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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by mujahid777(m): 8:06pm On Nov 18, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Did you fail to understand his point?

After all the things you listed, can you say Jesus remained dead?

No, cos he rose on the third day and is still alive till today.

Isn't that more than normal?
We shall all eventually die and be risen,so what makes your so-called god any different from mortals.Nonsense!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:08pm On Nov 18, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Many people.

His disciples, His mother, Roman soldiers etc.

Who saw Mohammad speak with angel Jibril?

Only special people appointed by Allah can see Angels.

Satan tempted Jesus and no one saw it. You just believe yet you can't believe this? You are biased!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:13pm On Nov 18, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
He rose on the third day as he predicted.

Who will raise you up when you die?

from Friday evening till Sunday morning can be called three days? ok

Who raised Jesus?
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 9:53pm On Nov 18, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


from Friday evening till Sunday morning can be called three days? ok

Who raised Jesus?
I asked you a question. Answer that first then I will answer this.

Who will raise you up when you die?
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 10:03pm On Nov 18, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Only special people appointed by Allah can see Angels.

Satan tempted Jesus and no one saw it. You just believe yet you can't believe this? You are biased!
Yes, no one saw it but he told his disciples who went ahead to record the event.

Now, why would anyone want to disbelieve that such happened to a man who raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, fed 5000 people, walked on water amongst other mighty miracles he performed?

There was no way his disciples could doubt him after seeing the works he did e.g driving out demons who are Satan's stooges.

Now, Mohammad the terrorist claims he met an entity whom he couldn't identify. Dude was scared stiff that he said it was a demon cos the entity strangled him almost to the point of death. It took a man called waraqah and his gigolo wife, Khadija before he could have a name for the entity which they called angel Gabriel. How did they know it was Gabriel when they never saw him nor likened his modus operandi to the strange way that entity appeared to Mohammad?

If Mohammad had truly encountered an angel and not a demon, then he would have been able to perform miracles. There was nothing special about the man whom the Quran called the best of mankind. The best of mankind that was scared stiff when. he experienced an eclipse which he thought was the coming judgment day. The best of mankind who gave a wrong formula to farmers thereby making them rake in huge loss. The best of mankind who was ejaculating into a 6yr old girl's thigh.

Only deceived people believed such a man met an angel and not a demon.

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 10:04pm On Nov 18, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Only special people appointed by Allah can see Angels.

Satan tempted Jesus and no one saw it. You just believe yet you can't believe this? You are biased!
Yes, no one saw it but he told his disciples who went ahead to record the event.

Now, why would anyone want to disbelieve that such happened to a man who raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, fed 5000 people, walked on water amongst other mighty miracles he performed?

There was no way his disciples could doubt him after seeing the works he did e.g driving out demons who are Satan's stooges.

Now, Mohammad the terrorist claims he met an entity whom he couldn't identify. Dude was scared stiff that he said it was a demon cos the entity strangled him almost to the point of death. It took a man called waraqah and his gigolo wife, Khadija before he could have a name for the entity which they called angel Gabriel. How did they know it was Gabriel when they never saw him nor likened his modus operandi to the strange way that entity appeared to Mohammad?

If Mohammad had truly encountered an angel and not a demon, then he would have been able to perform miracles. There was nothing special about the man whom the Quran called the best of mankind. The best of mankind that was scared stiff when. he experienced an eclipse which he thought was the coming judgment day. The best of mankind who gave a wrong formula to farmers thereby making them rake in huge loss. The best of mankind who was ejaculating into a 6yr old girl's thigh.

Only deceived people believed such a man met an angel and not a demon.

Only fools continue to believe that a man who gave a wrong advice to farmers truly met an angel of God.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 10:05pm On Nov 18, 2017
mujahid777:

We shall all eventually die and be risen,so what makes your so-called god any different from mortals.Nonsense!
Who will raise you up when you die?

Answer that question and don't hide from it like rashduct4luv
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by mujahid777(m): 10:07pm On Nov 18, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Who will raise you up when you die?
Answer that question and don't hide from it like rashduct4luv
God of course
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 10:10pm On Nov 18, 2017
mujahid777:

God of course
Since Jesus raised the dead and also raised himself from the dead, then it means he's God and the one to raise you up and others up for judgment.

