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Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by enilove(m): 12:45pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
Kingstanding: Let me say thus again . The enemies I pray against is Satan and his agents of darkness. This was part of my argument. Jesus prayed for his enemies and prayed for Peter and other Apostles but did not pray for Judas Iscariot. Why? Like what the devil is using Islam to do against Christianity and the world at large , are we to continue to pray for Islam to prosper in Nigeria. We can pray and should pray for ordinary Muslims but not Islam itself. You can pray for your enemies but against the evil spirit inside him.You cannot pray for witches and wizards. But other enemies should be prayed for. Why did Peter not pray for Anannais and Sapphira ? Were they not enemies of the gospel which Satan wanted to exploit? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by TheUbermensch: 12:49pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: So you'd rather your neighbour kills you when you have a chance to defend or protect yourself than actually protect yourself? Lol. Since God's protection is sufficient why do you sleep with your door closed? Why do you clamour for the president to engage the security forces to go after killer herdsmen? Isn't it a sin to kill? Won't the soldiers have committed a sin by killing the terrorist herdsmen for killing priests in Benue? Maybe Buhari has exactly like your mindset. Why act when God's protection is enough!? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by Lumig: 12:50pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:rather IGNORANCE is the enemy of Christians |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 12:52pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
CAPSLOCKED: not every situations it's natural my friend, but of course things become complicated when you can't tell the difference |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 12:55pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2: my friend, God has the power to give life and to destroy it, only him can. every disobedient soul will be destroyed |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 12:55pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
Dottore:am not lip servicing any thing. You don't it. When the Spirit of Christ rule your will is no longer your will, but the will of Christ. That is the position am in now. I was writing an exam recently, and there was lot of malpractices which I was involved in, but the Spirit of Christ came into my heart, I stopped writing that exam with four papers left. I don't care if I fail that exam. my brother, when you allow God in your life, you will be doing somethings that naturally you can't do 1 Like |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 12:57pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
walls01: Does that nagate the fact that God has destroyed way more than Satan yet Satan is a devil and God is a saint? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 12:58pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: I need answers to some questions Who is God? Who is Jesus? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 12:59pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:it would be stupid of me to leave my door open. you dont try or test God. But for me, God's protection is enough for me. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by TheUbermensch: 1:01pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: Very well then. I'd mark your username. And remind you anytime you blame Buhari for not taking security matters seriously. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 1:04pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2:God is Gid. The supreme being. The creator of heaven and earth. and every thing you see. And the Lord Jesus Christ His is son. came to earth to die for our sins. and through His death we can receive the eternal life of God, and live above sin |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 1:09pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2: try to understand, God is a judge Satan is not. a country has laws who breaks it is in the danger of the law. a judge passes sentence accordingly. the judge is only termed to be wicked when he passed wrong judgement. God destroys all rebellious souls Satan entice a soul to be rebellious through tricky ways, therefore Satan is responsible for the death of the souls, just like a politician than sponsors thugs for killing purposes |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:11pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: So God is God while Jesus is a son which make him an assistant God. What does Jesus is lord means? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by NembeBoy: 1:12pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
Dis is de dumbest write up I've seen in decades. U're obviously an educated illiterate. U've been taught by fools so far. Try to unlearn and relearn. God bless u!! |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 1:12pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:thank you for this. I met someone recently, and our discussion led to decide that in Nigeria, it is only God that can save us. so I have decided that I may not cast my vote in next year election. we put out trust in this people and they have fail us, so it is time to put our trust in God. so am not believing in the change of any man, only the change of God |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:18pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
