned don't live extra vacant life styles check out oyedepo,tunde bakare and Emmanuel adebayo
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by federal9: 1:58pm On Nov 16, 2017
Pascalville:
most pastors re thieves....in a street you will see like 3redeem churches or lord of choosen churches in the same street ....like wtf ....lord chosen will to tell you to buy some kind of vex for 1000 naira ...that it will shield you from some kind of bad luck or accident or kidnappers or ritualist....they should come and try their luck near me...I will use my AMG benz to run them down anytime anyday..

they re too daft to see and notice that their GO's re thieves..its not like I dont love God...but due to how these pastors re behaving ..I rather pray at home...after all God listens to prayer said anywhere with pure heart...I will rather give my money direct. to the beggers on the street than giving it to a church in the name of tithe and. offerings...if christians were doing like those days where they do burnt offeeings...then thats preferable..but so far if I give my money and it doesnt float to the heavens...my brother am not giving...and remember Jesus had nothing not even a car, a house...yet in raise people from the dead and asked for nothing..he healed the sick and ask for nothing...he died for us on the cross and he only asked for our loyalty to him..he had nothing while he was on earth...son of God was living like a son of a mere carpenter..he was treated like a thief....he even told peter...leave ur fishing and follow me I will make you fishers of men...but here in Nigeria our own case is different...before this so called general overseer of churches started building their churches they were so poor, now they fly in private jets...like wtf..who got them those....these re the tithing and offerings they use in acquiring such but wen they re confronted they will say its business or their members got it to them...yet pope was giving a larmborgini worth 76 million naira amd he gave all to Africa...our pope doesn't like travelling in Convoy or private jets...he rejected all but the cabinets told him its by force...cos they cant lose him yet...pope. replied them.."am not Afraid to die while serving God..no matter your protection when the time comes i will answer the ultimate call pope said..they were all surprised ....but I understand them..pope john paul was shot by armed men in a time...now those thieves re catholic priests...God confronted them they confessed and it wasnt funny when God came for them.....the president of Uruguay is very simple...he drives a turtle car with no escorts..he has no property of his own both home and away..forbes confirmed that...such leaders are very few...there re 1in a 100 leaders like that...most GO's you cant see them...they behave like they re in a political office...so so appointment up and down...and only the rich could see them..if you re poor forget it......I have lived with a lord of chosen pastor whose container of goods enters like 3times in a month..he does business yet he is a pastor....even some Igbo fulltime business men, their containers enters once in three months and they re rich...guys can you see that ur tithes and offering are giving these thieves in the name of pastors some net worth worth millions of dollars...if you claim God called you..then serve him without anything....after all Abraham was ready to sacrifice his only son he got when is wife was 90years old...he didnt relent..then God made him father of us all...you cant do business and claim to be a pastor...you have to choose one...if you re a full time pastor serving God with all ur might and mind...u will notice that Food, clothing and shelter won't be ur problem and God will use u and do great things over all these thieves...native doctors ve casted so some of them are native doctors who opened churches cos the rate at which they do miracles ehn ... so its either you serve God or you do business... I will make sure in Hell...my Father torments them for eternity..special treatment painful tormenting.. not all us...i mean the 14billion people on earth re humans...giants were products of angels and women...some people re fallen angels demons...I cant. classify me..but am not one of the 14billion people but am a person..and I witness all that happens here..truly I tell you...my father is a good tormentor...I will make sure demons torment all ye fake pastors...not a single day must they rest in hell....well pastors, while you re stealing buying private jet...don't make mistake and die cos if any of you do so....I can't just explain the terror..but its something you all ve never heard of or seen of..I PROMISE YOU ALL

I can't believe I read your comment from beginning to the end. E sweet die.

Make I re-read am again and again. E sweet die grin grin
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Gazzy88(m): 3:38pm On Nov 16, 2017
adeolakemi:
these names you mentioned don't live extra vacant life styles check out oyedepo,tunde bakare and Emmanuel adebayo
"okelenla chukwu" is that so?
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Lightening: 6:04pm On Nov 16, 2017
scribble:
The Vatican is worth like $100 billion

Catholic church is founded on a system of collecting money for prayer, redemption of souls, offering, forgiveness of sins etc from catholic faithful

Then merchandising. The sale of rosaries, candles, idols etc

All oyedepo dey sell na book, and white handkerchief

Why do u have a problem with a black system of wealth generation

My brother, you are terminally sick for spewing this rubbish. What happens to the endless offerings collected by pentecostal churches? They are all sent to heaven leaving the church shareholders to live off sales books and handkerchiefs. How many ship loads of that will he sell to be able to afford the scandalous luxuries they flaunt ?
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 6:28pm On Nov 16, 2017
federal9:


I can't believe I read your comment from beginning to the end. E sweet die.