Can we all now see why rashduct4luv has been running away from answering the question this Guy just answered? He knew he would be admitting that Jesus is God.

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by mujahid777(m): 10:18pm On Nov 18, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Since Jesus raised the dead and also raised himself from the dead, then it means he's God and the one to raise you up and others up for judgment.

Can we all now see why rashduct4luv has been running away from answering the question this Guy just answered? He knew he would be admitting that Jesus is God.
Didn't Elijah and Elisha also raise the dead undecided
For someone to die,how can he be God
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 6:42am On Nov 19, 2017
mujahid777:

Didn't Elijah and Elisha also raise the dead undecided
For someone to die,how can he be God

Did Elijah and Elisha rise from the dead? No.

Jesus was God's manifestation in flesh. That flesh was capable of dying but the God's manifestation can't die.

You Muslims say the Quran is the eternal word of Allah. This means Allah's word entered into ink and paper. This alone renders his eternal word capable of getting destroyed. Such can happen if I burn the Quran. That doesn't mean Allah's word was destroyed. It's just the paper and ink that got destroyed.

Now, both the Bible and the Quran affirm that Jesus is the WORD of God in flesh. This means that flesh can die just as the Quran can burn. But the fact that Jesus is the Word of God in flesh made that flesh capable of resurrection.

So, God didn't die. His Word in flesh was what died but resurrected

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:49am On Nov 20, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Yes, no one saw it but he told his disciples who went ahead to record the event.

Now, why would anyone want to disbelieve that such happened to a man who raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, fed 5000 people, walked on water amongst other mighty miracles he performed?

There was no way his disciples could doubt him after seeing the works he did e.g driving out demons who are Satan's stooges.

Now, Mohammad the terrorist claims he met an entity whom he couldn't identify. Dude was scared stiff that he said it was a demon cos the entity strangled him almost to the point of death. It took a man called waraqah and his gigolo wife, Khadija before he could have a name for the entity which they called angel Gabriel. How did they know it was Gabriel when they never saw him nor likened his modus operandi to the strange way that entity appeared to Mohammad?

If Mohammad had truly encountered an angel and not a demon, then he would have been able to perform miracles. There was nothing special about the man whom the Quran called the best of mankind. The best of mankind that was scared stiff when. he experienced an eclipse which he thought was the coming judgment day. The best of mankind who gave a wrong formula to farmers thereby making them rake in huge loss. The best of mankind who was ejaculating into a 6yr old girl's thigh.

Only deceived people believed such a man met an angel and not a demon.

By their fruits you shall know them! Why would you in order to prove a point just abuse as you deem fit? It's like you are uncouth and ill-bred! What does gigolo mean? Khadijah is our Mother in Islam and as you abuse our Mother...i have a right to now abuse your mother! If you can't sensibly drive home your point it's better not to reply me again! If this was how Jesus preached when he was alive, would there have been anyone else left....

You just call yourself a christian you are not christlike at all. Infact you are disgrace to christianity!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:01am On Nov 20, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Since Jesus raised the dead and also raised himself from the dead, then it means he's God and the one to raise you up and others up for judgment.

Can we all now see why rashduct4luv has been running away from answering the question this Guy just answered? He knew he would be admitting that Jesus is God.

You got it all wrong!

Someone who is called God is not born by his creation! Mary is the Mother of God (as the Catholics chant..)right!

If Jesus died, when he died where and how was he? Can you explain the meaning of Jesus (God) died?

Why the need to raise himself up?


This story is just like any other deities or idols like (Amadioha, Ogun, Sango, Oya, etc) who were said to be once human and after their death!
people started worshiping them!

Allah is far above what you ascribe...
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:20am On Nov 20, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Yes, no one saw it but he told his disciples who went ahead to record the event.

Now, why would anyone want to disbelieve that such happened to a man who raised the dead, gave sight to the blind, healed the sick, fed 5000 people, walked on water amongst other mighty miracles he performed?

There was no way his disciples could doubt him after seeing the works he did e.g driving out demons who are Satan's stooges.

