thesicilian:

There's no point for this rigmarole. Jesus expressly spoke against vengeance and self defense in Matthew 5:38 - 40 [
For Christians, the word of the Lord supercedes every other law.

Dfire:
So when he whipped those men in the synagogue it's called what?

kokosin:
wait first...wetin u mean?....so make we stand make dem kill us abi?....even d Israelites hold arrow for hand dey build Jerusalem fence in case yawa wan gass....

imstrong1:
but there is no any other cheek to turn to.. remember the same christ destroyed the temple when it was use wrongly.. If all Christians are killed God forbid, who will serve God?

thesicilian:

I'm not interested in the Constitution or penal code.
Show me where self defense is preached in the Bible by Jesus Christ

McINoWell:

where did your brain go to??
abi you wrote that becus it was the shortest statement for you to write in other to be the first to comment.

teamsynergy:


clap for your self.. when next you see armed Fulani or boko boys running toward you, please stay calm.....

Pascal181:

I pray u be d next to be visited by buhari herdsmen then u will get some sense

porka:


Luke 11:21-22

21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own mansion, his property is safe.”

22 "But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor in which the man trusted and divides up his plunder."


Luke 22: 35-38

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

daveP:
the two swords that He told the disciples to carry in case the arrest contingent drew blood in the garden of Gethsemane? How about that?

mrsaintman:
.....i pray that this fulanie helds men visit you....olodo

smileyoo:
must jesus tell a grown-up man like you, the first law of life which is self-preservation. some knowledge ought not to be taught for you to know it, because its natural for you to acquire it, once you attain the age of reasoning. the bible says the goods of a strongman is safe until a stronger man over powered him, then the goods can be plundered. is that not an act of warfare? or do you prefer your goods to be plundered, or your life wasted if you can stop it? indeed some christains 're really confused? for me i 'll prefer to fight to defend my life and my belief.

thesicilian:

I'm not interested in the Constitution or penal code.
Show me where self defense is preached in the Bible by Jesus Christ

Luke 22:36

BBE And he said to them, But now, he who has a money-bag, or a bag for food, let him take it: and he who has not, let him give his coat for money and get a sword.

EasyEnglish ‘Now it is different’, he said. ‘If you have a purse or bag, take it with you. If you do not have a long sharp knife, sell your coat. Use the money to buy a knife.

ISV Then he told them, “But now whoever has a wallet must take it along, and his traveling bag, too. And the one who has no sword must sell his coat and buy one.

KJVLite Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

NET He said to them, “But now, the one who has a money bag must take it, and likewise a traveler’s bag too. And the one who has no sword must sell his cloak and buy one.

NHEB Then he said to them, “But now, whoever has a money bag must i take it, and likewise a pack. Whoever has none, must sell his cloak, and buy a sword.

WEB Then he said to them, “But now, whoever has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet. Whoever has none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword

thesicilian:

And shortly after when one of the disciples used that sword for the so called self defense what did Jesus say?

He cautioned the disciple to put the sword back in it's shealth, for all who live by the sword must die by the sword (Matthew 26:51-52).

It is always better to read in context and not just pick up verses in isolation.

PROPHETmichael:

Why did he tell them to sell their stuffs and buy sword?

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Is that not self defense?

thesicilian:

I'm not interested in the Constitution or penal code.
Show me where self defense is preached in the Bible by Jesus Christ

laudate:
Thank you!

thesicilian:

I live in Lagos. What will I be looking for in benue?

porka:
Luke 11:21-22

21 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own mansion, his property is safe.”

22 But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor in which the man trusted and divides up his plunder.


Luke 22: 35-38

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

thesicilian:

What did they do with the swords? You forgot to mention that He specifically prevented them from using it for self defense (Matthew 26: 51-52)

thesicilian:

The first and greatest law is Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind Matthew 22: 37
I'll prefer to have the Lord fight for me.

thesicilian:

They were not used for fighting.

laudate:


May God increase the wisdom He has deposited in your life!

thesicilian:
Jesus did not preach self defense.

obailala:
Only a fool will stand, fold his arms, and have himself and his family being slaughtered by animals.

Jesus Christ never asked Christians to be fools...

thesicilian:

Pursuing marketers out of your father's house is not the same as self defense.

tartar9:
Yes it's everyone's right,but when xtians talk of self defense they mean a different thing.It isn't the usual fending off an attack but rather,out of sheer cowardice,cowing in the face of an attack.Where their "self defense" comes in is where those who could escape the attack or the injured or the deceased kindred launching an attack based on a "guilt by association",were hinged on ethnicity or religion,or whatever link however remote to their attacker,innocent people,most preferably defenceless children,the aged and women are gruesomely massacred by them,with cheers from their fellow xtians here on nairaland.
Meanwhile,their real attackers are currently safe somewhere else preparing for a second foray.And then the cycle repeats itself.

This sort of "guilt by association" is something ubiquitous and has been impacted to them from their bible to the point of genocides.In fact their entire religion is founded upon this most evil concept where the entirety of humanity is equally responsible for the sin of one man.You also keep hearing of things like generational curses and their daddy g.o's pronouncing curses on yet unborn children.Notice again how they celebrated buhari's son misfortune.

In summary,xtians have a very grotesque concept of what justice is.When they talk of self-defense,the above is what they just mean.