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Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by deomelo: 2:27pm On Dec 31, 2017
Fawklicant:


Unfortunately the gravity of burning national issues is lost on you as you can't see beyond party affiliations hence your always skewered albeit myopic defence of even the most incredulous notions. I don't have the time now to start adult education with you. You can crawl back into your hole now.

I asked you simple question.

Who did we put in office to address the burning national issues? Me, you or APC/PDP?


And when the so called burning national issues are not addressed, who do you hold accountable? Me, you or APC/PDP?

Answer my question or shut up
Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by Lush100(m): 3:33pm On Dec 31, 2017
LordAdam16:


Anyone who didn't know Buhari will not perform better than GEJ in 2015 deserves to have uninterrupted adult supervision. The person is the very definition of d*mb!

If in 2019, the choice for example is between Buhari and Atiku. A very simple question to decide who to vote for is, which of these two would I choose to run my business and why?

If for some reason you think both people don't hit the mark, there's an option to take, don't support or vote anyone. YES. That's an option.

I have more respect for people who decided not to vote in 2015 than those who decided to vote Buhari because "although Buhari was not an option, GEJ was also not an option." STUPID*TY.

2011: GEJ-22M, GMB-12M
2015: GEJ-12M, GMB-15M

That's why I laugh at people who say they can simply remove GMB like they "removed" GEJ.

GMB has 12M assured voters who would ALWAYS vote for him, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE DOES. Even if he sells Nigeria on eBay, not one of those voters would vote anyone else in 2019.

GMB with his power of incumbency and rigging only has to frustrate the politics of any of his challengers. Just wait until the tail end of 2018. All these leeway everyone has given him, where he reinstates a criminal and everyone is scared to call his name; there's fuel scarcity and reintroduction of fuel subsidy and everyone is scared to call his name although he is the Minister of Petroleum. He'd double down on it to crush the politics of his opponents, and nothing will happen.

They've already gagged the media. Phone-ins are all screened. It is only online that there's so much Buhari apathy. Offline, the radio and tv programs that used to spur reactions have all been cut to size.

Buhari losing in 2019 would be much more difficult than GEJ losing in 2015.

-Lord

and people will still make mistake either to vote pmb or atiku ...also someone not voting does not negate the effect of another voting,
respect or perspective therefore doesn't count only action,
therefore voting is key & nothing is impossible,

my submission
Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by princemartinsG(m): 3:56pm On Dec 31, 2017
Of what use has been our long-lined grammars and foreign. phonetics when our certificates, degrees and exalted educational pedigrees has not helped to make our society better and deliver true home grown development to the Nigerian masses.

Education is of less profit when it cannot be used to transform and better the lots of the people.

VOTE DEBO MARTINS
VOTE PROACTIVE NATIVE INTELLIGENCE
Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by LordAdam16: 4:12pm On Dec 31, 2017
Lush100:


and people will still make mistake either to vote pmb or atiku ...also someone not voting does not negate the effect of another voting,
respect or perspective therefore doesn't count only action,
therefore voting is key & nothing is impossible,

my submission

Voting is not key.

It is not a crime to not vote.

You absolve yourself of all blames when you don't support or vote for anyone. And then you can criticize constructively regardless of whose axe is gored. And you have little or no sentimentality for anyone because you stood under the sun to vote him/her.

Part of the reason why Buhari is doing sh*t and getting away with it is because of how loudly the media and most vocal people draped him as the savior of Nigeria. No matter how you spin it, it is difficult to continually criticize someone you voted for.

And that brings me full-circle to my main point. How is it that the same people who voted for GEJ and then started lampooning him for everything 9 months later with the Occupy Nigeria protest are the same people who voted for PMB and are now giving excuses of why they're in their turtle shell more than 2 years later?

HATE, HYPOCRISY, DOUBLE-STANDARD!

-Lord

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Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by LordAdam16: 4:13pm On Dec 31, 2017
deomelo:
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lmao.....this joker said GEJ wasn't incompetent.... grin

Even all your mindless and thoughtless essays are a reflection of your own mental incompetence..

https://www.nairaland.com/4262159/okonjo-iweala-said-governors-not-jonathan

Okonjo-Iweala: I Said Governors, NOT Jonathan, Lacked The Political Will To Save

See how st*pid you always appear to be?