Now, Mohammad the terrorist claims he met an entity whom he couldn't identify. Dude was scared stiff that he said it was a demon cos the entity strangled him almost to the point of death. It took a man called waraqah and his gigolo wife, Khadija before he could have a name for the entity which they called angel Gabriel. How did they know it was Gabriel when they never saw him nor likened his modus operandi to the strange way that entity appeared to Mohammad?

If Mohammad had truly encountered an angel and not a demon, then he would have been able to perform miracles. There was nothing special about the man whom the Quran called the best of mankind. The best of mankind that was scared stiff when. he experienced an eclipse which he thought was the coming judgment day. The best of mankind who gave a wrong formula to farmers thereby making them rake in huge loss. The best of mankind who was ejaculating into a 6yr old girl's thigh.

Only deceived people believed such a man met an angel and not a demon.

1. Where did Jesus told his disciples about Satan tempting him?

2. So many Miracles can not make someone important as even false Prophets can do miracles.

Matthew 24:24
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.


3. And for the rest of your lies and rantings, I will keep telling you this "the way angel Allah makes appear to humans differs" If an angel appears as a man then there'll be no problem. But if an angel appears in his form, there's bound to be a kind of disturbance to our nature!

4. Can you bring evidence that our Mother Khadijah was a Gigolo? (Mind you if you can't...then the title of gigolo goes to your Mum).

5. Bring Evidence for our Prophet sleeping with a 6yr old! May you Perish if you lied as the verse below says:

Proverbs 19:9 "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish."
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 4:11am On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


1. Where did Jesus told his disciples about Satan tempting him?
This is a stupid question. Perhaps, the next thing you'll do is to ask for the color of the cloth he and his disciples wore on that day.


Rashduct4luv:

2. So many Miracles can not make someone important as even false Prophets can do miracles.

Matthew 24:24
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

So, you even believe in the Bible, yet you Muslims claim it is a corrupted book. How are you sure it is nothing of the corrupted verses you quoted?

That aside, the Verse wasn't talking about miracles. Signs and wonders are different from miracles. Mohammad did lots of signs and wonders by killing thousands of people. Now, how does that relate to miracles?


Rashduct4luv:

3. And for the rest of your lies and rantings, I will keep telling you this "the way angel Allah makes appear to humans differs" If an angel appears as a man then there'll be no problem. But if an angel appears in his form, there's bound to be a kind of disturbance to our nature!
The same Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary, a woman and she was not afraid. He appeared in his Angelic form. So, why would the same Angel Gabriel and his form scare Mohammad, a man? Why would the angel scare him by strangling his neck against the wall when he only came to deliver God's message? That shows you that it was a demon he encountered


Rashduct4luv:

4. Can you bring evidence that our Mother Khadijah was a Gigolo? (Mind you if you can't...then the title of gigolo goes to your Mum).
Khadija was over 40 when Mohammad married her at 25. Mohammad was the gigolo.


Rashduct4luv:

5. Bring Evidence for our Prophet sleeping with a 6yr old! May you Perish if you lied as the verse below says:

Proverbs 19:9 "A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish."
Sahih Muslim 8:3309

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.


Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and USED TO handle ME. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 4:18am On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


You got it all wrong!

Someone who is called God is not born by his creation! Mary is the Mother of God (as the Catholics chant..)right!

If Jesus died, when he died where and how was he? Can you explain the meaning of Jesus (God) died?

Why the need to raise Himself up?


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God entered a burning bush to reveal himself to Moses. Isn't that God entering His creation, a bush? God's presence was in the ark of the covenant. Yet, you find it hard that he would assume flesh and blood?

Mary was the ark of the covenant cos she carried God's presence.

I already explained, but your blind and deceived self won't allow you see it.

Jesus was God's manifestation in flesh. That flesh was capable of dying but the God's manifestation can't die.

You Muslims say the Quran is the eternal word of Allah. This means Allah's word entered into ink and paper. This alone renders his eternal word capable of getting destroyed. Such can happen if I burn the Quran. That doesn't mean Allah's word was destroyed. It's just the paper and ink that got destroyed.

Now, both the Bible and the Quran affirm that Jesus is the WORD of God in flesh. This means that flesh can die just as the Quran can burn. But the fact that Jesus is the Word of God in flesh made that flesh capable of resurrection.