walls01: How do you know the souls that are rebellious? God has destroyed virtually many things? Cain killed Abel and God was fine with it and even protected Cain. Fatricide began from here, the very beginning. Cain fvcked his sister and God was also fine with it. Incestation began from the very beginning. The is just few examples which was the beginning, such a God is devilish than whatever Satan is proclaimed to be |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 1:19pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2:I never said Jesus is an assistant God. please let learn like matured people. now Jesus is Lord means, the Lord Jesus is also God. In acts 2: 36 says God has made Jesus Lord and Christ. that means due to the humility and obedience of Jesus by dying on the cross for us, God made Him God like Himself and Christ. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by TheUbermensch: 1:21pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: Lmao. It's nidderings like you that give Christianity a bad image of a religion of thoughtless souls. What's next? You won't work again because God provides? Or you won't sleep with your wife again because God gives children? How about not taking drugs next time you're ill because God heals? Evidently you don't know how much God hates fools. Don't be one in an effort to misinterprete his words. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:22pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: Pls pick a poison rather than changing directions. Initially you said God is God and Jesus is his son Now you are saying God is God but God also made Jesus God because of his humility. Which is which sir? |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 1:25pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2: who told you God was fine with Cain killing Abel? everyone of us will be forgiven of our sins if we truly repent why still alive. every soul not acting in accordance with God can be destroyed anytime hence cases in the Bible. devil did not create man he entice man to sin against God the creator, hence be destroyed. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:30pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
walls01: If he wasn't fine with it, how come God watched Cain kill abel without destroying Cain for it and even went far to protecting him. He protected him to the extent that he fvcked her sister and nothing still happened which means he was fine with whatever Cain did. |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 1:31pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
[quote author=TheUbermensch post=69604666] Lmao. It's nidderings like you that give Christianity a bad image of a religion of thoughtless souls. What's next? You won't work again because God provides? Or you won't sleep with your wife again because God gives children? How about not taking drugs next time you're ill because God heals? Evidently you don't know how muc hates fools. Don't be one in an effort to misinterprete his words. [/quot . I never didn't say I wont work or marry. what I meant was that I wouldn't put my trust in a man, because it will fail. with all the promises of buhari, how many has he fulfill. answer me. give 50 years and continue to believe that he will give 5k to the old folks. that the price of oil will come down or any of his change slogan, nothing will happen. let remain there for life, nothing will happen. YOU continue believing on him to better your situation, but me I will trust only in God. thank you. And please don't insult me |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ahamonyeka(m): 1:36pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
JesusSonOfGod:pray for them to change from their evil way. 2 Likes |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 1:37pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2: God created man has a free moral agent. why he did create man created man to be like him thus cannot interfere with the decisions of man, he only can judge but not interfere, that is why you see all kinds of unbelievable stuffs in life cause everyone is free to do what is in their heart. but he will bring all souls to judgement. incest was part of God plan for man to fill the earth. ones that is accomplished the law came to separate man from animals. in conclusion God forgive Cain hence protected him. God is a forgiving and loving God not willing for any to die but to repent and enjoy grace in fullest |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by delkuf(m): 1:44pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2:you didn't get it. yes Jesus is the son of God. and because He came to earth and died for our sins, without acting with pride or disobeyed God, God now made Him a God and Christ. for to better understand this, let say you have a company and your son is the MD of the company. You now told your son that if he could work and make the company grow to a certain level, you will make him the general overseer of the company both may be here in Nigeria and abroad. And your son attain that height, and you made him the general overseer. DOES that make him not your son any more? You only placed him in a better position. so the fact that God made Jesus doesn't mean He is not His Son. God only placed Jesus in a position that no one can reach. thank you |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:46pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
walls01: Since he doesn't interfere then it's means his servant and innocent can die as much as possible. People can die in churches, hospitals and elsewhere due to one factor or another. Innocent can't easily be killed and nothing happens because God is not interfering. Then those perpetrators would be protected and forgiven like he did to Cain while the dead is dead. That God is confused |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ollah2: 1:50pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
delkuf: In order words, there are two gods in heaven. The God God and the Jesus God. Which means Jesus is lord systematically elevates Jesus to be superior to God because Christians havs never said God is lord. Christians have always prayed in the name of Jesus ONLY Chrisitians always ask if you have given you life to christ and not God Which means Jesus is important to Christianity and their God and not the God God. Mind throwing more light into this sir |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by Melvess(m): 1:51pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
cappinjerry:ignoramus |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by walls01: 1:52pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
ollah2: you still don't understand life. when you see events happening you can't tell why it happened. if you read the Bible you will understand better. their is reward for all things you see good or bad, death is not the end my friend it is judgement time |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by anataala: 2:00pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