-Lord

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Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by bigass(f): 7:58pm On Dec 31, 2017
LordAdam16:




A. Ethno-religious reasons. The bulk of his antagonists fell in this group. Over 60%.
B. Overblown issues with his administration.

Sanusi said $20b was stolen. He later reduced it to $10b. Later to $2-5b. Till date, and with an opposition government in place, they've not been able to trace the money.

The opposition claimed he was promulgating subsidy fraud. Yet, when in his wisdom he decided to remove it in 2012, they said over their dead bodies. Later when the same marketers held the nation to ransom for fear of not receiving payments, they quickly passed the blame to him.

Buhari is on record for saying they've got nothing on Diezani. Yet she was so villified. After over half a dozen independent audits since 2015, no one can say this is the exact amount Diezani stole.

The same people who decried the launch of the offensive against Boko Haram and establishing emergency rule in Northern states were the same people saying GEJ was lacking in will to fight the group.

The same people who lampooned all governmental efforts to negotiate the release of Chibok girls are the same people celebrating the release today.

He said stealing was not corruption. Illiterates took that as a smoking gun to mean his endorsement of corruption. Yet the ICPC chief, officer in charge one of the leading anti-corruption LEA, reiterated the same thing. It is on record.

For every Morro that was given a clean bill of health, there was a Stella Odua, Yakubu, and the invisible saint Maina that were deposed. And everyone seems to forget that the Immigration Recruitment Exercise was contracted out to a private firm. And that after the incident, GEJ ordered automatic employment for affected families. He also ordered immediate return of all the funds collected from the applicants. It is all on record.

For every Alams, there was an Ibori.

They said he gave the oil pipelines to criminals and they didn't suggest a viable alternative. NSCDC has had minimal effect on vandalism. And they say he courted criminals, yet Henry Okah is still in a SA jail, MEND is still a shadow of its former self, and he hunted and killed John Togo.

I could keep it flowing like I was writing a novel. The bottom line is that those who hated him in 2015 had already started hating him in 2011. Everything was fair to use against him, from unsubstantiated allegations to pure conjectures. And it became a mortal crime to say anything about his achievements. They were not noteworthy and nonexistent. He was simply a reincarnation of the DEVIL himself.



Yes, and the same people who supported him in 2011, in less than 9 months after he was sworn in (January 2012) decided to Occupy Nigeria because he removed fuel subsidy.

What sort of stup*d support is that?

Curiously, it was after Occupy Nigeria, that subsidy payments ballooned to 25-50% our budget annually.

The same people who claimed to have supported him in 2011 were blind to the improvements that were happening under him. They called it paper achievements. Today, they are clamoring for those same paper achievements.

Things like the containment of Ebola that seemed so easy under the man were all dismissed because they claimed they wanted a Singapore.

A person who voted for GEJ in 2011 and voted for Buhari in 2015 is worse than someone who voted Buhari in 2011 and voted for Buhari in 2015. The former has a damaged cerebrum. The latter doesn't have one.

An example of someone who supported GEJ in 2011 and didn't in 2015 is Ameachi. Yet in 2015, it is on record that Ameachi confessed to not knowing that trains operated in Nigeria. It is on record.



This is the meaning of incompetence:

"not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully."

That cannot be said of GEJ. GEJ was not incompetent. You could argue that he didn't do enough, but anyone with a shroud of decency and objectivity can actually point to reasons why.

Nigeria's budget in each of GEJ's 5 years was N4 trillion. We used an average of N1.2 trillion for subsidy. He used N1.8 trillion plus for ONLY salaries. He was left to use N1 trillion for the fight against Boko Haram (using dispirited troops, a defense hierarchy inundated with saboteurs, and a ravaged region that didn't support the war); infrastructure; boost the economy; pay other recurrent overheads, such as funding the universities, hospitals, research institutes and the likes; as well as other expenditures too numerous to mention.

Yet he was able to build more universities, expand the transmission and generating electrical capacity, rehabilitate tens of thousands of kilometers of road, revitalize the rail sector, rapidly increase our food sufficiency capability thanks to the agricultural revolutions, grow our economy by an average of 6% and reduce inflation rate; amongst several other achievements.

Anyone who says GEJ is incompetent is M*D! Very M*D!

-Lord

It was a mistake to argue with you. You are deluded and not in tune with reality. In your words nothing is wrong with Jonathan and was the best thing that could have happened to Nigeria.
GEJ was a disaster. That's why he was booted out of office.
Buhari... He is a disaster and he will be booted out of office too.