So, God didn't die. His Word in flesh was what died but resurrected.

He needed to raise himself up so as to conquer death. Without the conquering of death, hope is lost for mankind. Only he who conquered that can resurrected others.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:24am On Nov 21, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
God entered a burning bush to reveal himself to Moses. Isn't that God entering His creation, a bush? God's presence was in the ark of the covenant. Yet, you find it hard that he would assume flesh and blood?

Mary was the ark of the covenant cos she carried God's presence.

I already explained, but your blind and deceived self won't allow you see it.

Jesus was God's manifestation in flesh. That flesh was capable of dying but the God's manifestation can't die.

You Muslims say the Quran is the eternal word of Allah. This means Allah's word entered into ink and paper. This alone renders his eternal word capable of getting destroyed. Such can happen if I burn the Quran. That doesn't mean Allah's word was destroyed. It's just the paper and ink that got destroyed.

Now, both the Bible and the Quran affirm that Jesus is the WORD of God in flesh. This means that flesh can die just as the Quran can burn. But the fact that Jesus is the Word of God in flesh made that flesh capable of resurrection.

So, God didn't die. His Word in flesh was what died but resurrected.

He needed to raise himself up so as to conquer death. Without the conquering of death, hope is lost for mankind. Only he who conquered that can resurrected others.

Firstly, the way we interprete "word of God" as being ascribed to Jesus son of Mary is different from your own...

Word of Allah means he was formed by the command of Allah! This same way Adam was formed!

I think this your philosophy is absurd. Your God had to enter the bush for it to burn? Your God had to enter the ark of covenant for people to feel his presence?

Now i understand!

Your God had to live inside his creation for about 9 months and then be born to save his creations? Your God drank milk from his mum's breast and was nurtured till he grew up. Even Joseph and Mary (Your God's foster father and your God's Mother) had to be warned to run away from the evil king as your God was still small and couldn't protect himself!
Your God became human and lost (some of) his mojo He was able to heal diseases and quicken the dead but he could not know the date of the hour. It is when he unites with his father in heaven then he gets back his full mojo!
Your God who is the creator now died for his creations' salvation! How can death who is one of God's creation kill his creator?
After God was killed he now arouse after like 3 days (as they say) and he has conquered death (his creation).
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:33am On Nov 21, 2017
alBHAGDADI:

This is a stupid question. Perhaps, the next thing you'll do is to ask for the color of the cloth he and his disciples wore on that day.



So, you even believe in the Bible, yet you Muslims claim it is a corrupted book. How are you sure it is nothing of the corrupted verses you quoted?

That aside, the Verse wasn't talking about miracles. Signs and wonders are different from miracles. Mohammad did lots of signs and wonders by killing thousands of people. Now, how does that relate to miracles?



The same Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary, a woman and she was not afraid. He appeared in his Angelic form. So, why would the same Angel Gabriel and his form scare Mohammad, a man? Why would the angel scare him by strangling his neck against the wall when he only came to deliver God's message? That shows you that it was a demon he encountered



Khadija was over 40 when Mohammad married her at 25. Mohammad was the gigolo.



Sahih Muslim 8:3309

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.


Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and USED TO handle ME. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).

Starting from where you ended, So did the Prophet now slept with a 6 yr old when clearly you said she was brought to his house by 9 yrs?

I knew you are a big liar! Make research on the age Rebecca was married to Isaac!

On our mother Khadijah,

A gigolo is a man who is being paid money for sexual relationship!

how can a woman be a gigolo? As i told you before, you lack manners and you don't even know the meaning of what you are saying!
Is it a sin for an older woman to marry a younger man?

Yes i believe the Bible contains words ascribed to God, words of men, words of wisdom, words of fools, obscene words, pornography, etc.

Did the Bible clearly state that Mary saw the angel in their true form?

Well, Qur'an states that he appeared in a man's form and this i believe.

You made a claim Jesus told his disciples that he was tempted by Satan but you cant extrapolate that Muhammad may have told his followers too about his meetings with the angel!

I shake head for you!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by enilove(m): 10:39am On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Firstly, the way we interprete "word of God" as being ascribed to Jesus son of Mary is different from your own...