Make I re-read am again and again. E sweet die grin grin
bro Tnks so much ...I just feel so Ange about it...its a pity that some people can't see what will happen to the bad person that have. done bad things to them...God said judgment...well wen judgment day come...our fathers , our mothers, our sisters, our brothers, even our husbands and wife would pass some of us while walking and we won't recognize them...we would only be recognize and be concerned. bout ourseleves...no won't even know any particular person on that day and thats the painful part I swear
Re: How The Pope Render The Argument Of Private Jet Pastors Useless by Nobody: 2:06pm On Nov 17, 2017
Pascalville:
most pastors re thieves....in a street you will see like 3redeem churches or lord of choosen churches in the same street ....like wtf ....lord chosen will to tell you to buy some kind of vex for 1000 naira ...that it will shield you from some kind of bad luck or accident or kidnappers or ritualist....they should come and try their luck near me...I will use my AMG benz to run them down anytime anyday..

they re too daft to see and notice that their GO's re thieves..its not like I dont love God...but due to how these pastors re behaving ..I rather pray at home...after all God listens to prayer said anywhere with pure heart...I will rather give my money direct. to the beggers on the street than giving it to a church in the name of tithe and. offerings...if christians were doing like those days where they do burnt offeeings...then thats preferable..but so far if I give my money and it doesnt float to the heavens...my brother am not giving...and remember Jesus had nothing not even a car, a house...yet in raise people from the dead and asked for nothing..he healed the sick and ask for nothing...he died for us on the cross and he only asked for our loyalty to him..he had nothing while he was on earth...son of God was living like a son of a mere carpenter..he was treated like a thief....he even told peter...leave ur fishing and follow me I will make you fishers of men...but here in Nigeria our own case is different...before this so called general overseer of churches started building their churches they were so poor, now they fly in private jets...like wtf..who got them those....these re the tithing and offerings they use in acquiring such but wen they re confronted they will say its business or their members got it to them...yet pope was giving a larmborgini worth 76 million naira amd he gave all to Africa...our pope doesn't like travelling in Convoy or private jets...he rejected all but the cabinets told him its by force...cos they cant lose him yet...pope. replied them.."am not Afraid to die while serving God..no matter your protection when the time comes i will answer the ultimate call pope said..they were all surprised ....but I understand them..pope john paul was shot by armed men in a time...now those thieves re catholic priests...God confronted them they confessed and it wasnt funny when God came for them.....the president of Uruguay is very simple...he drives a turtle car with no escorts..he has no property of his own both home and away..forbes confirmed that...such leaders are very few...there re 1in a 100 leaders like that...most GO's you cant see them...they behave like they re in a political office...so so appointment up and down...and only the rich could see them..if you re poor forget it......I have lived with a lord of chosen pastor whose container of goods enters like 3times in a month..he does business yet he is a pastor....even some Igbo fulltime business men, their containers enters once in three months and they re rich...guys can you see that ur tithes and offering are giving these thieves in the name of pastors some net worth worth millions of dollars...if you claim God called you..then serve him without anything....after all Abraham was ready to sacrifice his only son he got when is wife was 90years old...he didnt relent..then God made him father of us all...you cant do business and claim to be a pastor...you have to choose one...if you re a full time pastor serving God with all ur might and mind...u will notice that Food, clothing and shelter won't be ur problem and God will use u and do great things over all these thieves...native doctors ve casted so some of them are native doctors who opened churches cos the rate at which they do miracles ehn ... so its either you serve God or you do business... I will make sure in Hell...my Father torments them for eternity..special treatment painful tormenting.. not all us...i mean the 14billion people on earth re humans...giants were products of angels and women...some people re fallen angels demons...I cant. classify me..but am not one of the 14billion people but am a person..and I witness all that happens here..truly I tell you...my father is a good tormentor...I will make sure demons torment all ye fake pastors...not a single day must they rest in hell....well pastors, while you re stealing buying private jet...don't make mistake and die cos if any of you do so....I can't just explain the terror..but its something you all ve never heard of or seen of..I PROMISE YOU ALL

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