Stop using Buhari's failure to measure GEJ performance. Against good standard both of them are failures.

Governance is about us,Nigerians, and not about GEJ and PMB.
For almost 20years after democracy, what do we have to show for it.NOTHING

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Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by LordAdam16: 10:55pm On Dec 31, 2017
bigass:


It was a mistake to argue with you. You are deluded and not in tune with reality. In your words nothing is wrong with Jonathan and was the best thing that could have happened to Nigeria.
GEJ was a disaster. That's why he was booted out of office.
Buhari... He is a disaster and he will be booted out of office too.

Stop using Buhari's failure to measure GEJ performance. Against good standard both of them are failures.

Governance is about us,Nigerians, and not about GEJ and PMB.
For almost 20years after democracy, what do we have to show for it.NOTHING

I have posted facts there.

Now can you rebut anything I stated above with facts?

No wonder you were deceived to vote for Buhari in 2015. Facts are there, freely available, yet you wouldn't do yourself and your descendants a favor to read them.

And if you say we have nothing to show for almost 20 years of democracy, then you should migrate to North Korea. Clearly, you were either born in the 2000s or you've been living under a rock. In virtually all indices, we were better off in 2015 than we were in 1999. ALL INDICES.

If that's the definition of NOTHING to you, you should tear up your PVC. You're doing great disservice to the nation by casting a vote.

Keep waiting for that Messiah that would transform Nigeria to Singapore in one tenure. Or that would magically end corruption in one fell swoop under this current system.

Since 1999, we've been having better leaders in continued succession. OBJ was better than all the previous dictators joined together, even tho' he had his faults. Yar'Adua was better than OBJ, despite his faults. GEJ was better than Yar'Adua and OBJ, despite his faults. Then people like you who are intellectually handicapped decided to reverse the trend and go pick a dinosaur.

For example, OBJ declared that election was a do-or-die affair. Yar'Adua came and acknowledged that the election that brought him in was not free and fair. GEJ declared that his ambition was not worth the blood of any Nigerian. Then you guys went to vote someone who said he'd soak dogs and baboons in blood.

And you think you're normal upstairs. Clap for yourself!

-Lord

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Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by bigass(f): 11:11pm On Dec 31, 2017
LordAdam16:


I have posted facts there.

Now can you rebut anything I stated above with facts?

No wonder you were deceived to vote for Buhari in 2015. Facts are there, freely available, yet you wouldn't do yourself and your descendants a favor to read them.

And if you say we have nothing to show for almost 20 years of democracy, then you should migrate to North Korea. Clearly, you were either born in the 2000s or you've been living under a rock. In virtually all indices, we were better off in 2015 than we were in 1999. ALL INDICES.

If that's the definition of NOTHING to you, you should tear up your PVC. You're doing great disservice to the nation by casting a vote.

Keep waiting for that Messiah that would transform Nigeria to Singapore in one tenure. Or that would magically end corruption in one fell swoop under this current system.

Since 1999, we've been having better leaders in continued succession. OBJ was better than all the previous dictators joined together, even tho' he had his faults. Yar'Adua was better than OBJ, despite his faults. GEJ was better than Yar'Adua and OBJ, despite his faults. Then people like you who are intellectually handicapped decided to reverse the trend and go pick a dinosaur.

For example, OBJ declared that election was a do-or-die affair. Yar'Adua came and acknowledged that the election that brought him in was not free and fair. GEJ declared that his ambition was not worth the blood of any Nigerian. Then you guys went to vote someone who said he'd soak dogs and baboons in blood.

And you think you're normal upstairs. Clap for yourself!

-Lord

Ok. I have heard you GEJ was the best president. OK HE was even flawless.
He met a reserve of $67B but left $29B even with Oil selling at more than $110 bbl.
Crude oil theft was at its highest in his regime.
GEJ was mistake that should have never happened.
PMB is also mistake that's should not happen.

We cant become Singapore in a term but we are not on track at all.
We can never get it right till the end of this world.
Re: Wole Soyinka speaks on Blame Passing and actions of Socia Media Automated Mumus by LordAdam16: 1:08am On Jan 01, 2018
bigass:


Ok. I have heard you GEJ was the best president. OK HE was even flawless.
He met a reserve of $67B but left $29B even with Oil selling at more than $110 bbl.
Crude oil theft was at its highest in his regime.
GEJ was mistake that should have never happened.
PMB is also mistake that's should not happen.