Word of Allah means he was formed by the command of Allah! This same way Adam was formed!

I think this your philosophy is absurd. Your God had to enter the bush for it to burn? Your God had to enter the ark of covenant for people to feel his presence?

Now i understand!

Your God had to live inside his [color=#990000]creation for about 9 months and then be born to save his creations? Your God drank milk from his mum's breast and was nurtured till he grew up. Even Joseph and Mary (Your God's foster father and your God's Mother) had to be warned to run away from the evil king as your God was still small and couldn't protect himself!
Your God became human and lost (some of) his mojo He was able to heal diseases and quicken the dead but he could not know the date of the hour. It is when he unites with his father in heaven then he gets back his full mojo!
Your God who is the creator now died for his creations' salvation! How can death who is one of God's creation kill his creator?
After God was killed he now arouse after like 3 days (as they say) and he has conquered death (his creation).[/color]



If you could not believe Jesus who gave life to the dead , gave sight to the blind , walked on the water etc , why did you believe Muhammed who killed innocent people , took his son's wife married a child of 6 years , married his mother's age, got Islam spread through terror and could not show a single sign of miracle but was only given sexual power of 30 men who told you that hell is your portion when you die ?
It is a pity.

Jesus testimony :

Mark 4:36-41 KJV
And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.
[37] And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.
[38] And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?
[39] And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
[40] And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
[41] And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?

Muhammed's testimony
Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Bukhari
Narrated Qatada:

Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas

Sahin Muslim
Book number 3243
Abdullah ( b. Mas'ud ) reported : We were on an expedition with Muhammed and we had no women with us. We said; should we not have ourselves castrated? He ( Muhammed ) forbade us to do so. He then granted us permission that we should contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment , then Abdullah then recited this verse........

Which true God will permit these ?

You have chosen. The consequence , heaven or hell you will reap when there won't be amendments.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by TheLogicalMind(m): 12:43pm On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Thanks for this and i would be glad if you can accept my response and not dwell on this opinion.

With regard to worldly matters: this happened to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). With regard to agriculture, medicine, carpentry, etc., he was like all other people. Allaah did not tell us that he was sent to us as a businessman or a farmer or a carpenter or a doctor. His mistakes in these fields are quite natural and do not impact on his Message at all.

We note that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made a mistake in this worldly matter, because he was like all other human beings, but with regard to matters of religion he did not make mistakes.


And we do not deny that our Prophet was mortal and a human being just like other Prophets/Messengers before him (like Abraham, Noah, Jesus and others Peace be upon them all). Prophets may commit minor sins but never major sins!

Only Allah is far from making mistakes and immortal!

Ha ha ha

Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 1:06pm On Nov 21, 2017
TheLogicalMind:


Ha ha ha

Yes he was charmed and was later healed by the revelation of two Surahs Chapter 113 and 114 of the Qur'an which can be used to cure such illnesses today!

And i see nothing wrong in sleeping with one's wives one at a time in such way!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by TheLogicalMind(m): 1:31pm On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Yes he was charmed and was later healed by the revelation of two Surahs Chapter 113 and 114 of the Qur'an which can be used to cure such illnesses today!

And i see nothing wrong in sleeping with one's wives one at a time in such way!

A true prophet serving a real God would never have been charmed in the first place.

As for sleeping with wives shouldn't a prophet be a man of self denial who is above the simple pleasures of the flesh? Your "prophet" was indeed a very carnal man. Unlike Jesus and John The Baptist who lived lives of abstinence and devotion God's will.

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 2:09pm On Nov 21, 2017
TheLogicalMind:


A true prophet serving a real God would never have been charmed in the first place.

As for sleeping with wives shouldn't a prophet be a man of self denial who is above the simple pleasures of the flesh? Your "prophet" was indeed a very carnal man. Unlike Jesus and John The Baptist who lived lives of abstinence and devotion God's will.

TheLogicalMind Please answer this logically!

Why did God Allow Noah to be a drunkard in the Bible?

Why did God in the Bible saved Lot, killed his wife and later allow Lot's daughters to sleep with their father? Is it that God did not know the future or he just wish to permit incest?

On Marriage and wives

Why did God say "be fruitful and Multiply"?