The First miracle of Jesus in The Holy Quran The Bible says the first miracle of Jesus, occurred when he was over thirty years old. In John 2:1-10, this miracle when Jesus turned water into wine in a wedding. Jesus made this potent wine that the men have "well drunk." This was not grape juice. It was the same wine that, according to the Bible, enabled the daughters of Lot to seduce their father, Genesis 19:32-33. It was the same wine that the Christian is advised to avoid in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine." The Quran does not mention this alleged miracle to Jesus. On the other hand, in Islam, Jesus′ first miracle occurred when he was a baby. He spoke as an infant. He talked to defend his mother from any devious judgment from her people. Now ask yourself, which version of the first miracle would you choose for Jesus? The Islamic version or the Biblical version? The Christian could read in the Quran everything he wanted to know about Jesus, but in the most noble, elevated and sublime language. A Christian or a Muslim, when reading the above story in the Quran, could not help being moved by it. I personally saw Muslim adults crying in humility when reading or listening to this miraculous story of the birth of Jesus. The second section of Surah Maryam, Surah 19, Ayah 16 to 40, tells the story of the birth of Jesus: 16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. 17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. 18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah." 19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son. 20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" 21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, "that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us": It is a matter (so) decreed." 22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. 23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" 24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee; 25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee. 26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, "I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being"" 27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! 28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" 29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" 30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; 31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; 32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; 33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! 34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. 36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight. 37. But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a Momentous Day! 38. How plainly will they see and hear, the Day that they will appear before Us! but the unjust today are in error manifest! 39. But warn them of the Day of Distress, when the matter will be determined: for (behold,) they are negligent and they do not believe! 40. It is We Who will inherit the earth, and all beings thereon: to Us will they all be returned. The above verses represent the personal side of the experiences of the worshippers of Allah in relation to their families or environment. nathdim: |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by anataala: 2:01pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
The First miracle of Jesus in The Holy Quran The Bible says the first miracle of Jesus, occurred when he was over thirty years old. In John 2:1-10, this miracle when Jesus turned water into wine in a wedding. Jesus made this potent wine that the men have "well drunk." This was not grape juice. It was the same wine that, according to the Bible, enabled the daughters of Lot to seduce their father, Genesis 19:32-33. It was the same wine that the Christian is advised to avoid in Ephesians 5:18 "And be not drunk with wine." The Quran does not mention this alleged miracle to Jesus. On the other hand, in Islam, Jesus′ first miracle occurred when he was a baby. He spoke as an infant. He talked to defend his mother from any devious judgment from her people. Now ask yourself, which version of the first miracle would you choose for Jesus? The Islamic version or the Biblical version? The Christian could read in the Quran everything he wanted to know about Jesus, but in the most noble, elevated and sublime language. A Christian or a Muslim, when reading the above story in the Quran, could not help being moved by it. I personally saw Muslim adults crying in humility when reading or listening to this miraculous story of the birth of Jesus. The second section of Surah Maryam, Surah 19, Ayah 16 to 40, tells the story of the birth of Jesus: 16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. 17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. 18. She said: "I seek refuge from thee to ((Allah)) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah." 19. He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son. 20. She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" 21. He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, "that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us": It is a matter (so) decreed." 22. So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. 23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" 24. But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee; 25. "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: It will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee. 26. "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, say, "I have vowed a fast to ((Allah)) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into not talk with any human being"" 27. At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! 28. "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" 29. But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" 30. He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah. He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; 31. "And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; 32. "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; 33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! 34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. 36. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: Him therefore serve ye: this is a Way that is straight. 37. But the sects differ among themselves: and woe to the unbelievers because of the (coming) Judgment of a Momentous Day! 38. How plainly will they see and hear, the Day that they will appear before Us! but the unjust today are in error manifest! 39. But warn them of the Day of Distress, when the matter will be determined: for (behold,) they are negligent and they do not believe! 40. It is We Who will inherit the earth, and all beings thereon: to Us will they all be returned. The above verses represent the personal side of the experiences of the worshippers of Allah in relation to their families or environment. delkuf: |
Re: What We Should Do To Our Enemies As Christians.. by ladyF(f): 2:04pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
All this one na story. Me, I am not Jesus! |
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