We cant become Singapore in a term but we are not on track at all.
We can never get it right till the end of this world.


Here's a paragraph from my reply:

"Since 1999, we've been having better leaders in continued succession. OBJ was better than all the previous dictators joined together, even tho' he had his faults. Yar'Adua was better than OBJ, despite his faults. GEJ was better than Yar'Adua and OBJ, despite his faults. Then people like you who are intellectually handicapped decided to reverse the trend and go pick a dinosaur."

Since you evidently have issues with comprehension.

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GEJ did not meet a reserve of $67B. When he was made the President due to doctrine of necessity in Q1 2010, reserves was less than $43B. When he left, it was at $29B. But you did not note that as at October 2014, it was at $37B. And the CBN used $5B between October 2014 and January 2015 to stabilize the naira rate, as the oil price crashed harder.

More importantly, you do not note that under GEJ, when revenue increased, the reserves increased.

Look at the chart below:



Link: https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/foreign-exchange-reserves

Look at how at the height of the oil boom, the reserves almost hit $50B.

And if you're too frail mentally to know why reserves fell when revenue did, it's because under GEJ infrastructural and other expenditures were up. He wasn't just sitting on petro dollars not knowing what to do with it. He used it and his achievements speak for him.

You need to use your brain more often and read information that's freely available.

________________________________

There is no government in Nigeria that is immune to crude oil theft. Even today it's still ongoing.

In fact, here's a Sahara Reporters article that shows that crude oil theft is as high today as it was under GEJ. http://saharareporters.com/2017/09/26/nnpc-iocs-and-crude-oil-theft-curiously-nobody-talking-about-it-anymore-ifeanyi-izeze

And it interestingly details the conspiracy of silence about the ongoing crude oil theft. And gives the big reveal of perhaps the biggest reason for the crude oil theft under GEJ, which Diezani helped unravel thanks to the audit by a contracted firm.

Here's the highlight:

The company, Molecular Power System, a due diligence company, was engaged to provide technical data (records of crude oil and liquefied natural gas lifting in Nigeria as obtained from the NNPC, and landing certificates at global destinations) to verify possibilities of non-declaration to the federal government by multinational companies.

Investigations undertaken by this consortium, established as suspected, that crude oil declared to have been exported from Nigeria between January 2011 and December 2014 was less than what was declared to have been imported into the United States of America, a country that maintains detailed records and has stricter compliance.

Cumulative missing revenue (as estimated) due Nigeria as a direct result of this non declaration of shipments made between 2011 and 2014 to buyers in US alone was valued at $12,722,600.327 ($12 billion plus).

As unraveled and reported, “The data gathering of shipment to the USA for the period 2011 to December 2014 through critical NNPC data and the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, pre-shipment inspection report shows undeclared crude oil shortfalls of 57,830,000 MT of Nigerian crude oil, translating to well over $12 billion to the USA, also over $3billion to China, and $839,522,600 to Norway. These were conclusively ascertained by buyers’ bill of lading, arrival dates, destination ports, quantity of crude oil and other documented information.

Also, a liquefied natural gas shortfall of 727,460 metric tonnes from shipments to seven countries estimated at over $461 million was established. The revenue loss, was traced to cargoes at each destination port of entry, and was established as undeclared cargo. The tracing was found in 51 countries where Nigerian LNG was exported but undeclared, with the US again being the largest receiver.

The Nigerian subsidiaries of the Anglo-Dutch Shell, Italian ENI (Agip) and the American Exxon/Mobil were among the identified major culprits in these dubious transactions.

Again, read and inform yourself. Your brain is not in your head for aesthetic reasons.

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We were on track. Don't be a dimw*t.

In 1999, our debt to GDP ratio was above 63%. In 2014, it was 10% (in 2017, it is 18%).

In 1999, our GDP was $35B. In 2014, our GDP was $568B.

And let's not talk about employment rate, industrialization, infrastructure, and several other indices that are better today than in 1999.

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How will we get it right when dumbitos like you can vote for someone who said he'd stabilize world oil price?

And you think you're smart.

Just look at the nonsense you've been spouting so effortlessly.

Pray tell if you can counter any of the facts I've shared. I'm waiting.

Lazy educated illiterates who can't read. Easily swayed by unsubstantiated hullabaloo.

-Lord

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