Why did the Gods of the Bible allow Abraham the father of faith to have more than one wife!

Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines.

David had multiple wives. Most Popular Prophets from the old testament had multiple wives. why?

And never anywhere does the Bible forbid marriage. Jesus and John not marrying is because they were not destined to marry!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by TheLogicalMind(m): 2:36pm On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


TheLogicalMind Please answer this logically!

Why did God Allow Noah to be a drunkard in the Bible?

Why did God in the Bible saved Lot, killed his wife and later allow Lot's daughters to sleep with their father? Is it that God did not know the future or he just wish to permit incest?

On Marriage and wives

Why did God say "be fruitful and Multiply"?

Why did the Gods of the Bible allow Abraham the father of faith to have more than one wife!

Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines.

David had multiple wives. Most Popular Prophets from the old testament had multiple wives. why?

And never anywhere does the Bible forbid marriage. Jesus and John not marrying is because they were not destined to marry!



[b]Please get your facts straight. Abraham was only ever married to one woman at a time. There was never a time in Abraham’s life when he had up to two wives at the same time. After his first wife Sarah passed away because of old age, Abraham married a woman called Keturah. Hagar was not Abraham’s wife, she was simply a surrogate whose only purpose was to provide Abraham with an heir. So Abraham is exempt from your list of polygamists.

As for all the others, such as Solomon, David, Lot, it is only MOOslims who regard them as “prophets.” Your illiterate “prophet” Muhammad had a hard time distinguishing the figures of the old testament according to what they were. Solomon and David were Kings of Israel and not “prophets.” They were ordinary men and sinners who will be judged for their sins just like everybody else.

If God had wanted polygamy he would have created Adam, Eve and Shakira. But he only created Adam and Eve. Polygamy was invented by man in defiance of God and 99% of those who participate in it only do so because they cannot control their sexual urges.

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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 2:43pm On Nov 21, 2017
TheLogicalMind:




[b]Please get your facts straight. Abraham was only ever married to one woman at a time. There was never a time in Abraham’s life when he had up to two wives at the same time. After his first wife Sarah passed away because of old age, Abraham married a woman called Keturah. Hagar was not Abraham’s wife, she was simply a surrogate whose only purpose was to provide Abraham with an heir. So Abraham is exempt from your list of polygamists.
As for all the others, such as Solomon, David, Lot, it is only MOOslims who regard them as “prophets.” Your illiterate “prophet” Muhammad had a hard time distinguishing the figures of the old testament according to what they were. Solomon and David were Kings of Israel and not “prophets.” They were ordinary men and sinners who will be judged for their sins just like everybody else.

If God had wanted polygamy he would have created Adam, Eve and Shakira. But he only created Adam and Eve. Polygamy was invented by man in defiance of God and 99% of those who participate in it only do so because they cannot control their sexual urges.

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Is this all your answer to these questions? I think we need more Explanations! Jesus was also called son of David but u said David is an ordinary sinner! Solomon was a person of immense wisdom but he is a ordinary sinner. What of Moses? Joshua? Noah? Jacob? I repeat the Question.

TheLogicalMind Please answer this logically!

Why did God Allow Noah to be a drunkard in the Bible?

Why did God in the Bible saved Lot, killed his wife and later allow Lot's daughters to sleep with their father? Is it that God did not know the future or he just wish to permit incest?

On Marriage and wives

Why did God say "be fruitful and Multiply"?

Why did the Gods of the Bible allow Abraham the father of faith to have more than one wife!

Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines.

David had multiple wives. Most Popular Prophets from the old testament had multiple wives. why?

And never anywhere does the Bible forbid marriage. Jesus and John not marrying is because they were not destined to marry!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 3:00pm On Nov 21, 2017
TheLogicalMind:

Read this and explain logically:

[b]Exodus 21:10

New International Version

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.

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Deuteronomy 21:15

New International Version (NIV)

15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love...
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Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by TheLogicalMind(m): 3:32pm On Nov 21, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
TheLogicalMind:

Read this and explain logically:

[b]Exodus 21:10

New International Version

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.

&

Deuteronomy 21:15

New International Version (NIV)

15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love...
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These verses are not in any way commands that people should engage in polygamy. They are only instructions that those who do choose polygamy should practice it responsibly.

God's true standard for marriage was the one he set with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The first person to practice polygamy in the Bible was Lamech and he is described as a "rude ruffian" Genesis 4:18-24.

If that is the standard your "prophet" follows then no wonder yours is such a messed up religion.

And yes, just in case you didn't understand the first time around, David, Solomon, Abraham, Lot etc were indeed sinners their sins are recorded in the Bible along with their punishment.

Christ has divine origins and he kept himself pure and chaste, and that is why he lived a sinless life. Christians are called upon to follow Christ's example by repenting from sin and living holy lives.

On the other hand, when muslims try to live like their prophet the result is always chaos.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 12:25am On Nov 22, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Starting from where you ended, So did the Prophet now slept with a 6 yr old when clearly you said she was brought to his house by 9 yrs?

I knew you are a big liar! Make research on the age Rebecca was married to Isaac!
Shouldnt you be ashamed that your 54 year old Prophet Muhammad got married to a 6 year old girl still playing with dolls? Dude couldn't wait anymore, so he had sex with her when she clocked 9yrs. Before that, he practiced mufhakatr i.e thighing or rubbing his manhood between her 6yr old thighs.

Which research concerning Rebecca and Isaac do you want me to do other than what's written in the Bible where age was never stated?

Your search for such research clearly shows you are looking for justification for Mohammad's pedophilia. You won't find any.



Rashduct4luv:

On our mother Khadijah,

A gigolo is a man who is being paid money for sexual relationship!

how can a woman be a gigolo? As i told you before, you lack manners and you don't even know the meaning of what you are saying!
Is it a sin for an older woman to marry a younger man?
A 25yr old against a 40yr old?

Perhaps, he wanted her for her riches. Thanks for letting me know that Mohammad was the gigolo.



Rashduct4luv:

Yes i believe the Bible contains words ascribed to God, words of men, words of wisdom, words of fools, obscene words, pornography, etc.
Believe whatever

Rashduct4luv:

Did the Bible clearly state that Mary saw the angel in their true form?

She saw angel Gabriel. What true form again? Are angels expected to look scary to humans they are sent a message to? Only demons look scary. Angels appear peaceful and kind, not the type that strangles one's neck like Mohammad experienced.

I see. You are looking for ways to liken Mohammad's demonic encounter so as to say it was like that with others.
Rashduct4luv:


Well, Qur'an states that he appeared in a man's form and this i believe.
Where is it written in the lying Quran?

Moreover, don't you count yourself silly to believe the account of a book written 700years after the events were record by another whose account it contradicts?


Rashduct4luv:

You made a claim Jesus told his disciples that he was tempted by Satan but you cant extrapolate that Muhammad may have told his followers too about his meetings with the angel!

I shake head for you!

Mohammad told waraqah and khadija that he met an entity whose name he didn't know. How could he gave bothered about a name when the entity almost killed him by strangling his neck and hitting him against the wall?

Now, let's assume that Mohammad told his terrorists disciples. A man who gave a wrong advice to farmers, did no miracles and was a terrorists can hardly be believe if he said he encountered an angel .

But a man who raised the dead, healed the sick, Gabe sight to the blind and resurrected can never be doubted about an encounter with Satan
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:08am On Nov 22, 2017
TheLogicalMind:


These verses are not in any way commands that people should engage in polygamy. They are only instructions that those who do choose polygamy should practice it responsibly.

God's true standard for marriage was the one he set with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The first person to practice polygamy in the Bible was Lamech and he is described as a "rude ruffian" Genesis 4:18-24.

If that is the standard your "prophet" follows then no wonder yours is such a messed up religion.

And yes, just in case you didn't understand the first time around, David, Solomon, Abraham, Lot etc were indeed sinners their sins are recorded in the Bible along with their punishment.

Christ has divine origins and he kept himself pure and chaste, and that is why he lived a sinless life. Christians are called upon to follow Christ's example by repenting from sin and living holy lives.

On the other hand, when muslims try to live like their prophet the result is always chaos.


In your previous post, u said" If God had wanted polygamy he would have created Adam, Eve and Shakira. But he only created Adam and Eve. Polygamy was invented by man in defiance of God..."

Now you are changing your opinion when you see clear verses you were not aware of.

On the question of sin...your scripture says ''all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." And i can see you have started abusing. I thought you would be logical in your approach.

Anyways i have proved that polygamy is permitted according to your Bible!

Have a good time.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:25am On Nov 22, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Shouldnt you be ashamed that your 54 year old Prophet Muhammad got married to a 6 year old girl still playing with dolls? Dude couldn't wait anymore, so he had sex with her when she clocked 9yrs. Before that, he practiced mufhakatr i.e thighing or rubbing his manhood between her 6yr old thighs.

Which research concerning Rebecca and Isaac do you want me to do other than what's written in the Bible where age was never stated?

Your search for such research clearly shows you are looking for justification for Mohammad's pedophilia. You won't find any.



A 25yr old against a 40yr old?

Perhaps, he wanted her for her riches. Thanks for letting me know that Mohammad was the gigolo.




Believe whatever



She saw angel Gabriel. What true form again? Are angels expected to look scary to humans they are sent a message to? Only demons look scary. Angels appear peaceful and kind, not the type that strangles one's neck like Mohammad experienced.

I see. You are looking for ways to liken Mohammad's demonic encounter so as to say it was like that with others.
Where is it written in the lying Quran?

Moreover, don't you count yourself silly to believe the account of a book written 700years after the events were record by another whose account it contradicts?


Mohammad told waraqah and khadija that he met an entity whose name he didn't know. How could he gave bothered about a name when the entity almost killed him by strangling his neck and hitting him against the wall?

Now, let's assume that Mohammad told his terrorists disciples. A man who gave a wrong advice to farmers, did no miracles and was a terrorists can hardly be believe if he said he encountered an angel .

But a man who raised the dead, healed the sick, Gabe sight to the blind and resurrected can never be doubted about an encounter with Satan

It's in you to abuse and lie! You already called your Dad a gigolo as a woman can not be a gigolo.

You still can not understand that miracles only can not make one a son of God. And how many sons does God have?

I thought you were a researcher before not knowing you were just a petty liar? You lied that the Prophet ejaculated on a 6yr old. where is the proof? May you perish as the Bible curses the liars. May all the curses on the liars be on you as you lie.

You just keep twisting and distorting facts to suit your claims!

If a western male of 25 yrs marries a 40 yr old lady, it's love. But since it's our Prophet that you hate with passion, he is a gigolo.
This shows the kind of family you came from. No pure love exist.

And the gigolo you named comes from your family.

See the Christlike Modern day Christians, May Allah move me far from this kind!
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by alBHAGDADI: 8:52am On Nov 22, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


It's in you to abuse and lie! You already called your Dad a gigolo as a woman can not be a gigolo.

You still can not understand that miracles only can not make one a son of God. And how many sons does God have?

I thought you were a researcher before not knowing you were just a petty liar? You lied that the Prophet ejaculated on a 6yr old. where is the proof? May you perish as the Bible curses the liars. May all the curses on the liars be on you as you lie.

You just keep twisting and distorting facts to suit your claims!

If a western male of 25 yrs marries a 40 yr old lady, it's love. But since it's our Prophet that you hate with passion, he is a gigolo.
This shows the kind of family you came from. No pure love exist.

And the gigolo you named comes from your family.

See the Christlike Modern day Christians, May Allah move me far from this kind!

Look, you have no argument here. All you've been doing is divert attention away from your prophet's pedophilia by insulting me.
Re: Muhammad's Opinions:were They Divine Revelations From Allah?� by analize701: 9:48am On Nov 22, 2017
Rashduct4luv:

And we do not deny that our Prophet was mortal and a human being just like other Prophets/Messengers before him (like Abraham, Noah, Jesus and others Peace be upon them all). Prophets may commit minor sins but never major sins!

Only Allah is far from making mistakes and immortal!

Pls mention the mistakes of these other Prophets and Messengers (Abraham, Noah, and Jesus) who came before Muhammed.

And which minor sins did Abraham or Jesus commit?

would you say pedophilia, rape, murder, armed robbery/stealing, lying and sexual immorality are minor sins?

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